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MooreteP 01-05-2012 21:19

The Eh-Team. Video of Archimedes QF 3-1
 
For those of you who never got to see this once in a lifetime alliance play their game with a dicey triple balance that wins the match, here it is:

http://youtu.be/jUTt7_bU2Lw

The rookies, 4334, the Alberta Tech Alliance, built the perfect partner for Simbotics and OP Robotics. It is the cutest little bot that spends the match frustrating the Blue Alliance by scavenging their balls and spitting them over to 1114 and 2056.

The match was filmed from the opposite side of the field, so it is not easy to appreciate their fine machines, but the triple balance is captured.

The 7th seeded Blue Alliance team of the Cyberknights from Southington CT, 195, The Wired Cats from Atlanta GA, 2415, and Bear Metal from Maple Valley Washington, 2046, were also quite exceptional and pushed them very hard. In fact they outscored them on baskets by 15 points.

195 played very effective defense on 2056, but unfortunately tipped over on the bridge at the end.

86-61, only a 25 point difference without any bridge points.

Anupam Goli 01-05-2012 21:29

Re: The Eh-Team. Video of Archimedes SF 3-2
 
For the title, I think you meant QF 3-1, last time i checked there were only 2 sets of matches in semis. :rolleyes: , and in QF2 the match ended with a double triple, so this is the first Quarterfinal match.

It was an awesome series of matches for sure, the Eh team (I like to call them Team Canada) was dominant, but I think 2415 was a steal of a pic for 195 and 2046, and together they put up a big fight. I remember 3 years ago though, it was the same situation. Team 1002, 2415, and 107 had to face 1114 and 2056 int he quarter finals, and it ended in a similar fashion.

akoscielski3 01-05-2012 21:35

Re: The Eh-Team. Video of Archimedes SF 3-2
 
From Here on out, I a member of the FIRST Community, propose FRC Team 1114, and FRC Team 2056, be referred to as, "The EH-Team".

Does anyone Second this proposal?


Disclamer: I am not being rude to 4334, but they we only team mates with these two amazing teams for the division. Teams 1114, and 2056 are almost always together, and have won 10 Regional's together, and now 1 Division.

MooreteP 01-05-2012 21:39

Re: The Eh-Team. Video of Archimedes SF 3-2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wing (Post 1165518)
For the title, I think you meant QF 3-1, last time i checked there were only 2 sets of matches in semis. :rolleyes: , and in QF2 the match ended with a double triple, so this is the first Quarterfinal match.

Thank you, fixed.

Solidstate89 01-05-2012 21:51

Re: The Eh-Team. Video of Archimedes SF 3-2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by akoscielski3 (Post 1165523)

Teams 1114, and 2056 are almost always together, and have won 10 Regional's together, and now 1 Division.

Haha, tell me about it. We've been on the receiving end of those juggernauts before.

Austin2046 01-05-2012 22:02

Re: The Eh-Team. Video of Archimedes QF 3-1
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MooreteP (Post 1165512)
The 7th seeded Blue Alliance team of the Cyberknights from Southington CT, 195, The Wired Cats from Atlanta GA, 2415, and Bare Metal from Maple Valley Washington, 2046, were also quite exceptional and pushed them very hard. In fact they outscored them on baskets by 15 points.

It's Bear Metal btw... but yeah, that was a tough set of matches. We really thought our alliance had the potential to pull off the upset. Had we gone for a triple when they did, we probably could've pulled out the victory in this match. In the second match I was amazed at how fast and clean we tripled, altho it took 2415 a while to lower the bridge. Still though, we had a great time and it was a pleasure to play with and against such great teams.

Anupam Goli 01-05-2012 22:04

Re: The Eh-Team. Video of Archimedes QF 3-1
 
I think all it would've taken was a double balance at the end of the match to beat them in the first match...

Austin2046 01-05-2012 22:14

Re: The Eh-Team. Video of Archimedes QF 3-1
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wing (Post 1165540)
I think all it would've taken was a double balance at the end of the match to beat them in the first match...

