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quinxorin 28-06-2012 12:00

FRC Card Deck
 
I'm considering creating a custom, FRC-themed deck of cards. Each card will feature on its face the robot of a 2012 World Champion, World Division Winner, World Chairman's Award Winner, Michigan/MAR Champion, Michigan/MAR Chairman's Award Winners, and various other selected robots, including some Regional Winners and Regional Chairman's Award Winners.

The price should be about $4.75 per deck plus shipping (considerably less if more people order). I can only move ahead if at least 500 decks are ordered.

Who is interested?

Ravage457 28-06-2012 12:11

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Hmmm this sounds intersting

IKE 28-06-2012 12:17

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Sounds like a good kick-starter project. www.kickstarter.com

CalTran 28-06-2012 12:17

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I could go for that. Though, the problem arises in there being 4 sets of each card, but 3 robots per alliance...

Andrew Lawrence 28-06-2012 12:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CalTran (Post 1175675)
I could go for that. Though, the problem arises in there being 4 sets of each card, but 3 robots per alliance...

But there could be the ever so helpful Dean Kamen Wild Card! :P

Sounds interesting. I'd buy one.

sretter 28-06-2012 12:32

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I would be interested(I'm from Israel somight be annoying to ship, but I'm willing to pay extra for shipping)

bardd 28-06-2012 12:54

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I'm intereste, though shipping to Israel would probably be a bit of a headache.

Tristan Lall 28-06-2012 13:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by quinxorin (Post 1175671)
The price should be about $4.75 per deck plus shipping (considerably less if more people order). I can only move ahead if at least 500 decks are ordered.

If you're selling them (especially in those quantities), you'll probably want to either avoid using FIRST's trademarks, or to run this by FIRST for permission. I think the conversation might go more smoothly if you explain whether this is for profit or not.

Also, this reminds me of another famous deck of cards.

TD78 28-06-2012 13:08

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Reminds me of these Team 45 playing cards from (way back) in 2004:

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...=playing+cards

Don't know if they were handing them out all year, but we got a few packs in Atlanta and decided to have some fun getting signatures.

Good luck with your project!

Bjenks548 28-06-2012 13:10

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I would probably buy more then one pack as a way to remeber the senior year in a fun way. I would make each suit a divison.
King-Winning Captain
Queen- Winning First pick
Jack- Winning second pick
10- Finalist Captain
9- Finalist first pick
8- Finalist second pick
7- Higher seed semifinalist captain
6- Higher seed semifinalist first pick
5- Higher seed semifinalist second pick
4- Lower seed semifinalist captain
3- Lower seed semifinalist first pick
2- Lower seed semifinalist second pick
Ace- The scientist the division is named after (Newton/Curie...)

quinxorin 28-06-2012 13:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CalTran (Post 1175675)
I could go for that. Though, the problem arises in there being 4 sets of each card, but 3 robots per alliance...

That's where the Chairman's Award teams come in. For example, I was going to make the Aces the three World Champions and the World Chairman's Award Winner. The Kings, Queens, and Jacks would be the three Division Champions; the fourth card of each suit and three of the Tens cards would be the Michigan and MAR Champions, in no particular order.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tristan Lall (Post 1175686)
If you're selling them (especially in those quantities), you'll probably want to either avoid using FIRST's trademarks, or to run this by FIRST for permission. I think the conversation might go more smoothly if you explain whether this is for profit or not.

Also, this reminds me of another famous deck of cards.

That definitely seems like an important step. And yep, I was thinking the same thing.

PAR_WIG1350 28-06-2012 13:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperNerd256 (Post 1175678)
But there could be the ever so helpful Dean Kamen Wild Card! :P

Sounds interesting. I'd buy one.

Or the Dave Lavery joker:D . It isn't too helpful since most card games exclude jokers, but when you do use it, the people around you will start thinking that the card must be a game hint and quit the game to try to figure out what it means.

ratdude747 28-06-2012 13:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tristan Lall (Post 1175686)

Also, this reminds me of another famous deck of cards.

I have one of those (and I do use them). Might not be the "real" ones though... they were bought in a clear plastic case at convenience store back in the day (I was a kid, it was a present for an A on a test).

edit- I think they are authentic...

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I'd probably buy a deck...

Here is my suggestion for the face cards:

Aces are the last 4 chairmans winners, with spades being the most recent, 1114.

10's could be the previous 4 after...

Otherwise:

Spades: Winning division (K is captain, Q 1st pic, J 2nd pick)
Hearts: Finalist division
Clubs and diamonds: Other two divisions

The other cards could be interesting... maybe past WWFAs or WEIs could be snuck in somehow.

I personally wouldn't include MSCs in there, as This isn't a "FRC in michigan" deck.

Oh, and the jokers (assuming a 2 joker deck) would be Dean Kamen and Woodie Flowers :D

And the box? Perhaps "Dozer" ... :D

Peter Matteson 28-06-2012 14:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ratdude747 (Post 1175695)
Aces are the last 4 chairmans winners, with spades being the most recent, 1114.

Ummmm....

Isn't it ovious Aces High (176) has to be an Ace in the deck on principle.

