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craigboez 10-05-2012 15:42

Source for Shaft Couplers
 
Does anyone have a good source for inexpensive shaft couplers? I'm looking to couple a 1/4" od encoder to the end of a 1/4" od shaft for the steering portion of a swerve module. Both shafts will be smooth, no flat spots, so I'm looking for a clamp style (not set screw style) shaft coupling. To allow for some manufacturing tolerances I don't want it to be completely rigid, so I was looking at using a semi-flexible slit type coupling like this.

At $13.50 the SDP/SI plastic version is the cheapest version I could find. Aluminum versions all seem to be $25-30. Any comments on plastic vs aluminum?

Automation direct makes some (here) for $7 but they're setup for 6mm shafts. Does anyone have experience with these - do they work for 1/4" shafts, do they require modifications, etc?

Since we'll be buying several of these I'm trying to find the most economical option that will still be reliable. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Madison 10-05-2012 15:55

Re: Source for Shaft Couplers
 
While not very pretty, we often couple encoders to shafts using surgical tubing that is zip-tied into place. It works quite well.

Akash Rastogi 10-05-2012 15:58

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I've never looked at the cost while ordering these at work, but the company we always go to is Ruland.

http://www.ruland.com/index.asp

KrazyCarl92 10-05-2012 16:08

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http://www.mcmaster.com/#standard-sh...plings/=hh6zib

There are a variety of shaft couplings here and you can specify which bore sizes you want.

JVN 10-05-2012 16:33

Re: Source for Shaft Couplers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by craigboez (Post 1168576)
Does anyone have a good source for inexpensive shaft couplers? I'm looking to couple a 1/4" od encoder to the end of a 1/4" od shaft for the steering portion of a swerve module. Both shafts will be smooth, no flat spots, so I'm looking for a clamp style (not set screw style) shaft coupling. To allow for some manufacturing tolerances I don't want it to be completely rigid, so I was looking at using a semi-flexible slit type coupling like this.

At $13.50 the SDP/SI plastic version is the cheapest version I could find. Aluminum versions all seem to be $25-30. Any comments on plastic vs aluminum?

Automation direct makes some (here) for $7 but they're setup for 6mm shafts. Does anyone have experience with these - do they work for 1/4" shafts, do they require modifications, etc?

Since we'll be buying several of these I'm trying to find the most economical option that will still be reliable. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Do you have access to a 3D printer? I've had good luck in the past with custom 3D printed couplers for applications like these.

-John

R.C. 10-05-2012 16:39

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We've used these on our 2011 and 2012 robot for our arms/turrets.

http://www.mcmaster.com/#9658T3

-RC

Dad1279 10-05-2012 17:34

Re: Source for Shaft Couplers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Madison (Post 1168582)
While not very pretty, we often couple encoders to shafts using surgical tubing that is zip-tied into place. It works quite well.

Same here.

Gdeaver 10-05-2012 17:35

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We use the Automation Direct Couplers that were mentioned on our swerve steering sensor - 1/4" shafts. Just reamed them out. Be careful to not insert the shaft in too far or you will turn them into ridged couplers. A shaft flat can always be filed. Have worked well and the price is nice.

Al Skierkiewicz 10-05-2012 19:06

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Small Parts Incorporated, they were an FRC sponsor long ago. Now they are part of AmazonSupply.

AlexH 10-05-2012 20:54

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https://www.surpluscenter.com/item.a...ame=powerTrans
two of these would work

Chris Fultz 10-05-2012 21:15

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we made small flats on the potentiometer shaft and the shaft we were mounting on, and used the set-screw version from McMaster referenced above. They worked very well and are easy to install.

Joe Ross 10-05-2012 21:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Madison (Post 1168582)
While not very pretty, we often couple encoders to shafts using surgical tubing that is zip-tied into place. It works quite well.

We do the same. We got the idea from Dan Katanski from team 240.

ratdude747 10-05-2012 22:52

Re: Source for Shaft Couplers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Madison (Post 1168582)
While not very pretty, we often couple encoders to shafts using surgical tubing that is zip-tied into place. It works quite well.

In addition, that also is good for dealing with misaligned holes. Trust me, it happens.

Mk.32 11-05-2012 00:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ratdude747 (Post 1168680)
In addition, that also is good for dealing with misaligned holes. Trust me, it happens.

Unless you are 254/1114/1538/118/ETC :cool:

pfreivald 11-05-2012 08:39

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Anyone have a picture of how they use the surgical tubing to connect an encoder to a shaft?

thefro526 11-05-2012 09:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pfreivald (Post 1168721)
Anyone have a picture of how they use the surgical tubing to connect an encoder to a shaft?

Here are two posts containing pictures that I could find pretty quickly.

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...74&postcount=7

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...7&postcount=25

pfreivald 11-05-2012 09:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by thefro526 (Post 1168727)
Here are two posts containing pictures that I could find pretty quickly.

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...74&postcount=7

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...7&postcount=25

Right, I know how you'd do it with a trimpot with a shaft on it -- you're basically using surgical tubing as a cheap shaft coupler... I thought we were talking about the kit US Digital Optical Encoders, and thought something somewhat more elegant was going on.

Nothing to see here... :)

FrankJ 11-05-2012 09:24

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As you probably realize, the encoders depend on the shaft bearings to keep the encoder disc aligned. Surgical tube will not do that. :(

thefro526 11-05-2012 09:33

Re: Source for Shaft Couplers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pfreivald (Post 1168729)
Right, I know how you'd do it with a trimpot with a shaft on it -- you're basically using surgical tubing as a cheap shaft coupler... I thought we were talking about the kit US Digital Optical Encoders, and thought something somewhat more elegant was going on.

Nothing to see here... :)

Ah, I must've misunderstood.

I've never seen the Surgical tubing method used with KOP encoders, only US Digital S4 series encoders. Though, You could take a 1/4" Pin and slide it into the KOP encoder and then attach surgical tubing to that... Not sure how to address the disk alignment issue though.


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