It ended up being a 25 point differential so with the double we still would've lost by 5 points. I believe we were ahead of them before they went to triple tho, so had we done the same we would've won. Instead i think we we were skeptical about their tripling capabilities and it came back to bite us in the end.

Anupam Goli 01-05-2012 22:16

Re: The Eh-Team. Video of Archimedes QF 3-1
 
yea, it was a 25 point difference, but really close. If this alliance didn't play the "Eh Team" first round, I think a lot of heads would've been turned towards this alliance's power.

iPenguin 01-05-2012 22:21

Re: The Eh-Team. Video of Archimedes QF 3-1
 
I'm sorry, but what is the reason for calling 1114+2056 the "Eh Team"? Am I mispronouncing it?

Austin2046 01-05-2012 22:23

Re: The Eh-Team. Video of Archimedes QF 3-1
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wing (Post 1165554)
yea, it was a 25 point difference, but really close. If this alliance didn't play the "Eh Team" first round, I think a lot of heads would've been turned towards this alliance's power.

I agree entirely, OP and Simbotics have worked together a lot before, so they knew how to play their game... i don't believe we even had a match with 2415 or 195 before we formed our alliance. Had we the chance, I'm sure we could've really worked out a rhythm together, and turned a lot of heads.

Anupam Goli 01-05-2012 22:26

Re: The Eh-Team. Video of Archimedes QF 3-1
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iPenguin (Post 1165556)
I'm sorry, but what is the reason for calling 1114+2056 the "Eh Team"? Am I mispronouncing it?

It's a play on "The A-team". There's that stereotype that Canadians say "Eh" a lot.

Yipyapper 01-05-2012 22:27

Re: The Eh-Team. Video of Archimedes QF 3-1
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iPenguin (Post 1165556)
I'm sorry, but what is the reason for calling 1114+2056 the "Eh Team"? Am I mispronouncing it?

Eh as in the Canada stereotype to say "Eh?" , and all 3 robots on the alliance were Canadian.

1114 - St. Catherine's, ON
2056 - Stoney Creek, ON
4334 - Calgary, AB

MooreteP 01-05-2012 22:28

Re: The Eh-Team. Video of Archimedes QF 3-1
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iPenguin (Post 1165556)
I'm sorry, but what is the reason for calling 1114+2056 the "Eh Team"? Am I mispronouncing it?

1114 and 2056 AND 4334 are all from Canada, you hoser. :D

iPenguin 01-05-2012 22:32

Re: The Eh-Team. Video of Archimedes QF 3-1
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MooreteP (Post 1165567)
1114 and 2056 AND 4334 are all from Canada, you hoser. :D

Wait, I'm not from Canada, and I'M a hoser?

akoscielski3 01-05-2012 22:34

Re: The Eh-Team. Video of Archimedes QF 3-1
 
its not a stereotypical thing. We actually do say it a lot. If I try and notice when i say it, i say it a lot. I dont notice i say it though, unless i really try to, or try and see when other people say it.

But i'm thinking we should just call 1114 and 2056 the Eh-Team. love that it was an all Canadian alliance and all but 1114 and 2056 are a team by themselves, kinda like Sister Teams. No offence 4334. Love u guys :D

MooreteP 01-05-2012 22:48

Re: The Eh-Team. Video of Archimedes QF 3-1
 
Party on, Wayne. :)

iVanDuzer 01-05-2012 23:01

Re: The Eh-Team. Video of Archimedes QF 3-1
 
To those saying that the "Eh Team" should exclude 4334 just because 2056 and 1114 team up a lot...

4334 was critical to that strategy. I know 1114 and 2056 had practiced tripling numerous times before champs with a regular sized wide robot, but I'm sure it wasn't nearly as pretty as the balancing on Archimedes. Seriously, who would have thought that two long robots could pull off a >10 second triple? It was all thanks to 4334. I know that second alliance was banking on you guys being left in the draft.

