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2012 IRI – Indiana Robotics Invitational –

Dates – July 20-21, 2012
Lawrence North High School, Indianapolis, IN
Hosted by Teams 45, 234 and 1024

Entry Fee - $700
Includes event, dinner, entertainment
Voluntary IRI Teams Scholarship donations accepted
Paypal option for Payment
2011 Winning Alliance = Automatic Entry and No Entry Fee

Invitations to 72 Teams

Key Dates -
May 2 - Applications open
May 9 - Applications close
May 15 - Invitations List Released, followed by Webcast discussion / follow-up
June 4 - Team Commitment Required
June 18 – Full payment due

Application Changes –

You can and are encouraged to include –
• What was your best performance this year?
• Are there any special circumstances we need to know about?
• You can link to a Compilation video or specific Match video

You can submit “support” for other teams -
• Can be an email, video, poem, photo, etc.
• Cannot be for your own team
• Submission must contain name, team and contact information for the team submitting the info and should explain why you think the team / robot should be considered.

Event Special Activities
• IRI Silent Auction
• IRI Shooting Competition Fundraiser (Pros vs. the Robots)
• Driver / Operator Skills Challenge

Friday Night
• Team Dinner (grilled chicken, mac & cheese, salad, deserts)
• Dean Simmons and the Kamens - Performance
• Special Entertainment – To Be Announced!

Rules – Changes from 2012 FIRST Game
• Draft Order is 1-8, 1-8, 8-1 (4 team alliances)
• Teams Allowed +5 pounds (Weigh In TBD)
• No Kinect (Due to Space Constraints)
• Other Changes Being Considered – None Decided

Other Information Coming
• Scholarships
• Hotels and Special Pricing
• Volunteer Sign Up
• Other Rule Changes

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I hope we didn't kill the talent show last year!

More so than any year before, I'm banging the drum for 2815 to apply (and we might be organized enough in the summer to do it). Short of Einstein Field, we know the most likely place to find The Man in FRC is in Indianapolis. (Growing up an hour and a half from Charlotte, we know that to be the man...) But first we'll have to firm up that resumé this week in St. Louis.

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This is cool, was this around previous years?

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No, this is new for 2012.

No Talent Show this year.
Something diferent for 2012. :)

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Thanks for the information. I'll get our kids working on the application and a new video right away.

If selected we also have a set of items we'd like to donate for the silent auction.
I'm sure people can guess what that would be coming from us.

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Do you need team t-shirts for quilt? If yes, where do we mail them if we don't see you at champs.

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I'm glad it's around this year. I've got 3 teams in mind who will receive my support, if any apply. Thanks to the organizers for allowing this!

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I hope KRUNCH goes this year! I would love to see us go! Hopefully, I'll be in Cincinnati so I only have to drive 5 hours to get over there! EEEEEEEEK! So excited!

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All of your non-colson wheels?

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Glad to see the kinect go... IMHO it was a complete waste of space...

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Close. Muffin fans actually.

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Any information on shipping for West Coast teams. I remember in years past Scott at then BAX Global was very helpful in lowering shipping cost for west coast teams. Do we have any arrangement this year or are we on our own?

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How many loops around I275 and I465 are you planning on taking?

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Suggestion: Replay the 2012 FRC Einstein semifinals and Finals matches.

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with a working field.

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Agreed

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I want to see the FiM and MAR champs play off. I vote not having the mentor match to give these 6 teams two more matches across lunch.

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When will we find out the time of the webcast on May 15th?

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What do we need to include in the application?

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I don't want to see an Einstein replay unless all the teams involved wholeheartedly agree to it.

I would like to see the MAR champions face the FiM champions though as an exhibition.

-Nick

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At this point I think the one rule that IRI should change is [R52].

EDIT: And/or [R55]

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Agreed. No good can come of this. It's not worth the collateral damagae it will cause.

This would be a fun way to earn bragging rights between districts.

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Jared, would you like to expand on that statement?

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I agree, and IRI is all about the bragging rights!

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I would like to see nothing done that reduces the number of matches or competitive value for non district winners, i.e. the majority of teams in attendance. If the exhibition(s) are held during a time that would not otherwise be used for something beneficial to teams (including the alliance TRIPLE BALANCE PRACTICE that FIRST failed to provide for all CMP alliances), then I would have no problem with them.

