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akoscielski3 10-03-2013 21:29

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MARS_James (Post 1246164)
My new week 1 totals after the elimination matches were added:

The Yellow Alliance............965
Canadian Bacon +1 + Joe....923
Peach Alliance...................863
TeamRUSH........................828
Team Awesome Blossom......822
Beastly As My Fajitas..........772
Team Paradise...................752
Team Pascack...................725
Falcon.............................723
Rusty bucket o bolts..........707
LTownThrowdown..............699
Team 2............................673
The Machine.....................637
X-Cats.............................621
Team Flippin' The Greatest...579
PureMichigan.....................578
The Fellowship of the Fez....567

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Wish Canadian Bacon +1 +Joe had 772... but it's okay I'd rather be in 2nd :P

MARS_James 11-03-2013 14:12

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Trying to score Oregon and I can't find what team the Dean's List winners came from

Gregor 11-03-2013 14:17

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MARS_James (Post 1246583)
Trying to score Oregon and I can't find what team the Dean's List winners came from

As per this post, teams 4488 and 2250.

MARS_James 11-03-2013 14:30

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gregor (Post 1246586)
As per this post, teams 4488 and 2250.

That is my problem 2250 did not attend Oregon nor any regional since 2010

PVCpirate 11-03-2013 15:15

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Just wanted to note that Northern lights scores are still missing the Woodie Flowers award. I don't think I'll be able to find it at this point, there is no thread for that event on CD.

Jay O'Donnell 11-03-2013 15:24

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PVCpirate (Post 1246615)
Just wanted to note that Northern lights scores are still missing the Woodie Flowers award. I don't think I'll be able to find it at this point, there is no thread for that event on CD.

According to the tracker it went to someone with no affiliation to a team.

Gregor 11-03-2013 15:34

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay Money 1058 (Post 1246625)
According to the tracker it went to someone with no affiliation to a team.

I wonder who wrote the application.

Jay O'Donnell 11-03-2013 16:15

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MARS_James (Post 1246583)
Trying to score Oregon and I can't find what team the Dean's List winners came from

The tracker just has one winner, and their team is left blank. Not sure what to think of it.

PVCpirate 11-03-2013 17:31

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
The Woodie Flowers applications carry over year to year, so they probably were on a team when it was sent in. I guess no one gets the points and the scores are correct.

Anthony Galea 11-03-2013 22:03

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LeelandS (Post 1242717)
That's really odd... The FIRST Website just has a blank spot next to Rookie All-Star.

If I had to guess, it's because there was only one rookie at this event. I don't think I've ever seen an event where a rookie won all three rookie awards. Moreover, I don't think FIRST wanted to give a team an instant spot at championships by default.

We won all three in 2010 Detroit District (Default)

EricH 11-03-2013 22:40

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 3175student17 (Post 1246839)
We won all three in 2010 Detroit District (Default)

Normally, you'd have only won 2, and I'm pretty certain I've got the data to back that up somewhere.

Normal procedure (and it's happened this season, at another event) is that if there is only one rookie team, they get RAS and Highest Rookie Seed. This year is the first time I've seen a lone rookie get Rookie Inspiration, and the only thing I can come up with as a reasonable explanation is that they better fit Rookie Inspiration than RAS.

Chris is me 12-03-2013 01:37

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PVCpirate (Post 1246720)
The Woodie Flowers applications carry over year to year, so they probably were on a team when it was sent in. I guess no one gets the points and the scores are correct.

The Woodie Flowers Award entries do, not the Woodie Flowers Finalist Award entries. Once your team has a WFFA, you can submit them for WFA every year. But WFFA essays aren't repeatedly entered every year.

PVCpirate 12-03-2013 09:23

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
oh, my mistake

MARS_James 12-03-2013 23:13

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
So here are the week 2 Scores:

Canadian Bacon +1 + Joe....1134
The Yellow Alliance..............977
X-Cats..............................959
Peach Alliance....................945
Team 2.............................922
Team Paradise....................879
Rusty bucket o bolts............828
Team Flippin' The Greatest....808
Team Awesome Blossom........806
PureMichigan.......................790
The Fellowship of the Fez......768
Falcon...............................767
LTownThrowdown ................755
TeamRUSH..........................745
Team Pascack.....................739
The Machine.......................735
Beastly As My Fajitas...........687

And now the updated combined rankings:

Canadian Bacon +1 + Joe......2057
The Yellow Alliance..............1942
Peach Alliance....................1815
Team Paradise....................1631
Team Awesome Blossom.......1628
Team 2.............................1595
X-Cats..............................1580
TeamRUSH.........................1573
Rusty bucket o bolts............1535
Falcon...............................1490
Team Pascack.....................1464
Beastly As My Fajitas...........1459
LTownThrowdown ................1454
Team Flippin' The Greatest.....1387
The Machine.......................1372
PureMichigan.......................1368
The Fellowship of the Fez......1335

Remember next week I will also be posting the MAR and FiM rankings as well

nikeairmancurry 12-03-2013 23:52

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Maybe I'm slow and missed something, but are FiM and MAR events points added here also?

