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Lil' Lavery 23-04-2012 00:18

Re: Two wides vs Two longs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slijin (Post 1161737)
True.

Has there been a triple in-game with 2 longs and all 3 robots on the surface of the bridge? (sorry 1501!)

Michigan State Championship
GTR-East
San Diego
New York (by wording but not by spirit of your question)

mikemat 23-04-2012 00:23

Re: Two wides vs Two longs
 
MSC Finals 1 had 2054 and 548 (both long) on the ends of a triple

lemiant 23-04-2012 00:28

Re: Two wides vs Two longs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery (Post 1161742)
Michigan State Championship
GTR-East
San Diego
New York (by wording but not by spirit of your question)

GTR East doesn't count unless you're considering teams with swerve drive long.
I believe you were referring to:

4307 (Square)
1075 (Swerve, went up in wide orientation)
548 (Long, with weight shift)

EricH 23-04-2012 01:26

Re: Two wides vs Two longs
 
Anybody remember what the Portland #8 alliance was in terms of long and wide? I want to say 2 long, 1 not sure, but I'm not sure on any of them.

Thad House 23-04-2012 01:31

Re: Two wides vs Two longs
 
Portland was 1 long and 2 wide. 1 of the wide bots was really short, and one was a fairly full size wide bot.

Kpchem 23-04-2012 01:39

Re: Two wides vs Two longs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sst.thad (Post 1161767)
Portland was 1 long and 2 wide. 1 of the wide bots was really short, and one was a fairly full size wide bot.

Yeah. 3711 was the alliance captain as a long bot. They selected my old team 360, a full-size wide bot, and then immediately selected 956, an extremely-short wide bot.

Hawiian Cadder 23-04-2012 03:24

Re: Two wides vs Two longs
 
I think that it is more likely that the top alliance will consist of 2 of the greatest tele-op scoring machines and an excellent defensive robot. At the highest level 2 robots can score as effectively as 3, and I would bet that the 3rd robot on the winning alliance is going to make it happen by preventing ANY balancing for the loosing (2nd place) alliance.

Bjenks548 23-04-2012 15:49

Re: Two wides vs Two longs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lemiant (Post 1161748)
GTR East doesn't count unless you're considering teams with swerve drive long.
I believe you were referring to:

4307 (Square)
1075 (Swerve, went up in wide orientation)
548 (Long, with weight shift)

I think 4307 was slightly long but not close to max dimentions. Also if it does count we've been apart of 2 of these (MSC).

372 lives on 27-04-2012 01:32

Re: Two wides vs Two longs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kpchem (Post 1161769)
Yeah. 3711 was the alliance captain as a long bot. They selected my old team 360, a full-size wide bot, and then immediately selected 956, an extremely-short wide bot.

You forgot to mention... 360 has 6 wheel drive and can hang over 1/3 of their bot off the bridge as can 3711...


Also at Seattle I saw both these teams practice triples. 3711 was with a wide and long and from watching them and some other alliances$@# I highly doubt many teams will succeed at triples with 2 longs.
On the other hand 360 practiced with 2 very good short bots (with stingers) who balanced very easily. The bots where very equal in weight so the bridge balanced immediately without assistance.

All of cd is talking about balancing with long bots, yeah it's possible but it is defiantly slower then three short bots....


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