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volleygrrl234 09-11-2001 13:20

Bio-Medical engineering
 
I'm at the middle of my junior year right now, and I am starting to think about colleges. I want to be either a trauma or neurosurgeon. But the way I want to do this is the get an undergrad degree in bio-medical engineering, then go to med school. I was wondering if there is any advice anyone can give me about grades, classes to take, and good schools to go to for this. I have already looked at Vanderbilt and Northwestern. Thanks!

D.J. Fluck 09-11-2001 14:51

if u want a Bio-Med degree try the Milwaukee school of engineering...they have excellent programs up there...but it costs 25,000 a year...they give u money for getting in depending on ur SAT ACT and transcripts...it could be up to like 18,000 a year if ur 1st in ur class...check it out www.msoe.edu

volleygrrl234 09-11-2001 15:13

Yeah, well, that $25,000 is sounding pretty good right now. NW and Vanderbilt are both around $36,000, and they don't give academic based scholarships, so I am in trouble there.

David Kelly 09-11-2001 21:54

she is smart and like 1st or second in her class, so i'm sure she can get some academic scolorships

D.J. Fluck 09-11-2001 22:23

MSOE usually gives out a ton of money to people who get in...some guy that i know there had most of his college paid for because he got good grades.

Clark Gilbert 09-11-2001 22:29

??????
 
What's so special about this Milwakee school DJ......it's the only college you seem to ever talk about??

:confused:

Anne Shade 09-11-2001 23:39

Georgia Tech has a Biomedical Engineering program with Emory University. They have a pre-med option also. Tech is a great university with a lot going for it and it is not too expensive being about $19000 a year. If you wnat to get more info, here is the site for it http://www.bme.gatech.edu/academics/bs.html. If you have any questions about GT I would be happy to answer them for you.

D.J. Fluck 09-11-2001 23:46

MSOE is a really good school

David Kelly 09-11-2001 23:47

Quote:

Originally posted by D.J. Fluck
MSOE is a really good school

what is MSOE?

Brandon Martus 10-11-2001 09:44

Quote:

Originally posted by David Kelly
what is MSOE?
Milwaukee School of Engineering

My boss went there. He is always talking about it.. so I guess he liked it :D

Joe Ross 10-11-2001 11:25

Have you thought about UC San Diego? Its ranked second in the nation in biomed by USNEWS and its relatively cheap (15k for out-of-state students). You also can't beat the weather :)

When you asked about classes and grades, did you mean for highschool, or to get into med school?

For high school, you should get as good of grades as possible and take as much biology and math as possible.

For undergrad, you should get as good of grades as possible and complete the program. You should also get to know a few professors well, so that when it is time to get into med school, you have a few people who can write really good recommendations.

I would not be concerned with whether the college gives out academic scholarships or not. The way that college financial aid is set up, it doesn't really matter. After you fill out the FAFSA, the student-aid commision decides how much of your college expenses you and your parents are able to pay. When you subtract that amount from cost of the college, you get you "Need". Most colleges will attempt to give you enough money to cover this need, but not much more using a combination of academic scholarships, need-based grants and loans. At RIT, I have a academic scholarship for several thousand. I also have a need-based grant that makes up the difference between my academic scholarship and my need. If a college does not give out academic scholarships, they will still try to meet your need, it will just be with more need-based grants. There are only a few colleges in the country that don't care about the amount of academic scholarships that you have recieved when figuring out how much of a need-based grant to give. USC (University of Southern California) is one of them, but there are others.

To make it even worse, you are required to report the outside academic scholarships that you have received. For example, if you are a National Merit Finalist and get that scholarship, the college has the option of reducing your need-based aid by that amount.

Hope all of that helps :)

Christina 10-11-2001 12:06

I was going to be a biomedical engineer at first. I was also going to go to Boston University as a biomedical engineering student. And, I was going to be premed as well. :) Boston University is pretty expensive though. In high school look at biology classes and especially chemistry classes. Remember, most of the people who drop out of med school don't drop out because of biology being too hard, but usually because of the chemistry involved, especially organic chemistry. Well, that's all I can offer. :)

~Christina

volleygrrl234 13-11-2001 13:25

UC san diego isn't sounding bad.. only thing is the priximity from Indy. I went to Rose Hulman this weekend and was very impressed with that, but they currently only have it as a minor. As far as the need-based stuff goes, mine's not going to be a whole lot, hence my need for academic scholarships.