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While i do want to know what could have been, i don't think this is a good idea... While the factor that played into the finals more then most seemed to be the field issues, there are too many other factors to take into account to replay this. Any of the teams had the ability to win Einstein, and what happened happened. There is no reason to try and replay this, because it would do nothing but cause more problems.

I'm as upset as anyone on how much was sucked out of Einstein because of the problems, but that doesn't mean it needs to be redone.

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Agreed 100%

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Also agreed.

Everyone who saw 118 sit there saw what happened to our #1 alliance in Hartford in the 2nd & 3rd game of semis. After a while we simply had to accept the outcome. We could not possibly claim that we were "supposed to win" or that "we would have won if..." Some things just go that way. In Hartford as in Einstein, the winning alliance deserved their trophies.

Someone already said, in another thread, "Let I.R.I. be I.R.I."

Looking over my post it might seem like a grudge is lurking. Not So! Let me quickly add that I still think that 118 made one of the best and most beautiful machines I've ever seen and we all wish the Robonauts nothing but the best!

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Is this open to the public?

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Is any team eligible for applying?

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You guys are right. I just wished that every Alliance had a fair shot at winning, as far as the field was concerned.

Keep IRI as IRI.

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To answer a few questions -

Any team is invited and encouraged to apply.

The event is free, open to the public, and a great event to attend even if your team is not competing. The atmosphere is fun and competitive. Teams are more relaxed in the pits and it is easy to see designes and talk with teams about their robots.

We don't know about a MAR / FiM playoff. Not discussed yet.

We WILL NOT replay Einstein.

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Good choice. Consider the playoffs, but there is no reason to cause more drama on the Einstein subject.

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I don't know about Galileo, but on Newton, we were given our triple balance practice time. All we had to do was go up and ask.

Back on subject, thank you so much for not replaying Einstein. MAR vs FiM would be very fun to watch; a best out of 5 during lunch wouldn't take much time away from anyone but the 6 teams involved.

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Galileo and Newton shared the same practice field. There was a signup sheet, and I know they were following it. There were limited slots - not enough slots to accomodate all 16 alliances in the time between alliance selections and start of elims (12:00 noon, which I would have liked to have seen pushed back a bit). Also, time slots on the signup sheet were farrrr too long - you can learn what you need to know in far less time than 10 minutes. The whole "system" essentially guaranteed that some alliances would be shut out.

Insufficient time for drive teams to get some food, strategize together, and get a bit of triple practice in.

Anyway, how this relates to IRI - I request triple practice opportunities for the elimination alliances there, and hopefully, there will be a comp bridge (or two?) on the practice field to supplement any practice going on on the main field, if that is even possible.

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The current plan is to have a full "official" field for practice, but with no electronics. If we are able to do this, there will be three bridges available for use.

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Yay! Here's hoping this comes to pass. Thanks, Chris.

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oh, but they are only for use by newer teams. and by newer, i mean any team with a number higher than 49. :D

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Our alliance never got a chance to practice...the earliest time we could get was 11:50. That was rather difficult considering that the elims started at noon and we were in the second match. A schedule could easily be set up before alliance selections ever happen...just base it on when each alliance plays - alliance 1 and 8 go first, then 4 and 5, then 2 and 7, and finally 3 and 6. Each alliance should need only 10 or 15 minutes to see what works best. 10 is normally enough, but with 4 team alliances the extra 5 minutes would be nice to try some different combinations.

Just a thought...

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We'll come in disguise as 3193's robot. Hurray for collaboration!

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This may be a dumb question, but where does one go to apply?

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Rather than an Einstein replay, I've been thinking about a 3rd place match up between the Semifinalists on Einstein. I always thought that would be neat to watch. Why not do a 3rd place Einstein runoff match set?

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I'd like to see that too. I know our flight team really wanted to go up against the Eh Team and do a 36 point auton, crazy tele-op, and triple balance to see who had the best shooter and strategy. But replaying Einstein would be very rude to the winning alliance, and would probably be counterproductive. IRI's about making friendships, not destroying any chance of them, and we need to show FIRST that even if they won't stick to the principles they tout, we will.

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NOT a dumb question.

As of time of this post, the IRI website http://www.indianaroboticsinvitational.org
says, "Stay tuned to this site for the sign up page."
The required and optional info is also listed.
Thanks Mr. Fultz and CyberBlue and all the IRI hosts!