Gregor 12-03-2013 23:54

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nikeairmancurry (Post 1247444)
Maybe I'm slow and missed something, but are FiM and MAR events points added here also?

Read the last line of the post :rolleyes:

nikeairmancurry 12-03-2013 23:57

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gregor (Post 1247447)
Read the last line of the post :rolleyes:

I understood that Gregor, it's more of less why are they posted by themselves..

akoscielski3 13-03-2013 00:05

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
can we lose one point please? I kinda want to have OP Robotics... ;)

PVCpirate 13-03-2013 00:05

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
It decides the draft order for MSC and MARC, in the same way total ranking does for the CMP divisions. And I'm pretty sure those events are also included in these rankings.

nikeairmancurry 13-03-2013 00:12

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PVCpirate (Post 1247453)
It decides the draft order for MSC and MARC, in the same way total ranking does for the CMP divisions. And I'm pretty sure those events are also included in these rankings.

Alright. Makes a lot of sense.

iPenguin 13-03-2013 00:19

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
James, did you include Israel? They finished Tuesday, but I didn't see the individual threads updated.

Gregor 13-03-2013 00:20

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by akoscielski3 (Post 1247452)
can we lose one point please? I kinda want to have OP Robotics... ;)

No.

PVCpirate 13-03-2013 10:21

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iPenguin (Post 1247459)
James, did you include Israel? They finished Tuesday, but I didn't see the individual threads updated.

No because I haven't scored it yet. I'm doing it this morning. I don't know if James will post scores through Israel or just wait until the end of w.eek 3

MARS_James 13-03-2013 10:36

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iPenguin (Post 1247459)
James, did you include Israel? They finished Tuesday, but I didn't see the individual threads updated.

No I did not, I am putting them in week 3, hence why they weren't listed when I listed all the week 2 events in a previous post.

EricH 13-03-2013 19:59

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Now hear this. Now hear this.

The Blue Alliance may show teams attending events when the FIRST site does not, and vice versa. The Season Long Fantasy FIRST League only uses the official FIRST lists. Therefore, all claims for 217 in St. Joseph are denied until someone can post an official FIRST list for St. Joseph with 217 on it.

That is all.

Koko Ed 13-03-2013 20:01

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1247798)
Now hear this. Now hear this.

The Blue Alliance may show teams attending events when the FIRST site does not, and vice versa. The Season Long Fantasy FIRST League only uses the official FIRST lists. Therefore, all claims for 217 in St. Joseph are denied until someone can post an official FIRST list for St. Joseph with 217 on it.

That is all.

Don't see them listed officially. So any claim to them is denied so speaks the commish!

MARS_James 13-03-2013 21:11

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Falcon pointed out to me that Oregon was not included for the scores for week 2, I don't know how my sheet didn't calculate them but just to make everything easier here are the week 2 scores WITH Oregon and Israel.

Canadian Bacon +1 + Joe.........1234
The Yellow Alliance.................1190
X-Cats.................................1165
Peach Alliance.......................1143
Team 2................................1125
Team Flippin' The Greatest......1001
Team Paradise........................993
Rusty bucket o bolts................970
Team Awesome Blossom...........913
The Machine..........................899
Falcon..................................889
PureMichigan.........................889
Beastly As My Fajitas..............870
TeamRUSH............................869
Team Pascack.......................856
The Fellowship of the Fez........838
LTownThrowdown ..................838

And now the updated combined scores:

Canadian Bacon +1 + Joe..........2157
The Yellow Alliance..................2155
Peach Alliance........................2013
Team 2.................................1798
X-Cats..................................1786
Team Paradise........................1745
Team Awesome Blossom...........1735
TeamRUSH.............................1697
Rusty bucket o bolts................1677
Beastly As My Fajitas...............1642
Falcon...................................1612
Team Pascack.........................1581
Team Flippin' The Greatest.........1580
LTownThrowdown ....................1537
The Machine...........................1536
PureMichigan...........................1467
The Fellowship of the Fez..........1405

I am glad for all the feedback and understanding since this is my first time doing this.

Basel A 13-03-2013 23:09

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
James, you're awesome for doing this. Thanks so much!