51 Robots have won the championship...

8 Teams have 2 or more championships...

6 Winning robots each were sponsered by UTC & GM (UTC: 173, 176, 177x2, 296, 180 / GM: 65, 66, 67x3, 1114 / Beatty Machine Tool is next at 4...)

You're pretty close right there to having a way to set up a deck by winners and major sponsers.

Andrew Lawrence 28-06-2012 15:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Matteson (Post 1175700)
Ummmm....

Isn't it ovious Aces High (176) has to be an Ace in the deck on principle.

I was thinking 987 would be the Ace of Spades because of their 2012 robot.

Tom Line 28-06-2012 15:32

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Dave Lavery's face needs to be on one of the jokers....

Travis Hoffman 28-06-2012 15:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PAR_WIG1350 (Post 1175692)
Or the Dave Lavery joker:D

Pimp Joker

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JosephC 28-06-2012 22:19

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I'd buy one, maybe 5 depending on how I feel.

Peyton Yeung 28-06-2012 22:43

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I'm interested

Dorr 29-06-2012 08:18

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there is a Joker in the deck? :p

capnrmorgan 29-06-2012 09:04

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Found this link CARD (Collegiate Aerial Robotics Display!) I didn't attend the Championships, and wished I did! I will plan to go next year as a spectator or as a participant!:D. I would have liked to see this!

My 2 cents for what its worth:
Girls of FIRST playing cards featuring the girls on teams! (not what your thinking...) Mentors of FIRST working from King- Dean Kamen, Joker- Dave Lavery and others. Contact Logo Loc (FIRST Store) they may want to offer a deck of cards with FIRST logos on them and your ideas on the other side!

Meshbeard 29-06-2012 09:20

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I'd buy one. Also, I suggest replacing the suits with Championship Divisions.

quinxorin 29-06-2012 20:54

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I checked with FIRST, I am allowed to use the logo on the back of the cards! Yay! I am also going to take someone's suggestion and use Kickstarter - unfortunately, it takes days for it to be set up. So...waiting...

R.C. 29-06-2012 21:38

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I'm in for one!

-RC

rachelholladay 29-06-2012 21:57

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I'd be interested. Perhaps look outside Michigan/MAR too.

RandomStyuff 30-06-2012 07:23

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I'd actually do it more chronologically.
Have each year be the winning teams of that year, going back with the years.
For example having the kings be the winners of this year, plus the chairmans winner. The queens that of last year, and so on. Once you get back to 2004 and the days with 2 robots per alliance, you can add remarkable robots, WFA winners, or even gamepieces.

I think that would bear more time resistance than a deck that's specific to this year.

mjustice66 30-06-2012 09:30

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I really want a deck or 2 can't wait to see them finished.

quinxorin 30-06-2012 18:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rachelholladay (Post 1175895)
I'd be interested. Perhaps look outside Michigan/MAR too.

Don't worry, I will!

DominickC 30-06-2012 21:24

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:ahh: I'll buy some!

Libby K 02-07-2012 11:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tristan Lall (Post 1175686)
If you're selling them (especially in those quantities), you'll probably want to either avoid using FIRST's trademarks, or to run this by FIRST for permission. I think the conversation might go more smoothly if you explain whether this is for profit or not.

Thank you for adding this. Marketing@usfirst.org is where you want to go to ask for permission. As long as you follow the branding standards FIRST lays out for you, (http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprogr...ng-tools/brand) you should be fine. The basic rules are, don't alter the logo, keep it unobstructed by other graphics, and don't make a profit off the logo.

EDIT:
Quote:

Originally Posted by quinxorin (Post 1175890)
I checked with FIRST, I am allowed to use the logo on the back of the cards! Yay! I am also going to take someone's suggestion and use Kickstarter - unfortunately, it takes days for it to be set up. So...waiting...

Whoops, you did this already.


Additionally, you might want to ask the TEAMS you plan on featuring if it's okay to use their robots. And if you use anyone else's photos other than your own, ask for permission. It's not nice to take others' work. (This could be solved in one-shot by contacting the teams, asking for their permission and a photo of their choice to be used on the card.)

All of that aside, I'd totally buy a few. I think even FIRST's offices would think it's a cool thing to have! They'd make great giveaways.

TPNigl 02-07-2012 15:40

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I'd definitely buy one too!

CurseofDragon33 02-07-2012 18:19

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I would like to order two if I can. Thank you.

quinxorin 02-07-2012 20:05

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Alright, so I've worked out some of the teams for the cards. I like the idea of going back in time a few years with the Chairman's award winners - they will be the four aces - but for the rest of the cards, I think that 2012 would be better, because if I featured several year's worth of robots, too many great robots would go unrecognized. Below is the table, but I can't seem to find a good list of the Einstein participants anywhere. I might have had a great seat in the finals, due to a mix-up with the awards (long story), but 12 teams is far too much to remember. Where can I find a list? I assume one is on CD somewhere.

I need help with the rest! What teams out there have done extremely well? What teams have pulled off the impossible? I'm afraid I don't know that much about the exploits outside of Michigan - I need help.

p.s. 862 was my team, and 3322 will be; they get the Joker spots. That is, unless people feel their exploits were good enough to get them promoted...