In my opinion 4334 was THE steal of Archimedes, and if it wasn't for 16, they would have been the steal of all four divisions. These guys were perfect for uber-fast balancing, had an excellent bridge manipulator, were awesome at stealing balls and, most importantly, basically solidified 2056 and 1114's balances. Could 2056+1114 won Archimedes with another wide robot? This FIRSTer doubts it. Kudos to you, 4334. In my mind, there is no doubt that without you there would be no "Eh Team."

Walter Deitzler 01-05-2012 23:07

Re: The Eh-Team. Video of Archimedes QF 3-1
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iVanDuzer (Post 1165583)
To those saying that the "Eh Team" should exclude 4334 just because 2056 and 1114 team up a lot...

4334 was critical to that strategy. I know 1114 and 2056 had practiced tripling numerous times before champs with a regular sized wide robot, but I'm sure it wasn't nearly as pretty as the balancing on Archimedes. Seriously, who would have thought that two long robots could pull off a >10 second triple? It was all thanks to 4334. I know that second alliance was banking on you guys being left in the draft.

In my opinion 4334 was THE steal of Archimedes, and if it wasn't for 16, they would have been the steal of all four divisions. These guys were perfect for uber-fast balancing, had an excellent bridge manipulator, were awesome at stealing balls and, most importantly, basically solidified 2056 and 1114's balances. Could 2056+1114 won Archimedes with another wide robot? This FIRSTer doubts it. Kudos to you, 4334. In my mind, there is no doubt that without you there would be no "Eh Team."

I think that 1114 and 2056 are the "eh team" because they always work together and are really good at winning when they do so. 4334 is not always with this dynamic duo. In other words, we are not referring to the championship alliance, but the normal powerhouse of 1114 and 2056.

Edit:: I did like 4334 and their bot this year, and I am not saying anything against them. Just become part of the regular alliance and they can join the "eh team" too.

iVanDuzer 01-05-2012 23:46

Re: The Eh-Team. Video of Archimedes QF 3-1
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LedLover96 (Post 1165585)
I think that 1114 and 2056 are the "eh team" because they always work together and are really good at winning when they do so. 4334 is not always with this dynamic duo. In other words, we are not referring to the championship alliance, but the normal powerhouse of 1114 and 2056.

Edit:: I did like 4334 and their bot this year, and I am not saying anything against them. Just become part of the regular alliance and they can join the "eh team" too.

I see why people are excluding 4334 from the Eh Team. I just disagree with it. In my mind, the Eh Team disbanded after Einstein. I seriously doubt that the alliance could reform in future championships (or even regionals: good luck grabbing 4334 in the second round now!) or if they did that it would be as magical and dominant as it was on Archimedes.

I guess what I was saying is that without 4334 there would be no Eh Team. I'm sure all the current members of 1114+2056 would agree. Sure, the two of them are great at winning together, arguably being the greatest partnership in FIRST history, but I'd bet dollars to donuts that the number 2 alliance would not have won without 4334. As great as 2056 and 1114 are, they're just two teams, and it takes three to win it (case in point: Archimedes 2009).

That's what the Eh Team is. Not 1114. Not 2056. Not 4334. The Eh Team is magic. Everyone in Canada and beyond felt it when the Eh Team was on the field. I doubt any other alliance could compare. It's the culmination of hundreds of factors that together create a dream team. It's an alliance you wait literally for years to be a part of.

Thad House 02-05-2012 00:27

Re: The Eh-Team. Video of Archimedes QF 3-1
 
This whole thread is making me start to feel much better about our failed match on Saturday. When we first lost I was very sad that we lost because we knew we would be out of the eliminations. Had we won that match, we would have been picking 7th, and 4334 were at the top of our pick list, because we saw how useful they would have been to us in addition to any other team. If we would have won that match, "The Eh-Team" would not have happened. So it hurts us that we lost, but it gave entrance to one of the greatest and coolest alliances I have ever seen in my 3 years in FIRST.