MARS_James 18-03-2013 13:58

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
So as I wait for the other events I assigned to be scored I have scored all of FiM and MAR so here are the rankings after week 3:

First FiM Rankings:

Peach Alliance...................855
TeamRUSH........................801
The Yellow Alliance.............764
Team 2.............................696
Team Paradise....................657
Team Awesome Blossom........630
Falcon...............................604
Beastly As My Fajitas............591
Canadian Bacon +1 + Joe.......550
PureMichigan.......................507
Team Pascack......................496
The Fellowship of the Fez.......493
X-Cats................................491
LTownThrowdown .................475
Rusty bucket o bolts..............452
Team Flippin' The Greatest......441
The Machine.........................404

Now MAR:

Beastly As My Fajitas.........392
The Fellowship of the Fez....368
The Machine.....................350
Team Flippin' The Greatest...349
PureMichigan.....................345
LTownThrowdown ..............324
Canadian Bacon +1 + Joe.....320
Team Pascack....................317
Team Paradise....................309
The Yellow Alliance..............307
Peach Alliance.....................299
Team 2..............................263
Falcon...............................257
X-Cats...............................253
Team Awesome Blossom........253
TeamRUSH..........................243
Rusty bucket o bolts.............168

PVCpirate 18-03-2013 16:39

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
I'm working on it, I should be done by Wednesday night. There's this thing called college that's keeping me a bit occupied.

On a related note, I realized an issue with the spreadsheet I'm using for scoring, and the Israel scores are somewhat inaccurate. When I changed it to take account for elimination wins more easily, I didn't use the correct point values for those wins. The Israel tiers will be updated sometime tonight, and the rest of my week 3 scores will be done correctly.

MARS_James 18-03-2013 16:48

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PVCpirate (Post 1249803)
There's this thing called college that's keeping me a bit occupied.

No problem last week you were way ahead of me in scoring for the same reason. School comes before scoring, just like it should come before robotics ;)

PVCpirate 18-03-2013 23:17

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Due to impending snow, my classes got cancelled for tomorrow, so I suddenly have plenty of time on my hands. As a result, Israel is fixed, and the rest of the week 3 scores are forthcoming tonight and tomorrow morning.

MARS_James 19-03-2013 08:08

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
So here are the week 3 rankings:

PureMichigan.....................1364
Peach Alliance...................1284
Team 2............................1249
Beastly As My Fajitas.........1223
The Yellow Alliance............1193
The Fellowship of the Fez...1182
TeamRUSH.......................1148
Team Awesome Blossom.....1080
Team Pascack..................1079
The Machine....................1056
Team Paradise..................1046
Falcon..............................971
X-Cats.............................932
Team Flippin' The Greatest...932
LTownThrowdown ..............915
Rusty bucket o bolts...........896
Canadian Bacon +1 + Joe.....829

Week 1-3 combined rankings:

The Yellow Alliance.............3352
Peach Alliance...................3303
Team 2............................3049
Canadian Bacon +1 + Joe....2986
Beastly As My Fajitas.........2869
TeamRUSH.......................2845
PureMichigan....................2831
Team Awesome Blossom.....2817
Team Paradise..................2797
X-Cats............................2722
Team Pascack..................2660
The Machine....................2598
Falcon............................2589
The Fellowship of the Fez..2587
Rusty bucket o bolts.........2575
Team Flippin' The Greatest..2522
LTownThrowdown .............2452

Koko Ed 19-03-2013 10:58

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MARS_James (Post 1250097)
So here are the week 3 rankings:

PureMichigan.....................1364
Peach Alliance...................1284
Team 2............................1249
Beastly As My Fajitas.........1223
The Yellow Alliance............1193
The Fellowship of the Fez...1182
TeamRUSH.......................1148
Team Awesome Blossom.....1080
Team Pascack..................1079
The Machine....................1056
Team Paradise..................1046
Falcon..............................971
X-Cats.............................932
Team Flippin' The Greatest...932
LTownThrowdown ..............915
Rusty bucket o bolts...........896
Canadian Bacon +1 + Joe.....829

Week 1-3 combined rankings:

The Yellow Alliance.............3352
Peach Alliance...................3303
Team 2............................3049
Canadian Bacon +1 + Joe....2986
Beastly As My Fajitas.........2869
TeamRUSH.......................2845
PureMichigan....................2831
Team Awesome Blossom.....2817
Team Paradise..................2797
X-Cats............................2722
Team Pascack..................2660
The Machine....................2598
Falcon............................2589
The Fellowship of the Fez..2587
Rusty bucket o bolts.........2575
Team Flippin' The Greatest..2522
LTownThrowdown .............2452

The Districts sunk my battleship!

Gregor 19-03-2013 20:50

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 1250131)
The Districts sunk my battleship!

Week 3 boo

Zach O 26-03-2013 09:58

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Any idea when Week 4 rankings will be up?

MARS_James 26-03-2013 11:11

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zach O (Post 1252881)
Any idea when Week 4 rankings will be up?

Should start appearing today, I ironically just got back from Waterloo today due to issues with my passport.

IKE 26-03-2013 12:59

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MARS_James (Post 1252934)
Should start appearing today, I ironically just got back from Waterloo today due to issues with my passport.