Kickstarter should be up and running in a week or so.

Aidan S. 02-07-2012 20:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by quinxorin (Post 1176085)
Below is the table, but I can't seem to find a good list of the Einstein participants anywhere. I might have had a great seat in the finals, due to a mix-up with the awards (long story), but 12 teams is far too much to remember. Where can I find a list? I assume one is on CD somewhere

The 2012 Einstein teams, in order of captain, first pick, and second pick, are:

Archimedes:
2056
1114
4334

Curie:
233
987
207

Galileo:
180
25
16

Newton:
548
118
2194

I hope this helps!

EricH 02-07-2012 20:23

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I can get you some of a list. I'm using the FIRST divisional results. I'll pull the winners and finalists from each division in case a winner is accounted for elsewhere. (At the event, the Finalist teams from each division are the backups for the winners. One chance to pull a randomly chosen one if you haven't already used the backup team card.)

2056, 1114, 4334, Archimedes (alias the Eh-Team). With 1114 already showing up due to the Chairman's, you could pull in the backups, any one of 2826, 67, 4143. (With the setup you have shown, I'd pull 2826 in as 67 is elsewhere already.)

233, 987, 207, Curie. Backups 341, 254, 78. World Finalists.

180, 25, 16, Galileo. Backups 231, 744, 1714. World Champions.

548, 118, 2194, Newton. Backups 68, 330, 639.


In other news: 326 has yet to win the Championship Chairman's Award. I think you're looking for 842. (Or 236. Or 365. My time memory is a bit fuzzy on the CCA.)

If you're doing a 2012 deck, 1717, 365 (if they're not already included by virtue of CCA), and 1551 (get a still of them sniping an incoming shot out of the air) should be included. I think there's another MAR team that did really well, but I can't remember who. I just remember it being a tossup between them and 365 (or was it 341?).

quinxorin 02-07-2012 20:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Aidan S. (Post 1176087)
The 2012 Einstein teams, in order of captain, first pick, and second pick, are:

Archimedes:
2056
1114
4334

Curie:
233
987
207

Galileo:
180
25
16

Newton:
548
118
2194

I hope this helps!

Perfect!

Aidan S. 02-07-2012 20:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1176088)
In other news: 326 has yet to win the Championship Chairman's Award. I think you're looking for 842. (Or 236. Or 365. My time memory is a bit fuzzy on the CCA).

236 won the CCA in 2009, 842 won it in 2008.

quinxorin 02-07-2012 20:33

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Yep - 236.

Aidan S. 02-07-2012 20:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by quinxorin (Post 1176085)
What teams out there have done extremely well? What teams have pulled off the impossible? I'm afraid I don't know that much about the exploits outside of Michigan - I need help.

I think that the teams that set the world high score for rebound rumble should get mentioned here. In Curie semifinal 1-2, the alliance of 341, 254, and 78 scored 128 points. In that match 254 scored a ball in hybrid from their alliance bridge, the alliance put up a total of 37 hybrid points, and the alliance triple balanced. All three of these feats are impressive as well, and here is a link to a video of the match: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0Tb4dP2RmA

rachelholladay 02-07-2012 21:19

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If you are looking for great robot teams, maybe look at FRCTop25? That might be a good place to start..
As far as great RCA teams, there was a CD thread with a spreadsheet on teams who have won it multiple times (http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...3&postcount=42) Perhaps look at people (insert number)-peated. For example, I am think FRC1311 has won RCA at peachtree the for past 3 years.

TrevorJ 02-07-2012 21:26

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Cool, looks like I get to play Euchre with my team according to this card scheme.

Eagleeyedan 03-07-2012 11:56

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I'd love to have one!:D

HannahF 03-07-2012 13:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1176088)
I think there's another MAR team that did really well, but I can't remember who. I just remember it being a tossup between them and 365 (or was it 341?).

I think you might be thinking of 1218, who going into MAR champs had won two districts with 341, a district chairman's award, and finished as a MAR Championship Finalist as an alliance captain.



I would definitely be interested in buying a pack of these.

~Hannah

EricH 03-07-2012 13:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HannahF (Post 1176169)
I think you might be thinking of 1218, who going into MAR champs had won two districts with 341, a district chairman's award, and finished as a MAR Championship Finalist as an alliance captain.

That's the one! I remembered the discussion from earlier in the season.

quinxorin 06-07-2012 16:25

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Alright, Kickstarter (actually, Amazon Payments) is being annoying. I don't know when I'll have it ready.

quinxorin 11-07-2012 21:12

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Alright, Amazon Payments finally approved my account! Now, I'm just waiting on Kickstarter to approve my project.

Zebra_Fact_Man 12-07-2012 13:27

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I second the notion of suits being divisions.
Also, are robot images going on these cards (hope so), and if so, where are you getting these pics from?

Do post results.

quinxorin 13-07-2012 10:26

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Yes - so far, I've been asking the teams.

The Kickstarter project is finally live!

So that the link will be at the top, I've decided to start a new thread here.

Or, go to
The project's Kickstarter Page


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