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Gregor 24-06-2012 13:09

Re: 2012 IRI Predictions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MNellist (Post 1175100)
No it has not changed however the stinger is connected to a bracket that is outside the physical frame but inside the bumpers. I guess it all depends on the definition of inside/outside the frame perimeter.

Sorry for my ambiguity. Stinger OUT means outside the frame perimeter, the bumpers, and extending beyond the side your drive orientation is (i.e. if you are long orientation it protrudes beyond your short side, if you are wide orientation it protrudes beyond your long side).

lemiant 24-06-2012 13:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gregor01 (Post 1175105)
Sorry for my ambiguity. Stinger OUT means outside the frame perimeter, the bumpers, and extending beyond the side your drive orientation is (i.e. if you are long orientation it protrudes beyond your short side, if you are wide orientation it protrudes beyond your long side).

2056 is an excellent example of an OUT stinger

pwnageNick 24-06-2012 13:51

Re: 2012 IRI Predictions
 
Quote:

2949 .Wide..
also STINGER OUT. this was added before World for us.
also I believe it can hang off 12+ in so OVERHANG(+). I suppose the device we have that makes that possible is our drop down middle wheel. That way the robot just rests on the middle and back wheels. Does that count?

-Nick

Gregor 24-06-2012 14:06

Re: 2012 IRI Predictions
 
STINGER OUT - Stinger of any kind applied outside of frame perimeter (i.e. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yEcf...ailpage#t=268s)
STINGER IN - Stinger of any kind applied inside frame perimeter (i.e. http://youtu.be/Ar6CMCwlW5k)
BRAKES - Braking/stay put system - mechanical brakes, pneumatic pad onto bridge surface, etc.
PID BRAKES - Deserves its own category if no other mechanical braking present, as control stops once match ends.
OVERHANG(+) - Can hang at least 12" of robot off the bridge. Use OVERHANG+ if you have additional features to secure the bot that don't fall into any other category - wood blocks, wedges, tilting arm to affect COG :-), etc.


16 ...Swerve..
25 ...Long..Stinger In..Brakes
27 ...Long..
33 ...Wide..Stinger Out
45 ...Wide..
48 ...Long..Stinger In..Overhang+
51 ...Wide..Stinger In
67 ...Wide..Stinger Out
68 ...Wide..
71 ...Swerve..
111 ..Long..Stinger In..Brakes..Overhang+
118 ..Wide..Stinger In
125 ..Long..
148 ..Wide..Stinger In
192 ..Long..
217 ..Long..Stinger In..Overhang+
233 ..Long..
234 ..Wide..
245 ..Wide..
269 ..wide..
292 ..wide..
330 ..Long..Stinger In
340 ..Long..Stinger In..Overhang+
341 ..Wide..Stinger In..10" Hang..PID Brakes
359 ..Long..
379 ..Long..
399 ..Wide..
447 ..Long..
461 ..Long..Overhang
469 ..Square..Stinger Out
503 ..Mecanum..
548 ..Long..Stinger In..Overhang+
573 ..Long..
624 ..long..
744 ..Long..
772 ..Long..Overhang
781 ..Long..
829 ..Wide..Overhang
868 ..Square..
907 ..Wide..Stinger Out..PID Brakes
973 ..Swerve..Stinger Out..Brakes
1023 .Wide..Stinger Out
1024 .Wide..
1114 .Long..Stinger In, PID Brakes, Overhang+
1538 .Long..
1592 .Wide..
1640 .Swerve..
1676 .Long..Stinger In
1714 .Wide..
1718 .Wide..Stinger Out..Brakes
1730 .Wide..
1732 .Wide..
1741 .Mecanum..
1902 .Long..
2054 .Long..Stinger Out
2056 .Long..Stinger Out
2168 .Long..Stinger In
2194 .Wide..
2337 .Long..Stinger In..Overhang..Brakes
2590 .Wide..
2614 .Long..
2826 .Long..Stinger In
2834 .Wide..Stinger Out
2949 .Wide..Stinger Out..Overhang
3098 .Wide..Stinger Out
3138 .Long..
3193 .Long..Overhang+
3310 .Long..Stinger Out
3322 .Wide..Stinger Out
3357 .Wide..
3940 .Wide..
3947 .Long..
4334 .Wide..

AlecMataloni 24-06-2012 14:32

Re: 2012 IRI Predictions
 
Mechanical brakes, Stinger in, Overhang+ (robot grabber).