I hope you didn't tell the officers you were from Jupiter...:p

PVCpirate 26-03-2013 13:15

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zach O (Post 1252881)
Any idea when Week 4 rankings will be up?

I'm starting my scoring this afternoon, hoping to be done by tonight.

MARS_James 26-03-2013 23:58

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by IKE (Post 1252976)
I hope you didn't tell the officers you were from Jupiter...:p

Actually that was part of the problem when I got my passport at 15 my home was in North Palm Beach, but when I got my license at 16 my neighborhood had been annexed into Jupiter. So my ID didn't match and they wouldn't let me back into USA.

PVCpirate 27-03-2013 14:49

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Does anyone know the teams for the Central Washington Dean's list finalists?

Brandon_L 27-03-2013 18:37

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Anyone have an idea of when scores will be posted for week 4?

EricH 27-03-2013 18:42

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brandon_L (Post 1253598)
Anyone have an idea of when scores will be posted for week 4?

Asked yesterday, and the estimate was that they should start popping up last night. I therefore expect a full score count tonight.

PVCpirate 28-03-2013 16:32

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
This is mostly for James, but for everyone else too. I fixed a couple of scoring errors on Montreal. As a result the following corrections should be made to the total scores:

Falcon +16
LTownThrowdown+2
Rusty Bucket O' Bolts+14

MARS_James 28-03-2013 19:13

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1253604)
Asked yesterday, and the estimate was that they should start popping up last night. I therefore expect a full score count tonight.

I am really happy with all your patience with FF this week to everyone, I know it must be frustrating to not have the events scored quickly, and now especially before the next week, I will try my best to get them all scored tonight as I just got back from South Florida with my team. I will make sure this does not happen for the remainder of the season and will be sure to have this week scored expediently.

Andrew Lawrence 28-03-2013 19:30

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MARS_James (Post 1254008)
I am really happy with all your patience with FF this week to everyone, I know it must be frustrating to not have the events scored quickly, and now especially before the next week, I will try my best to get them all scored tonight as I just got back from South Florida with my team. I will make sure this does not happen for the remainder of the season and will be sure to have this week scored expediently.

Actually, we should be thanking you, James, for volunteering your time to score the FF rounds during the busy competition season! You and the rest of the scorers are what make this competition possible.

bam-bam 28-03-2013 19:55

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Lawrence (Post 1254009)
Actually, we should be thanking you, James, for volunteering your time to score the FF rounds during the busy competition season! You and the rest of the scorers are what make this competition possible.

I'll back up Andrew's claim here.

I can speak for everyone here, I feel- we know that you are busy with 1523's activities, and unfortunately that takes away some time from FF. We're okay with the scores being slightly late when you are busy. Regardless, we still have to thank you for putting in time for running the drafts and scoring. It's not always something easy to pull off.

Koko Ed 01-04-2013 11:17

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
You are doing a great job, James.
After this upcoming week we'll need the standings updated for the twoo district championship drafts. I think I'll use the respsective standings for the "random" list instead of OPR.

MARS_James 02-04-2013 19:16

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
So sorry for the delay but here is the week 4 rankings as I work on week 5

The Yellow Alliance...............1932
PureMichigan ......................1830
Peach Alliance......................1661
Team Flippin' The Greatest......1561
Team 2................................1443
The Fellowship of the Fez .......1397
TeamRUSH............................1355
Beastly As My Fajitas...............1326
Team Paradise........................1316
Rusty bucket o bolts...............1287
The Machine..........................1239
Falcon..................................1173
X-Cats..................................1114
Team Awesome Blossom...........1104
Team Pascack........................1086
Canadian Bacon +1 + Joe.........1083
LTownThrowdown ....................947

and now the combined rankings:

The Yellow Alliance.............5284
Peach Alliance...................4964
PureMichigan ...................4661
Team 2...........................4492
TeamRUSH......................4200
Beastly As My Fajitas.........4195
Team Paradise..................4113
Team Flippin' The Greatest...4083
Canadian Bacon +1 + Joe.....4069
The Fellowship of the Fez ....3984
Team Awesome Blossom.......3921
Rusty bucket o bolts............3862
The Machine.......................3837
X-Cats..............................3836
Falcon..............................3762
Team Pascack....................3746
LTownThrowdown..............,,3399


Now I will continue scoring the week 5 events, and in order to expedite the drafting for MAR and FiM I will score and post the rankings for each event the night that the districts finish, so Saturday for FiM and Sunday for MAR

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 1255512)
I think I'll use the respsective standings for the "random" list instead of OPR.