Scott England 15-11-2001 13:10

Virginia Tech, new college of biomedical engineering
 
Hey, I'm an ESM (Engineering Science and Mechanics) major at Virginia Tech, with a concentration in biomechanics. How on earth do you midwesterners pay for college? VT is about 8000 $ instate, probably around 15000 $ out of state. Anyways, Virginia Tech is in the process of building a new college of biomedical engineering as a joint Venture with Wake Forest University (we have a school of engineering, they don't, they have a med school, we don't) I'm not sure exactly if or when undergrad degrees will be offered from the newly formed college, but I know Graduate degrees will be offered. You can read all about it here
http://www.technews.vt.edu/Archives/2001/Oct/01405.html
we do have the biomechanics concentration for undergrads majoring in ESM, and many of us go to med school. Though to throw in my two cents. My sister went to emory med school in atlanta and really liked it there, and I know a few ramblin wrecks from Georgia Tech, nice town, great engineering school, good football team, very much like Virginia Tech, just in the heart of atlanta as opposed to the appalachian mountains. I've heard good things about UC San Diego also, one student from our VT robotics team went there and is having a good time, though I don't know how much he is paying. I hope this helps some.
~Scott

Carolyn Duncan 15-11-2001 21:52

HEY SCOTT!
 
VT is a good school. All of the VA schools are expensive if you have to pay out of state tuition. I would suggest just about any school in North Carolina. Most all of them have good med programs and I'm sure they would include the major you are looking for. UNC, Wake Forrest, and Duke, just to name a few, are all really good schools. I also think you may want to check into the University of Kentucky. I was recently there in their hospital and it looked good to me. I hope this helps and isnt too boring or useless.

Christina 16-11-2001 22:31

Re: Virginia Tech, new college of biomedical engineering
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Scott England
Hey, I'm an ESM (Engineering Science and Mechanics) major at Virginia Tech, with a concentration in biomechanics.
~Scott

I'm an ESG (Engineering Science) major, and the reason I entered this major in the beginning is because we offered a concentration in biomedical engineering (I'm now thinking of a concentration in mechanical engineering). We just opened a new major called bioengineering as well. And I go to SUNY Stony Brook. Since I commute and it's a state school, it's only about $4500 a year.

~Christina

Libby Ritchie 17-11-2001 17:22

Hey, CT. Wasn't Daniel Chow majoring in this? I know she is enrolled at MIT...but I think she would be a great person to contact not only about possible universities, but also about the major itself.

Good luck!

lr

P.S. Go Colts! (#18)

David McGovern 17-11-2001 18:17

Biomedical Engineering is an excellent choice. I attend Johns Hopkins University, which is currently ranked #1 BME in the country. I am the freshman representative for BME society here and can say that, although the program here will basically set your scehdule for the next four years, it is worth the investment in time and in money. The opportunities for research are open to everyone, as a freshman I am currently scheduled for an interview in a lab that works on tissue engineering, an example application would be an artificial lab-grown pancreas. You can participate in research here at the Johns Hopkins campus, or at the Johns Hopkins Medical school. The BME advisors are amazing and the director, Dr. Shoukas, has been around nearly forever in the field of BME. He is currently working on starting a BME program at MIT. Post-graduation job opportunities are basically endless for BME majors here. As for pre-meds...BME is the hardest way to get into medical school, but for those BME majors who do apply to medical school, around 90% are admitted. If you want to do BME and also pre-med, you can't beat Johns Hopkins University. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me at dmcgovern@jhu.edu and I'll be happy to answer them.

David McGovern

volleygrrl234 18-11-2001 14:04

In response to the Johns Hopkins possibility, I was actually considering the thought of going there for med school once I am done with undergrad work. I've also been looking at Vanderbilt because of their center for BME studies. But its just the whole money thing that's in the way. What types of scores (sat, act, etc.) do I need to get? I haven't gotten mine back yet, but from the people I know that are attending prestigious colleges, I'm looking at nothing less than a 1300, if that low. Also, financial aid, what can I do to get more money? I'm just starting the whole process now. Thanks.

David McGovern 18-11-2001 15:06

JHU Average SAT score: 1420
Average ACT: 30

To get more money, try asking your guidance counselor about specific scholarships that you have to be nominated for, for schools you would seriously consider attending once accepted.

Good luck.