Justin Montois 24-06-2012 20:53

Re: 2012 IRI Predictions
 
340 is Stinger IN

$wimmer3138 25-06-2012 10:20

Re: 2012 IRI Predictions
 
3138 stinger in. Overhang of 13in + bumper :)

JohnSchneider 25-06-2012 10:24

Re: 2012 IRI Predictions
 
We're overhang+ as well, sorry, the system was a tad confusing at first ;)

Jon Jack 25-06-2012 11:45

Re: 2012 IRI Predictions
 
1538 is actually only 34" long (~40.5" with bumpers). Since most of our robot's weight is behind the center wheel, we can hang about 18" (including bumpers) off the ramp. We also have a stinger located just behind the front wheel.

Alexa Stott 25-06-2012 11:55

Re: 2012 IRI Predictions
 
This has turned from a prediction thread to a scouting thread.

Gregor 25-06-2012 19:49

Re: 2012 IRI Predictions
 
STINGER OUT - Stinger of any kind applied outside of frame perimeter (i.e. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yEcf...ailpage#t=268s)
STINGER IN - Stinger of any kind applied inside frame perimeter (i.e. http://youtu.be/Ar6CMCwlW5k)
BRAKES - Braking/stay put system - mechanical brakes, pneumatic pad onto bridge surface, etc.
PID BRAKES - Deserves its own category if no other mechanical braking present, as control stops once match ends.
OVERHANG(+) - Can hang at least 12" of robot off the bridge. Use OVERHANG+ if you have additional features to secure the bot that don't fall into any other category - wood blocks, wedges, tilting arm to affect COG :-), etc.


16 ...Swerve..
25 ...Long..Stinger In..Brakes
27 ...Long..
33 ...Wide..Stinger Out
45 ...Wide..
48 ...Long..Stinger In..Overhang+
51 ...Wide..Stinger In
67 ...Wide..Stinger Out
68 ...Wide..
71 ...Swerve..
111 ..Long..Stinger In..Brakes..Overhang+
118 ..Wide..Stinger In
125 ..Long..
148 ..Wide..Stinger In
192 ..Long..
217 ..Long..Stinger In..Overhang+
233 ..Long..
234 ..Wide..
245 ..Wide..
269 ..wide..
292 ..wide..
330 ..Long..Stinger In
340 ..Long..Stinger In..Overhang+
341 ..Wide..Stinger In..10" Hang..PID Brakes
359 ..Long..
379 ..Long..
399 ..Wide..
447 ..Long..
461 ..Long..Overhang
469 ..Square..Stinger Out
503 ..Mecanum..
548 ..Long..Stinger In..Overhang+
573 ..Long..
624 ..long..
744 ..Long..
772 ..Long..Overhang
781 ..Long..
829 ..Wide..Overhang
868 ..Square..
907 ..Wide..Stinger Out..PID Brakes
973 ..Swerve..Stinger Out..Brakes
1023 .Wide..Stinger Out
1024 .Wide..
1114 .Long..Stinger In, PID Brakes, Overhang+
1538 .Long..Stinger In..Overhang
1592 .Wide..
1640 .Swerve..
1676 .Long..Stinger In
1714 .Wide..
1718 .Wide..Stinger Out..Brakes
1730 .Wide..
1732 .Wide..
1741 .Mecanum..
1902 .Long..
2054 .Long..Stinger Out
2056 .Long..Stinger Out
2168 .Long..Stinger In
2194 .Wide..
2337 .Long..Stinger In..Overhang..Brakes
2590 .Wide..
2614 .Long..
2826 .Long..Stinger In..Overhang+..Brakes
2834 .Wide..Stinger Out
2949 .Wide..Stinger Out..Overhang
3098 .Wide..Stinger Out
3138 .Long..Stinger In..Overhang
3193 .Long..Overhang+
3310 .Long..Stinger Out..Overhang+
3322 .Wide..Stinger Out
3357 .Wide..
3940 .Wide..
3947 .Long..
4334 .Wide..

trilogy2826 25-06-2012 20:25

Re: 2012 IRI Predictions
 
2826:
Stinger in
Long bot-37" (no bumpers)
20" overhang from frame perimeter
Angled brakes push CG toward bridge center
Passive partner "grabber"

LeelandS 25-06-2012 21:47

Re: 2012 IRI Predictions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alexa Stott (Post 1175262)
This has turned from a prediction thread to a scouting thread.

In order to predict, don't we need to know about who we're predicting?

Short answer: Yes.

Long answer: Yeeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssss. ;)

Alexa Stott 26-06-2012 01:03

Re: 2012 IRI Predictions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LeelandS (Post 1175352)
In order to predict, don't we need to know about who we're predicting?

Short answer: Yes.

Long answer: Yeeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssss. ;)

Yet most people who posted in the first half of the thread had no problem making their predictions before this separate discussion was brought up.

Travis Hoffman 26-06-2012 02:42

Re: 2012 IRI Predictions
 
I predict that at least 6 out of the top 8 alliance captains will be non-Longs, and the number 1 alliance, comprised of 4 non-Longs, will win IRI. Discuss.


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