Do you mean the listings for most points in the district (IE how the districts give them points) or do you want something from me the statement confused me

Koko Ed 02-04-2013 21:14

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MARS_James (Post 1256401)
So sorry for the delay but here is the week 4 rankings as I work on week 5

The Yellow Alliance...............1932
PureMichigan ......................1830
Peach Alliance......................1661
Team Flippin' The Greatest......1561
Team 2................................1443
The Fellowship of the Fez .......1397
TeamRUSH............................1355
Beastly As My Fajitas...............1326
Team Paradise........................1316
Rusty bucket o bolts...............1287
The Machine..........................1239
Falcon..................................1173
X-Cats..................................1114
Team Awesome Blossom...........1104
Team Pascack........................1086
Canadian Bacon +1 + Joe.........1083
LTownThrowdown ....................947

and now the combined rankings:

The Yellow Alliance.............5284
Peach Alliance...................4964
PureMichigan ...................4661
Team 2...........................4492
TeamRUSH......................4200
Beastly As My Fajitas.........4195
Team Paradise..................4113
Team Flippin' The Greatest...4083
Canadian Bacon +1 + Joe.....4069
The Fellowship of the Fez ....3984
Team Awesome Blossom.......3921
Rusty bucket o bolts............3862
The Machine.......................3837
X-Cats..............................3836
Falcon..............................3762
Team Pascack....................3746
LTownThrowdown..............,,3399


Now I will continue scoring the week 5 events, and in order to expedite the drafting for MAR and FiM I will score and post the rankings for each event the night that the districts finish, so Saturday for FiM and Sunday for MAR



Do you mean the listings for most points in the district (IE how the districts give them points) or do you want something from me the statement confused me

Would the FiM and MAR standings be better to use for the pick list instead of just using OPR of the tams attending the event.

Brandon_L 03-04-2013 22:02

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Got bored, ranked teams in MAR


MARS_James 05-04-2013 22:42

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
So now with all of week 5 scored, and week 6 going to come much quicker here are our rankings:
Week 5:
PureMichigan..........................1715
Team 2.................................1573
Peach Alliance........................1370
TeamRUSH.............................1363
The Yellow Alliance..................1171
The Fellowship of the Fez.........1157
Team Flippin' The Greatest........1101
Team Awesome Blossom...........1074
Team Paradise........................1016
Beastly As My Fajitas...............1005
Falcon....................................957
Rusty bucket o bolts.................919
X-Cats...................................893
Canadian Bacon +1 + Joe..........860
The Machine...........................860
Team Pascack.........................814
LTownThrowdown ....................627

And now our updated combined rankings:

The Yellow Alliance..................6455
PureMichigan..........................6376
Peach Alliance........................6329
Team 2.................................6065
TeamRUSH............................5558
Beastly As My Fajitas..............5200
Team Flippin' The Greatest.......5184
The Fellowship of the Fez........5141
Team Paradise.......................5124
Team Awesome Blossom..........4995
Canadian Bacon +1 + Joe........4929
Rusty bucket o bolts..............4776
X-Cats................................4729
Falcon.................................4719
The Machine.........................4692
Team Pascack.......................4560
LTownThrowdown ..................4026

MARS_James 06-04-2013 21:18

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
So time for the FiM fantasy team rankings:

The Yellow Alliance..............1593
Peach Alliance....................1448
TeamRUSH.........................1406
PureMichigan......................1379
Team 2.............................1290
Beastly As My Fajitas..........1228
Falcon..............................1153
Team Paradise....................1061
The Fellowship of the Fez......1016
Team Awesome Blossom.........999
Canadian Bacon +1 + Joe.......980
X-Cats...............................963
Team Pascack.....................881
Team Flippin' The Greatest.....865
The Machine........................844
Rusty bucket o bolts.............798
LTownThrowdown ................753

IKE 06-04-2013 21:27

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Do the FiM include week6?

EricH 06-04-2013 21:32

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by IKE (Post 1257902)
Do the FiM include week6?

Pretty sure they do; Bedford scores are out.

MARS_James 06-04-2013 21:58

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by IKE (Post 1257902)
Do the FiM include week6?

yes

MARS_James 07-04-2013 10:13

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
So if we use the Michigan rankings to determine random order ( and everyone who qualifies goes, excluding 1596 who already said they would not attend, attends) here is the order.

33
469
2054
2474
1718
862
1918
2959
3656
245
27
3618
3414
2851
70
1684
3539
3641
2619
67
314
68
3234
1189
1701
2612
2145
4130
2000
3602
51
217
4384
573
123
107
3421
3604
4325
326
216
2767
2137
858
3688
4381
2960
1025
910
280
2611
2834
94
2771
4377
4391
494
815
3572
1023
141
2337
548
503

Gregor 07-04-2013 10:24

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
When are the MAR and MSC draft dates?

iPenguin 07-04-2013 15:38

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MARS_James (Post 1258052)
So if we use the Michigan rankings to determine random order ( and everyone who qualifies goes, excluding 1596 who already said they would not attend, attends) here is the order.

