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MARS_James 03-07-2012 17:55

paper: FRC World Rankings 2012
 
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FRC World Rankings 2012 by MARS_James

Skinkworks 03-07-2012 17:57

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How was this created? Would it be possible to get a csv or other computer-readable form of this? This is cool, it would be nice to be able to get more information from this.

stundt1 03-07-2012 19:00

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But Qs contains coopertition score. I would have to say that its not a valid way to rank teams ability.

Also, If you had a tough schedule it would affect your ranking dramatically. For example if you had 2-3 powerhouse teams on the opposite alliance against you.

Its hard to accurately rank all the frc team's...

Edit: But by firsts ranking system it looks accurate.

Ether 03-07-2012 19:36

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http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=106177





MARS_James 03-07-2012 21:33

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I made this is a ranking based on how you did at the competition not based on power so since FIRST ranked us with Coopertition so did I

I am making another with every teams combined efforts averaged so while I am doing that I will also make one eliminating CP so we are only ranked based on your QS minus CP then according to how you did in HP BP and TP

stundt1 03-07-2012 22:08

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I get what you mean its perfect if your going by the first ranking system.

JB987 03-07-2012 22:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MARS_James (Post 1176222)
I made this is a ranking based on how you did at the competition not based on power so since FIRST ranked us with Coopertition so did I

I am making another with every teams combined efforts averaged so while I am doing that I will also make one eliminating CP so we are only ranked based on your QS minus CP then according to how you did in HP BP and TP

Consider adding all qualifying matches over the season together for an over-all average. In this case I think I know which team would rank #1:D

gracie. 03-07-2012 22:16

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how do you put together a ranking sheet like this?

MARS_James 03-07-2012 22:47

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Originally Posted by gracie. (Post 1176229)
how do you put together a ranking sheet like this?

I went through the standings of each regional/district event copied them in excel made a quick auto function to divide the QS by matches played sorted them by that then did the same during ties for HP BP and TP

All in all not hard work but very tedious

Bjenks548 05-07-2012 13:30

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Does this not include championship data? If so there's an error with 548, we got 34QS in 9 matches on Newton. (3.77 points per match)

MARS_James 05-07-2012 13:34

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It doesn't include Finals only regionals and district events (including district championships)

Peyton Yeung 05-07-2012 23:22

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Wow...2738...we are one of the oldest teams and our rank is so low. I guess it's just inspiration to do better next year :)

Ed Law 06-07-2012 00:48

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Originally Posted by Tubatroopa (Post 1176328)
Wow...2738...we are one of the oldest teams and our rank is so low. I guess it's just inspiration to do better next year :)

Don't forget that this is a ranking of every team for every time they attended a competition. There were only 2332 teams that attended at least one event but there were a total of 3361 in this ranking.
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Originally Posted by Ether (Post 1176208)

Ether, this is not an OPR ranking. It is a ranking of how well teams played to the seeding system in each district/regional and normalized to the number of matches they played. A team has to win most of their matches and also be on alliances that did a lot of coop bridges successfully to do well in this ranking. The title World Rankings in this post is a little misleading. Just as the seeding system this year is not a true ranking of how strong a team is. This sorted list follows the same logic and is not a true ranking of strength. However I have to admit that the teams on the top of this list who gets more than 3 out of the max of 4 QS pts per match definitely are exceptional teams.

Ether 06-07-2012 07:47

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Originally Posted by Ed Law (Post 1176333)
Ether, this is not an OPR ranking.

Thanks Ed, I fully realized that.

Quote:

It is a ranking of how well teams played to the seeding system in each district/regional and normalized to the number of matches they played.
Yes, that was made clear in the summary description of the paper linked in the original post.

Quote:

The title World Rankings in this post is a little misleading.
Agreed. That's why I posted the link, for a different point of view.



MARS_James 07-07-2012 16:24

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I added the combined rankings from every regional so every team is only listed once next I will be doing the QS without CP for everyone only being listed once

I may do a final one with rankings from nationals

Camren 11-07-2012 08:52

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Am I opening it in the wrong format? Can i open it in a spreadsheet so I can search for my team or do I have to look through thousands of numbers to find my team?

IndySam 11-07-2012 09:00

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Originally Posted by Camren (Post 1176910)
Am I opening it in the wrong format? Can i open it in a spreadsheet so I can search for my team or do I have to look through thousands of numbers to find my team?

You can do searches with acrobat reader.

tr6scott 11-07-2012 12:15

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<CTRL> and "F" at the same time... is your friend.

Camren 11-07-2012 21:38

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Thanks guys. also if you would have included offseason events i think 3081 would be almost in the top 1000 seeing as we seeded 2nd and placed 2nd and scored alot more points then are 2 season events

sprocketman92 12-07-2012 13:00

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So i'm confused my team is 3947 and i was wondering if somebody could tell me what these rankings mean for my team. Thanks:confused:

Ether 12-07-2012 13:39

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Originally Posted by sprocketman92 (Post 1177029)
So i'm confused my team is 3947 and i was wondering if somebody could tell me what these rankings mean for my team. Thanks:confused:

"Rankings are determined by your Qualification Score divided by the number of matches played at that event."

It's just for fun. This metric of your team's rank doesn't officially mean anything for your team.



IndySam 12-07-2012 13:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sprocketman92 (Post 1177029)
So i'm confused my team is 3947 and i was wondering if somebody could tell me what these rankings mean for my team. Thanks:confused:

It means your team is awesome and I can't wait to see you guys at IRI.


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