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Oh darn :)

This seems like a vastly better idea than the replay. We get to run our magical triple balance again and it doesn't upset any of the current rankings. Plus the matches would be AWESOME :)!

(I'm also a little biased because I just want to play with 1114/2056 again)

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Similar to the MAR vs FiM, each of the various regions could put together their own "regional all-star" alliance for a fun little playoff.

Just imagine, a Texas and West Coast matchup, 1717/254/987 vs 118/148/1477... or maybe you'd like to see 67/469/33 play 1114/2056/188? Oh, the possibilities at IRI :rolleyes: .

However, I fully support placing more emphasis on getting in lots of qualification matches. More matches means better rankings. :D

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I would personally like to see a return of the Mentor Match. Not the hokey tournament at lunch time, but a full round of qualification matches (1 match per team) where the robots are operated my mentors, and coached by students. This was a ton of fun back in the day. The role reversal is interesting. Give the students a chance to see what its like to guide the team and alliance, and the mentors a chance to see what its like to take orders and execute a strategy.

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I am still undefeated in this (original) endeavor at IRI, when the matches counted.

I want to see which mentor turbo boosts the farthest off the bridge.

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I think Texas would win it...and not just because Im biased ;o

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From the IRI Website
http://www.indianaroboticsinvitational.org


Application for the 2012 IRI will begin at 6:00pm Eastern Time on Wednesday 2-May-2012. Stay tuned to this site for the sign up page. Remember, this is only the application page – not all teams can be accomodated so the selected teams will receive notification and an invitaiton to compete. The information we will be requesting is as follows:

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Well, the application is now live, but where does one go to submit support for other teams?

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Team 254 has applied. I hope we can make it out this year.

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48's hat is in the ring.

Chris just posted how to endorse another team for IRI invitation - http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...hreadid=106236

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Just submitted 2815's application. Not sure if one blue banner for 2012 is enough to get into that dance as a first-timer, but you know what happens when you don't shoot the ball.

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The Digital Goats have applied and hope to be invited to the barn dance.

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If there was a team that deserves a shot at redemption this season I think it should be 829. You guys have a great bot and it was sad that you guys couldn't go to championships.

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I still can not find where to submit the application, the last post i see on the IRI website is from yesterday and says stay tuned. Also If regions are making there "all star" alliances they either need to go with their 1st, 2nd, and 24th best robot pair up, or I'd be happy to join the other top 3 Michigan ranked team. 469 and 67 care to join?

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Bacon is hoping to join the Goats in the barnyard

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The HOT team has applied.

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Under the banner photo, next to "home" there is a block that says "2012 IRI Application". Click that.

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Is the submitting suggestions for other teams up yet? I was unable to find it...
217 is already pre-qualified by winning last year, but there are a few teams we can think of to submit the suggestions for.

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http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...hreadid=106236

Can students recommend teams? Or only mentors?

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1676 just applied. Now working on numerous support applications for other teams =).

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868 is applied and is hoping to end Indiana's five-year drought.

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I am undefeated from when they didn't count (2010) and am looking forward to playing again if they bring it back!

Wave Robotics has applied!

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624 and 231 are two other Texas teams that should be considered. We won the Bayou Regional with one and Alamo with the other. 231 had great strategy all season and 624 just had an awesome robot.

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Are teams of the pity.. I mean, FIRST Lottery invited as well?

All teams are able to apply.

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Hey Chris, the schedule page on the website has the wrong dates listed by each day (shows July 20-22, s.b. 19-21). It had me confused for a minute.

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Of course all the former drivers want to bring back the Mentor Match.

I prefer to keep my perfect (1-0) driving record intact. I try to stay as far away from driving the robot as possible, so I don't expose myself for the terrible driver I actually am.

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Aluminum Falcons (2168) will be applying, and we are looking forward to seeing the Pi-oneers again.

Side note: has anyone considered that maybe the red bumpers are the problem? How about green bumpers?

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Just make sure you bring your spare arm. I can't imagine you would be gentle with it.

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The Robowranglers have applied... 148 is looking forward to making a return to Indy!

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Team 869 PowerCord has put in their application! Looking forward to (hopefully) making our IRI debut!

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Looking at the teams who have posted that they have applied, and giggling that some of them actually have to provide credentials.

"So you're the H.O.T. team, eh? We'll be the judge of that."