33
469
2054
2474
1718
862
1918
2959
3656
245
27
3618
3414
2851
70
1684
3539
3641
2619
67
314
68
3234
1189
1701
2612
2145
4130
2000
3602
51
217
4384
573
123
107
3421
3604
4325
326
216
2767
2137
858
3688
4381
2960
1025
910
280
2611
2834
94
2771
4377
4391
494
815
3572
1023
141
2337
548
503

But if we do it like that, then the "random rankings" aren't random at all. Everyone could then just say to take randoms and there'd pretty much be no contest.

nikeairmancurry 07-04-2013 15:51

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iPenguin (Post 1258156)
But if we do it like that, then the "random rankings" aren't random at all. Everyone could then just say to take randoms and there'd pretty much be no contest.

I'll tell you those rankings do not accurately label the top teams in the state.. There are teams outside the top 15 that are better than those in the top 15.

Littleboy 07-04-2013 15:55

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Some of the teams towards the bottom are quite good. Some just had a bad first event but are much better now.
Even if we used random teams, it wouldn't be all that hard to just use that list as your list. I don't see why it really matters what we use.

Gregor 07-04-2013 16:16

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
I would do it in reverse order. Don't be rewarded for missing the draft and not sending in a list.

nikeairmancurry 07-04-2013 16:49

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gregor (Post 1258168)
I would do it in reverse order. Don't be rewarded for missing the draft and not sending in a list.

Those bottom 6 all won DCA.. So they have good shots at RCA

Littleboy 07-04-2013 16:53

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nikeairmancurry (Post 1258194)
Those bottom 5 all won DCA.. So they have good shots at RCA

We could do it in reverse order of OPR. Or just random.

Koko Ed 07-04-2013 17:32

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gregor (Post 1258054)
When are the MAR and MSC draft dates?

We have to do it on Wednesday night to maximize the time the teams have to sign up for the event.
Unfortunately I will not be able to run either draft as I will be traveling to Ypsilanti that night.

Littleboy 07-04-2013 17:37

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
FiM teams have until noon tomorrow to sign up. So Monday or Tuesday night would work. You would also be available to run the draft.

MARS_James 07-04-2013 21:57

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
So now MAR Rankings:

PureMichigan..................779
Beastly As My Fajitas.......749
The Yellow Alliance..........714
Team Paradise................690
Team Flippin' The Greatest...680
The Machine......................662
Peach Alliance....................657
TeamRUSH.........................611
Team 2..............................588
The Fellowship of the Fez......585
Falcon...............................565
Team Pascack.....................513
Team Awesome Blossom.........507
Canadian Bacon +1 + Joe.......507
Rusty bucket o bolts.............501
LTownThrowdown.................469
X-Cats...............................442

EricH 07-04-2013 22:18

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 1258226)
We have to do it on Wednesday night to maximize the time the teams have to sign up for the event.
Unfortunately I will not be able to run either draft as I will be traveling to Ypsilanti that night.

I won't be able to run either draft, either. If I know who to send a list to, they'll get one.

JosephC 07-04-2013 23:27

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
I can run the MSC draft Wednesday night.

JosephC 08-04-2013 00:03

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MARS_James (Post 1258403)
So now MAR Rankings:

PureMichigan..................779
Beastly As My Fajitas.......749
The Yellow Alliance..........714
Team Paradise................690
Team Flippin' The Greatest...680
The Machine......................662
Peach Alliance....................657
TeamRUSH.........................611
Team 2..............................588
The Fellowship of the Fez......585
Falcon...............................565
Team Pascack.....................513
Team Awesome Blossom.........507
Canadian Bacon +1 + Joe.......507

Rusty bucket o bolts.............501
LTownThrowdown.................469
X-Cats...............................442

In the case of the two bolded teams; what decides who goes higher on the list since they are tied?

GCentola 08-04-2013 00:08

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JosephC (Post 1258482)
In the case of the two bolded teams; what decides who goes higher on the list since they are tied?

Us, because we are awesome. Our name even says so :P

MARS_James 08-04-2013 08:24

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JosephC (Post 1258482)
In the case of the two bolded teams; what decides who goes higher on the list since they are tied?

Honestly I put them in a random order generator and awesome came out first, but if you want a better reason, Awesome Blossom is above Canadian Bacon in total score.

Koko Ed 08-04-2013 09:17

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Littleboy (Post 1258231)
FiM teams have until noon tomorrow to sign up. So Monday or Tuesday night would work. You would also be available to run the draft.

I haven't seen any action on the FIRST website at all so far today (for the District championships or the World Championships). It's better to be safe than sorry and wait til Wednesday night.

Koko Ed 08-04-2013 11:18

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 1258590)
I haven't seen any action on the FIRST website at all so far today (for the District championships or the World Championships). It's better to be safe than sorry and wait til Wednesday night.

OK, now it's rising.
If it hits 64 I'll schedule the draft for tomorrow.

Koko Ed 08-04-2013 11:21

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Littleboy (Post 1258197)
We could do it in reverse order of OPR. Or just random.