Shelley_delphi chick 19-11-2001 07:21

Everyone Forgot A School
 
:(
No one even mentioned a great school that is also where the Philly Alliance Regional is........ Drexel University!! That is where I plan to attend school as a Biomedical Engineer. Unlike some of you though, I have no interest in the medical profession. I want to do mainly all research and lab work for some company.

If you have good grades and want to go to college there is a way to get there. No one has mentioned that the service is a great way to get threw college?!? I know many people are affraid that they will have to go to war, but hey you live in this country as well and you should want to serve it proud!!



Shelley

Todd Derbyshire 19-11-2001 16:42

Engineering
 
Here are some suggestions for good schools for engineering especially in Civil (I'm applying to them all as I write)
1. Boston University
2. University of Southern California
3. University of Florida
4. Penn State University
5. Arizona State University
anything in the Ivy league is also good Penn, Yale, etc.

Carolyn Duncan 19-11-2001 19:08

If you want more scholarship info go to http://www.fastweb.com You can fill out the profile and they will tell you about scholarships that you qualify for. Theres even a box to check for SME if you get your card... Also, Florida Tech is a small private school but they have good programs.

sai_yang 19-11-2001 22:35

bio med engineering
 
Hey, everyone is forgetting University of Michgan. U of M is considered by most people to be one of the best college for bio-med engineering. There are lots of students there that are going for bio-med. They do have really great human factor labs that enables you to get more involved. Maybe check it out at www.umich.edu Good Luck on your search. I agreee with the others that you really have to know your math and chemistry for that major. You have to take organic chemistry and everyone says it is very hard. I don't want to discourage you but just wanted to let you know. :cool:

aakash30 24-01-2005 10:41

Re: Bio-Medical engineering
 
hi i'm aakash from india. i plan to do my masters in bio-med. can u tell me what should be the minimum gre score required for a good univ. i am also doin a project on ECG simulator can some one please help me with taht.you can also mail me at aakash30@hotmail.com. :)

Emily Pease 24-01-2005 11:09

Re: Bio-Medical engineering
 
Yay, MSOE! I would have gone to school there, but Northeastern University gave me a great scholarship, so I decided to go off to Boston. I'm going to Northeastern for Electrical Engineering. I am very interested in going to grad school for Biomedical Engineering; NU recently developed a Biomedical Engineering program, but it's too late for me to get involved with that, so I've been quite involved with something called CenSSIS: The Center for Sub-Surface Imaging and Sensing. You can do a lot of Biomedical-related things, and it looks great on a resume.

I would recommend Northeastern. It's really expensive, but it sounds like you would be eligible for some great scholarships, especially since you're a girl insterested in Engineering. The scholarship I have, the Connections scholarship, is for female engineers and it pays full tuition.

Anyway, I love it here at Northeastern. Feel free to contact me (emily.pease@gmail.com) if you have any questions.

tiffany34990 24-01-2005 17:38

Re: Bio-Medical engineering
 
This is the major i'm mainly into and as a senior two school that are def. great besides MSOE is Drexel and VCU.

i haven't decided what school i'm heading to yet but it's all good

AmyPrib 24-01-2005 18:40

Re: Bio-Medical engineering
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by volleygrrl234
But the way I want to do this is the get an undergrad degree in bio-medical engineering, then go to med school. I was wondering if there is any advice anyone can give me about grades, classes to take, and good schools to go to for this. I have already looked at Vanderbilt and Northwestern. Thanks!

I have not seen Purdue listed yet. https://engineering.purdue.edu/Engr/...grams/bme.html
Research PUs website. I believe BioMed Engr is relatively new (last 10yrs) within engineering there, but Purdue has been rapidly changing the last 5-7yrs with all the new technologies and developments there. Worth a look.
Another ref - check out some of the links
https://engineering.purdue.edu/Engr/Signature
They even started a new BioMed building to be done in '06.

KEY 25-01-2005 00:36

Re: Bio-Medical engineering
 
I am a Michigan State University Family Practice Residency Program Director, and would be happy to advise in more detail off line. I will suggest that you complete your masters in Biomedical engineering first prior to Medical School. Once you have completed medical school and residency you will be too busy to go back to engineering. Your student loans will need to be paid, and this will quickly change your mind regarding a second education. Your undergrad choice of classes need careful consideration to balance engineering prerequisites and premed.
My daughter has the same interest as you, but she has one more year to consider the choices. I can contact you if you wish or you are welcome to call me at the hospital at 810-606-5983. Hope this helps, Ken


Quote:

Originally Posted by volleygrrl234
I'm at the middle of my junior year right now, and I am starting to think about colleges. I want to be either a trauma or neurosurgeon. But the way I want to do this is the get an undergrad degree in bio-medical engineering, then go to med school. I was wondering if there is any advice anyone can give me about grades, classes to take, and good schools to go to for this. I have already looked at Vanderbilt and Northwestern. Thanks!


