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LeelandS 26-06-2012 09:02

Re: 2012 IRI Predictions
 
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Originally Posted by Alexa Stott (Post 1175381)
Yet most people who posted in the first half of the thread had no problem making their predictions before this separate discussion was brought up.

I wouldn't argue with free scouting data ;) Granted it probably should be in another thread.

Bjenks548 26-06-2012 09:11

Re: 2012 IRI Predictions
 
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Originally Posted by Travis Hoffman (Post 1175387)
I predict that at least 6 out of the top 8 alliance captains will be non-Longs, and the number 1 alliance, comprised of 4 non-Longs, will win IRI. Discuss.

I disagree with the winning alliance having 4 non-Longs. With the 1st, 9th, and last pick, they will take a gamble with either the 9th or last pick. They will take the long bot that fell through the cracks for being long, while still having 3 wide robots if the long is unable to triple.

A different prediction from me, triple balances will be rare early in Quals. As teams gain experience throughout the days, there will be more, by eliminations the last robot will go to the bridge ~15 seconds for the triple.

Clinton Bolinger 26-06-2012 10:46

Re: 2012 IRI Predictions
 
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Originally Posted by Travis Hoffman (Post 1175387)
I predict that at least 6 out of the top 8 alliance captains will be non-Longs, and the number 1 alliance, comprised of 4 non-Longs, will win IRI. Discuss.

You mean MARC all over again?

(Except MARC had 3 Long Bots in the Top 8)

I think 469 will take #1 at IRI. Best intake this season.

-Clinton-

Elizabeth Waters 26-06-2012 10:55

Re: 2012 IRI Predictions
 
624 can overhang about a third of our bot (long bot at max length ~38", therefore a little over a foot can overhang, excluding bumpers).

Tyler Olds 26-06-2012 14:08

Re: 2012 IRI Predictions
 
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Originally Posted by Travis Hoffman (Post 1175387)
I predict that at least 6 out of the top 8 alliance captains will be non-Longs, and the number 1 alliance, comprised of 4 non-Longs, will win IRI. Discuss.

Way to have faith in your own robot :rolleyes: ...........

I actually disagree that longs will not have a chance as the top seeds and it will be more even for the top 8 then 2/8. I believe that many teams who have never worked together will spend too much time trying to triple in qualifications and will miss out on valuable points and/or fail at their attempt.

While I would like to see as many triples as possible in qualifications (including seeing my own team do it), I do not think that we will see a triple all that often where teams were able to start and balance in the last 30 seconds in qualifications (to where I would categorize the 20 points being worthwhile). Though I wonder how busy the practice field will be this year........

Travis Hoffman 26-06-2012 14:22

Re: 2012 IRI Predictions
 
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Originally Posted by Tyler Olds (Post 1175434)
Way to have faith in your own robot :rolleyes: ...........

Maybe we're one of the two. Also...reverse psychology. Shhh...:cool:

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I actually disagree that longs will not have a chance as the top seeds and it will be more even for the top 8 then 2/8. I believe that many teams who have never worked together will spend too much time trying to triple in qualifications and will miss out on valuable points and/or fail.

And then the longs of IRI unite.

JosephC 26-06-2012 23:36

Re: 2012 IRI Predictions
 
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Originally Posted by Clinton Bolinger (Post 1175404)
I think 469 will take #1 at IRI. Best intake this season.

This is a definite possibility, their performance at MARC was astounding. If only they could stop breaking things :rolleyes:

JohnSchneider 27-06-2012 01:40

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Is gambling legal in Indiana? Because if it is, Id wanna put some money on 341. They were extremely consistent all season, and even though they lost in their division, they also helped put up the season-high high-score. Add to that their amazing tipple balance record and adaptability, and you have some good odds.

waialua359 27-06-2012 03:26

Re: 2012 IRI Predictions
 
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Originally Posted by Tyler Olds (Post 1175434)
Way to have faith in your own robot :rolleyes: ...........

I actually disagree that longs will not have a chance as the top seeds and it will be more even for the top 8 then 2/8. I believe that many teams who have never worked together will spend too much time trying to triple in qualifications and will miss out on valuable points and/or fail at their attempt.

While I would like to see as many triples as possible in qualifications (including seeing my own team do it), I do not think that we will see a triple all that often where teams were able to start and balance in the last 30 seconds in qualifications (to where I would categorize the 20 points being worthwhile). Though I wonder how busy the practice field will be this year........

This was about the only concern I had about the rule changes.
They'll need about 2-3 more bridges on the practice field.:)

Travis Hoffman 27-06-2012 04:13

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Originally Posted by waialua359 (Post 1175530)
This was about the only concern I had about the rule changes.
They'll need about 2-3 more bridges on the practice field.:)

Thus ensuring a very congested space filled with moving machinery, increasing the risk of injury - you know how many people are involved in handling cables and "spotting" robots once they're on the bridge. I just foresee nonstop chaos and unequal access at the practice area. If a formal schedule isn't meticulously kept by a bevy of volunteers, and the traffic on the field isn't managed by another bevy, some teams are going to be shut out of the triple practice process (much like they were in St. Louis), and safety will become a huge concern.

Unless the staff establishes a very structured method of controlling practice field access (the six teams in Match #X are scheduled to practice on the field 15 minutes before they are requested to queue, for example), I think they should disallow all triple practice and let teams have at it with nothing but prior event experience to draw from.

Isn't part of the "mystique" of qualifying triples supposed to be the "newness" of it all? Tripling in qualifying is the anti-elimination experience - you're not supposed to have any prior practice - just have at it.

Plus, presuming a team will want to triple attempt with partners more often than not (not necessarily the case for all teams), the thought of spending every possible minute outside of your qualifying matches either on the practice field or waiting to get on it seems....not fun.

whattsheorder 27-06-2012 14:10

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An alliance with 2056, 1114, and some sort of good balancing robot would be outstanding. They had their triple balance down at worlds and would have done it on Einstein if it hadn't have been for the field issues.

Racer26 27-06-2012 17:36

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Something tells me that the Eh team won't be allowed to reunite to take IRI if the other 7 alliances have something to say about it.

akoscielski3 28-06-2012 00:03

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Originally Posted by 1075guy (Post 1175591)
Something tells me that the Eh team won't be allowed to reunite to take IRI if the other 7 alliances have something to say about it.

Its unfortunate, but i think you are correct. 4334 will be picked pretty quickly in the second round. maybe i'm wrong but i dont think soo...

Bjenks548 29-06-2012 11:25

Re: 2012 IRI Predictions
 
I'm curious who people think are the best feeding robots at IRI. Some honnorable mentions from me would be...
16
245
330
2194

Who else has an impressive feeding record?

CalTran 29-06-2012 11:28

Re: 2012 IRI Predictions
 
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Originally Posted by Bjenks548 (Post 1175824)
I'm curious who people think are the best feeding robots at IRI. Some honnorable mentions from me would be...
16
245
330
2194

Who else has an impressive feeding record?

I think that 4334 should also be on this list, as they are designed for the soul purpose of feeding Canadian Powerhouses.


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