The best thing would probably be ranking the teams by their Fantasy FIRST average score.

MARS_James 08-04-2013 12:52

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 1258635)
The best thing would probably be ranking the teams by their Fantasy FIRST average score.

Alright give me the day to compile the list

Koko Ed 08-04-2013 19:28

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
MSC is up and ready for tomorrow night.
Send in your lists!

MARS_James 08-04-2013 23:15

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
MSC "Random":
EDIT: Teams in bold have signed up since the creation of the list but after we started the thread I figured until the start of the draft I will update this

862
469
1718
3641
33
2474
27
1918
3656
2959
2834
141
245
314
70
3618
67
3414
2054
4325
2619
2000
68
1023
3234
1684
4384
2851
573
2771
1189
2145
4377
123
548
107
3688
217
1025
2137
2337
3604
51
2612
2767
1504
3421
1701
4130
3602
503
910
494
2960
858
4391
2611
280
4381
326
3572

I am rather curious as to why there is no rookies

Basel A 09-04-2013 00:39

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MARS_James (Post 1259020)
I am rather curious as to why there is no rookies

Teams that win the RAS at a district compete at MSC for the award, not with their robot. A rookie team must qualify normally to compete normally at MSC. For that reason, it'd probably be fair to allow any RAS and EI team to be picked, even if they aren't actually competing. Not that I'm saying they'd be a good pick, but any of them have a shot to earn points.

Koko Ed 09-04-2013 15:01

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Still need someone to do MAR tomorrow.

MARS_James 09-04-2013 15:25

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
I will do it since I have to make the random list anyway might as well run the draft

MARS_James 09-04-2013 22:08

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
So i am staring at the MAR championship team list and there is 44 teams and in order to do the single tier I need at least 51 so if by tomorrow morning there is not enough teams then we will have to run an odd and even draft as in rank 1-17 odd will be in one and 2-16 even will be in the other.

MARS_James 10-04-2013 09:20

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
So the threads are up, everyone please go check them out for your draft times. Also the only teams I still have links to your lists are TeamRUSH, PureMichigan, and Beastly As My Fajitas, though only PureMichigan have a MARC list up so take that what you will. The lists I have been sent are from Team Pascack, Team Awesome Blossom, Peach Alliance, Yellow Alliance and X-Cats. If you are not picking live please send me your lists as doing a redraft would not be enjoyable.

Random:
2590
11
2729
225
1676
75
316
3314
293
222
2607
4575
1218
1403
103
433
56
3974
1640
714
4475
3340
2539
1391
303
193
816
224
4460
357
4285
2495
1089
272
486
1228
1370
1279
869
2559
1923
4342
1626
223
1367
1302
1143
1672

IKE 10-04-2013 09:58

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
I am good with the Odds and Evens with the exception that the last odd should go over to tier 2. Right now it would be better to be #2 than #1 by a 2 pick margin for 2nd and 3rd round picks. (Odds have 9FF teams, evens have 8 FF teams thus the 2 additional picks). Odds will already have the bias of the higher scoring league players thus a lower probability of a good pick sneaking through (IE 1v2, 3v4,....). Just my opinion, this would help even out the slight shift of higher scorers, and make #1 the more desireable position as opposed to #2 (which is currently a superior position).

MARS_James 10-04-2013 10:02

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by IKE (Post 1259761)
I am good with the Odds and Evens with the exception that the last odd should go over to tier 2. Right now it would be better to be #2 than #1 by a 2 pick margin for 2nd and 3rd round picks. (Odds have 9FF teams, evens have 8 FF teams thus the 2 additional picks). Odds will already have the bias of the higher scoring league players thus a lower probability of a good pick sneaking through (IE 1v2, 3v4,....). Just my opinion, this would help even out the slight shift of higher scorers, and make #1 the more desireable position as opposed to #2 (which is currently a superior position).

Makes sense to me I will switch them now

MARS_James 13-04-2013 21:35

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
So trying to score all the events I have hit a snag I have no idea how to solve.

Las Vegas was drafted as 1 tier but there is not enough teams for everyone to have 3 teams so what do I do?

Gregor 13-04-2013 22:33

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MARS_James (Post 1261470)
So trying to score all the events I have hit a snag I have no idea how to solve.

Las Vegas was drafted as 1 tier but there is not enough teams for everyone to have 3 teams so what do I do?

Randomize the team list, take the top half and put them in 1 tier, the bottom half in another, and apply the fill ins to both tiers.

PVCpirate 13-04-2013 22:36

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
I should be scoring my week 6 events tomorrow, just to update everyone.

MARS_James 13-04-2013 22:46

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gregor (Post 1261486)
Randomize the team list, take the top half and put them in 1 tier, the bottom half in another, and apply the fill ins to both tiers.