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Team 2834 the Bionic Barons has applied. This is our first time applying since we feel we finally have a decent robot. The seniors who started the team 4 years ago will be graduating. This is their last chance so I hope we will be invited.

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Maybe you could come copilot ours - or be the inbounder. If I were driving, that would limit the damage you could do. :cool:

I vividly recall our guest copilot in 2005 (name withheld to protect the innocent). I failed miserably at giving him a crash course in operating the controls, and he made poor Amanda Morrison run back and forth re-loading tetra after tetra when he kept dropping it outside the field. But he persevered, scored that tetra, and we still won the match! One of my fonder recollections of IRI of yesteryear.

I think I still have that on tape somewhere.

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Just finished filling out the application :D Crossing our fingers!

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Team 696 has applied for our first ever trip to IRI, although it would be a 4th time for myself personally. We firmly believe our robot is a good design and well-constructed (best we've ever created), and has not yet unleashed its full potential. We are excited for the chance to take another run at Rebound Rumble.

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They'd be there too, but unfortunately I couldn't fit all 5 on an alliance. :D

118, 148, and more recently 1477 are the more well known among FIRST, and more likely to be selected to some sort of "Texas All Star Alliance", which I imagine would be decided by votes from other teams at IRI.

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Team 68 Truck Town Thunder has applied.

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Team 907 has applied

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I'm going to limit my recommendations to teams that have never been to IRI.

In Texas,
1. 624 - CRyptonite has had one of the best shooters all year,
2. 231 - High Voltage had great strategy and made division finals this year.
3. 3481 - Bronc Botz - for having a breakout season and winning the EI award
4. 3847 - Spectrum - for winning chairman's, having a great team and a unique defensive strategy

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379 has applied!

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I've just been notified that FRC2168 Aluminum Falcons has officially completed the application. We'd be honored to play if accepted.

Edit: Here is our Application "Video Supplement"

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Team 359 originally was not planning to attend due to a mentor getting married that Saturday and my daughter being the flower girl.:)
However, my wife gave the OK to go and promised to take lots of pics.

We also just recently learned that our driver is moving to Arizona.:(
He has won 7 of 8 regionals attended, and 2 for 2 in IRI, and will be spending his senior year, hoping to drive for another team at his next home?? We got 2 eager students waiting to take his place (one of which is 3-0 at regionals as co-operator).

Chris and Andy, can you folks follow up for us and the other teams that would require shipment of robots to your event? Last I heard, BAX Global/D.B. Schenker is out.
This will also determine whether we can do the Texas off-season event the following week.

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Our video is a work in progress at the moment, I would like to link to a page and then put the video on the page when it is done.
So my question when are the applications actually read?

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Application time closes on the 9th of May, and the list of accepted teams is published on the 15th.

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BX 1023 just submitted our first application to IRI!

(well at least since Nick and I have been coaching.. not sure before then) :)

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Team 16 applied. Against all my better judgment... :ahh:

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Team 340 has applied!

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2914 has applied!
We've been working on improvements all season, and we haven't stopped yet. Starting with a group of students, only one of which has a previous year of FIRST experience, we started simple, but didn't stay there. We've gone through 7 or 8 major iterations on our shooter, upgraded our gearboxes, upgraded our intake, and now have a basic vision system working. Our bridge manipulator has worked flawlessly from the beginning, so we've left that alone.

We hope to be the first team from DC to attend IRI!

Wetzel

4334 has applied :)

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This makes me sad. The Talent show was the best.

Talent Show
This year, at the 2012 IRI, we are not having a Talent Show. However, the Dean Simmons and the Kamen Brothers band will play, and they are seeking long-lost relatives (guest musicians) who would want to join them for a song or two.


http://www.indianaroboticsinvitational.org/talent-show/

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1718 had officially thrown our hat in the ring...we are hoping to have a couple improvements in place if we are invited!

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1640 applied as well! IRI is such a blast, and all our rookies (and vets) are really looking forward to the experience if we make it. Good luck to everyone! So many amazing teams applying. :o

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What if they did fully hybrid matches with everyone using the kinect?

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I have a strong feeling that won't be happening.

Not to mention that the majority of teams did not invest any time in trying to use the Kinect for hybrid control this year.

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I respectfully disagree and point you towards the blood, sweat, and tears of laughter from 254.