In my eyes, I see 4334 as "The Eh-Team" because without them that alliance, in my eyes, would have had alot harder chance at winning the matches the way they did.

Undertones 02-05-2012 17:56

Re: The Eh-Team. Video of Archimedes QF 3-1
 
So much love... Thanks guys. The "Eh Team" was a dream team, and we're really happy we got a chance to compete with such amazing teams. Takes the sting off what happened, just a little. In all we're pretty happy with our success this year, I don't think we really could have asked much more for our rookie year.

Racer26 03-05-2012 10:13

Re: The Eh-Team. Video of Archimedes QF 3-1
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Austin2046 (Post 1165550)
Instead i think we we were skeptical about their tripling capabilities and it came back to bite us in the end.

That was your mistake.

I'm not sure how well known it is outside of Canada, but 1114 and 2056 (along with a number of other teams, including 3161, and 2852) share a practice facility. A closed Niagara district school board school. They have a full practice field, complete with field elements built to the real (not low-cost) specs set up in that school's gymnasium.

As soon as 2056 chose 1114 in Archi alliance selections (and I knew they'd added their stingers for GTRWest), I knew that there would be triples. Beautiful, alarmingly well practiced triples. I was sure they'd practiced that move together so many times at home with a generic wide-bot (possibly 2852 or 3161) that it would be flawless.

Anupam Goli 03-05-2012 23:53

Re: The Eh-Team. Video of Archimedes QF 3-1
 
yea, if the 7 seeded alliance knew about the tripling capabilities, I think the alliance would've done much better. Once 2415 got the bridge lowered in the 2nd match, it took what, 3 seconds to triple with them?

NickTosta 05-05-2012 12:19

Re: The Eh-Team. Video of Archimedes QF 3-1
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Austin2046 (Post 1165550)
It ended up being a 25 point differential so with the double we still would've lost by 5 points. I believe we were ahead of them before they went to triple tho, so had we done the same we would've won. Instead i think we we were skeptical about their tripling capabilities and it came back to bite us in the end.

Yeah, if we had tripled we definitely would have won that match. I think part of the problem though was that in that match a ball was stuck under the bridge or something, which is why we couldn't really triple in time. The bridge had to be tipped from the other side which kind of threw everything off.

Just so everyone else knows, we tried tripling on the practice field in two configurations - with 2415 going up last and with 2046 going up last. We didn't have a chance to try it with us (195) going up last. We had a feeling that us going up last would have worked, but because we never got to actually try it that kind of added to the confusion on the field during the first match.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Austin2046 (Post 1165559)
I agree entirely, OP and Simbotics have worked together a lot before, so they knew how to play their game... i don't believe we even had a match with 2415 or 195 before we formed our alliance. Had we the chance, I'm sure we could've really worked out a rhythm together, and turned a lot of heads.

Well, I think our 4-second triple balance in QF3-2 had to have turned some heads. You could tell from the first match (with the really disorganized triple balance attempt) that we weren't all quite on the same page. That definitely improved for the second match but the alliance just barely came up short.

By the way, what ended up happening to you guys between QF3-1 and QF3-2? It looked like something happened to your intake but I never got a chance to ask, I ended up getting distracted by something then forgot.

Austin2046 05-05-2012 13:08

Re: The Eh-Team. Video of Archimedes QF 3-1
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NickTosta (Post 1167190)
By the way, what ended up happening to you guys between QF3-1 and QF3-2? It looked like something happened to your intake but I never got a chance to ask, I ended up getting distracted by something then forgot.

I was told something like our whole shooter got messed up (i myself wasn't there, i was watching on the webcast and calling the team from home.) So i don't think we even shot a single ball that match. i wish they had the full video of qf3-2 up... we were supposed to feed our hybrid balls to 2415 for hybrid but the field crew wouldn't let our drive team back on the field to place our hybrid balls... but one of the field crew did it for us. The balls jammed in hybrid though because they weren't placed correctly, and this just really upset me... esspecially when we lost by only 11 points.


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