Is this the standard procedure or just a suggestion because if it is the latter I will wait to hear from Ed before doing anything

EricH 13-04-2013 22:46

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gregor (Post 1261486)
Randomize the team list, take the top half and put them in 1 tier, the bottom half in another, and apply the fill ins to both tiers.

That's not quite the way I'd do it. I've had drafts run out of teams (with no open slots) after randomization before, but not to the point of open slots.


If it were up to me, I'd say to compute the median score of a team at the event and apply that in any remaining hole. (Could also do mode; I wouldn't use mean for this.)

Basel A 14-04-2013 00:44

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1261494)
If it were up to me, I'd say to compute the median score of a team at the event and apply that in any remaining hole. (Could also do mode; I wouldn't use mean for this.)

No, I wouldn't do that. A random team isn't the same as an average team. I'd take the median of all the teams remaining at the time of the random pick. This only wouldn't work if the random spot was near the end of the draft.

Koko Ed 14-04-2013 05:29

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
The tentative schedule for the championship drafts:
Archimedes Saturday April 20th @ 7pm (this one could be a little touch n go as my flight arrive in St.. Louis @ 5:55 and I have to get my rental car and check into my hotel room so I may be a bit late starting).
Curie Sunday April 21st @ 7pm.
Gallieo Monday April 22nd @ 7pm.
Newton Tuesday April 23rd @ 7pm.
Be ready to send in those lists!

EricH 14-04-2013 12:34

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MARS_James (Post 1261492)
Is this the standard procedure or just a suggestion because if it is the latter I will wait to hear from Ed before doing anything

There is no standard procedure, to the best of my knowledge. I think we've discussed using some form of average score to fill that type of hole before, but haven't ever actually had to do it.

I'd definitely wait for Ed to weigh in on Vegas, and score the rest while we're waiting.

Akash Rastogi 14-04-2013 12:36

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Just wanted to add my thanks to all scorers and draft runners! We all appreciate having a bit of fun like this during the season.

Koko Ed 14-04-2013 15:47

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1261494)
That's not quite the way I'd do it. I've had drafts run out of teams (with no open slots) after randomization before, but not to the point of open slots.


If it were up to me, I'd say to compute the median score of a team at the event and apply that in any remaining hole. (Could also do mode; I wouldn't use mean for this.)

Eric's suggestion seems the best way to go.

MARS_James 15-04-2013 10:30

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 1261683)
Eric's suggestion seems the best way to go.

Ok well just so it is on here for everyone to see I am going with median which is 20. However just for fun I will say that Mean was 25 and Mode was 10

Basel A 15-04-2013 14:51

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MARS_James (Post 1257680)

And now our updated combined rankings:

The Yellow Alliance..................6455
PureMichigan..........................6376
Peach Alliance........................6329
Team 2.................................6065
TeamRUSH............................5558
Beastly As My Fajitas..............5200
Team Flippin' The Greatest.......5184
The Fellowship of the Fez........5141
Team Paradise.......................5124
Team Awesome Blossom..........4995
Canadian Bacon +1 + Joe........4929
Rusty bucket o bolts..............4776
X-Cats................................4729
Falcon.................................4719
The Machine.........................4692
Team Pascack.......................4560
LTownThrowdown ..................4026

I just noticed that 5 of the top 6 FF teams are from Michigan. Coincidence?

iPenguin 15-04-2013 18:21

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Basel A (Post 1262220)
I just noticed that 5 of the top 6 FF teams are from Michigan. Coincidence?

Cheers for being the anomaly! :D

MARS_James 17-04-2013 12:24

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
So while I finish up week 7 here is the results from week 6:

Peach Alliance......................1634
Team Flippin' The Greatest......1591
Rusty bucket o bolts..............1542
PureMichigan........................1523 :D
The Yellow Alliance................1520
TeamRUSH...........................1400
Team 2...............................1365
Team Paradise......................1319
Team Awesome Blossom.........1277
Falcon................................1250
Beastly As My Fajitas............1201
The Fellowship of the Fez ......1115
X-Cats................................1006
Team Pascack......................992
LTownThrowdown.................979
The Machine........................962
Canadian Bacon +1 + Joe........884

So combined rankings up to week 6 are:

The Yellow Alliance...............7975
Peach Alliance.....................7968
PureMichigan.......................7899
Team 2...............................7430
TeamRUSH...........................6963
Team Flippin' The Greatest......6775
Team Paradise.......................6448
Beastly As My Fajitas.............6401
Rusty bucket o bolts..............6323
Team Awesome Blossom.........6272
The Fellowship of the Fez ......6256
Falcon................................5969
Canadian Bacon +1 + Joe.......5813
X-Cats...............................5735
The Machine.......................5659
Team Pascack.....................5552
LTownThrowdown ................5005

Littleboy 17-04-2013 13:28

Re: [FF]: 2013 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Wow. My lead is quickly diminishing.


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