Kelly322 25-01-2005 11:50

Re: Virginia Tech, new college of biomedical engineering
 
I know exactly where you are coming from. I also wanted to do med school, but had other interests as well. Having just a biology or chemisty degree felt like it would limit me if I graduated and then didn't want to go to med school- I would still have to continue my education to have a good career opportunity. As fate would have it, I got an academic scholarship for engineering to Virginia Tech, and chose to major in mechanical engineering and bulk up on biology and chemistry classes. (There really wasn't any other attractive way of doing engineering to prepare for med school at VT at the time.) That way, I had my undergrad education paid for and was academically prepared to attend med school. I did really well on my MCATs and was ready to start med school when I graduated. Then, a few months before graduation, I got a good job offer to work as an engineer. It was a great opportunity to make a little money and get some "real world" experience before I went back to school. I ended up getting married, settling down, and never going back, but it was all by choice. I've continued my career as an engineer, which isn't so bad. At least with the engineering degree, I had a career to "fall back" on. There are definitely days that I wish I had chosen otherwise, so my advise is to not stray if that is indeed what you want to do. I really think that the engineering/med school combo is a great one. Engineers tend to be logical thinkers with a constant desire to learn, and those are two qualities of great doctors. (I was personally interested in pathology or perhaps radiology, as I assumed that either of those would minimize my interaction with people and maximize my "science" time.) I, of course, think that my alma mater, Virginia Tech, would be a super place to attend, but I think out-of-state tuition is pretty scary. Perhaps Duke (my med school of choice), Johns Hopkins, or Vanderbilt (my 2nd choice med school) are places to also consider.

Just my personal experience with the whole decision making process.

Kelly =)

Mark Pierce 25-01-2005 12:31

Re: Bio-Medical engineering
 
My daughter is a Freshman Biomedical Engineering student at Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland. So far she's been quite impressed with the school and the program. A lot of her classmates are pre-med and there seems to be quite a few research opportunities there, for undergrads and grads. In the end, you have to find a school you like and fit with...

Alexander McGee 28-01-2005 16:28

Re: Bio-Medical engineering
 
I am a bio-medical engineer (in training). I attend Kettering University in Flint, MI, and work for Stryker in Kalamazoo. Stryker is a top leader in the medical industry, right up there with Phizer and the rest.

Kettering has a wonderful program for Bio-medical engineers, combine that with a co-op in an biomedical field, and you have one great experience. At Stryker, I design robots and test systems to validate and test our products.

There are a number fo different ways you can go with bio-medical engineering. I just like the fact that my work can help save lives.

Wetzel 28-01-2005 20:32

Re: Bio-Medical engineering
 
I'll second VCU as a good choice. We have a great BME program, and our current president and administration is really growing the Life Science program with lots of genomics and BioInfomatics classes.

VCU also has a large med school at a large city hospital. Great place to learn to be a doctor, or nurse as I plan to. VCU has program to guarantee admission to med school for high school applicants. You apply, and if they accept you, you are guaranteed admission to VCU School of Medicine upon completion of your undergrad degree.

Also at VCU is ENGR 492, Mentoring a FIRST team and a large regional. :)
Where ever you go, good luck.

Wetzel

volleygrrl234 01-02-2005 07:52

UPDATE!!!
 
So, I feel as though I should update y'all as to what the heck happened in the past 3 years. I am currently in my 4th semester down here in Nashville, TN at Vanderbilt, and yes, I am still in BME. The whole shebang of my majors is a double major in BME/Spanish plus a minor in Management of Technology. On a note as to the university, I am in love. It was the right choice for me, not too big, not too small. It actually has a social life and is located in an awesome city. And the Engineering school has been wonderful. It might not have been as big as Purdue's, but keep in mind neither Purdue or Rose-Hulman are accredited by ABET for BME. Fact I learned the other day actually. I love the people who are here, because we place an emphasis on the liberal arts and not just engineering, so we have nerdy engineers who can at least talk to you! Anyways, I love it here, I encourage anyone who is thinking engineering to look here because it really encompasses everything. Plus, we're like #19 for top rated universities. And we have some of the hottest guys!


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