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Re: 2012 IRI MATCH RESULTS AND STANDINGS

Anyone know what matches had triples in them?

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Originally Posted by AdamHeard (Post 1179030)

Anyone know what matches had triples in them?

Here are the ones I recall off the top of my head.

3 triples were in matches involving 48 - Matches 28, 62, and 99.

Whether or not they were helpful or particularly entertaining for yours truly, I leave as an exercise for the reader to determine. :cool:

233 lost Match 75 to a triple after they were leading.

2826 lost Match 97 to a triple after they were leading.

340 tripled twice, one time with 341 and 447, in Match 72, defeating 469, 359, and 2337. I believe their other triple came during Match 101.

By the way, why did all the scouting geniuses picking for elims overlook 3940? They are peppered throughout these qualifying triple results.

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1592 tripled twice but 1 was disallowed. Match 57 when we were with 1538, this was the disallowed triple, and match 103 when we were with 340 and 1023.

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Originally Posted by Travis Hoffman (Post 1179035)

By the way, why did all the scouting geniuses picking for elims overlook 3940? They are peppered throughout these qualifying triple results.

They were also close to 4334's width, too. I am disappoint.

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In match 76, teams 27, 4334, and 2194 balanced even though they didn't need the triple balance.

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This what our scouting database shows.

Triple Balances:
Match 01 - Red (341, 2834, 33)
Match 25 - Blue (2194, 829, 548)
Match 28 - Red (4334, 469, 48)
Match 29 - Blue (3357, 2834, 1023)
Match 56 - Red (341, 2614, 2481)
Match 61 - Both (3310, 341, 829 and 68, 118, 2590)
Match 62 - Red (16, 2834, 1114)
Match 65 - Red (3322, 1023, 125)
Match 72 - Red (340, 341, 447)
Match 74 - Blue (51, 3310, 67)
Match 75 - Blue (111, 3940, 3357)
Match 76 - Red (4334, 2194, 27)
Match 80 - Red (1640, 217, 1741)
Match 97 - Red (3940, 148, 2614)
*Match 99 - Blue (2481, 234, 461)
*Match 101 - Red (1592, 340, 1023)

* I dont have data for anything past match 97. Matches 99 and 101 are based on Travis post above.

Based on the data the top triple balance teams were:

341 = 4
2834 = 3

10 Teams = 2
21 Teams = 1

Hope this helps,
-Clinton-

Re: 2012 IRI MATCH RESULTS AND STANDINGS

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Originally Posted by Travis Hoffman (Post 1179035)

3 triples were in matches involving 48 - Matches 28, 62, and 99.

Whether or not they were helpful or particularly entertaining for yours truly, I leave as an exercise for the reader to determine.

Based on your win-loss record, which matches you played that involved triples, and our scouting data the IRI rule changes had no effect on the fact that you didn't make eliminations. In other words, I think the fear/discussion going into the event was unnecessary.

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Originally Posted by AdamHeard (Post 1179042)

:cool:

Re: 2012 IRI MATCH RESULTS AND STANDINGS

I dont get how our Hybrid points in the OPR data is so low.
We made every single hybrid shot except for 1 (1/2 in our match 7) that we chose to realign our robot without ever testing, to let both our partners use the spots we normally take.

I realize how OPR is calculated....just saying.:rolleyes:

Re: 2012 IRI MATCH RESULTS AND STANDINGS

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Originally Posted by Ed Law (Post 1179028)

Here are the OPR numbers including total, hybrid, bridge and teleop OPR.

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OPR Rank/Team/OPR/OPR Hybrid/OPR Bridge/OPR Teleop

1        341        52.46        15.85        10.14        18.46

2        624        41.46        14.10        9.91        16.15

3        118        37.00        2.92        6.60        23.44

4        1023        36.84        8.30        10.66        11.37

5        2826        36.57        13.18        2.08        24.41

6        67        36.40        15.39        5.72        17.20

7        2056        34.26        12.73        7.56        17.51

8        233        33.98        7.88        5.24        22.92

9        469        33.97        3.13        4.65        23.59

10        51        33.80        5.29        10.45        16.84

11        68        33.00        12.51        4.30        9.13

12        2614        32.60        8.62        9.28        10.69

13        33        31.66        6.00        10.10        16.07

14        48        31.23        10.14        8.22        13.18

15        16        31.16        10.80        4.17        12.57

16        1676        30.72        9.35        5.87        16.47

17        2168        29.88        11.47        -1.05        8.35

18        548        29.79        9.43        9.93        11.04

19        1114        29.09        9.60        2.50        15.39

20        125        28.79        11.10        3.75        13.52

21        359        27.54        5.05        2.99        22.88

22        1741        26.97        8.94        7.06        7.65

23        1714        26.68        8.19        7.21        10.81

24        340        26.55        11.95        6.84        7.14

25        111        26.11        13.99        2.53        9.62

26        148        25.98        5.50        8.57        14.30

27        1640        25.74        9.67        5.76        7.46

28        3322        25.39        9.26        6.85        11.35

29        330        24.37        1.28        7.43        13.74

30        2590        23.89        7.17        2.41        14.07

31        192        23.38        5.50        1.32        9.42

32        2337        23.03        13.71        6.07        3.84

33        868        22.41        6.71        2.15        13.22

34        3947        21.38        8.92        6.36        8.84

35        1732        20.87        7.59        6.78        8.73

36        2194        20.04        4.29        5.26        7.30

37        234        20.03        9.86        3.93        6.91

38        573        19.91        4.99        6.49        11.93

39        3357        19.66        4.22        1.81        9.60

40        2949        19.58        6.34        5.49        8.42

41        3193        19.27        7.12        6.81        6.75

42        503        19.26        7.25        0.45        14.00

43        461        19.20        2.85        4.65        8.39

44        2834        19.16        7.60        6.13        1.79

45        2481        19.11        10.93        0.63        4.14

46        3940        18.77        7.95        6.06        1.81

47        973        18.77        7.22        6.92        4.49

48        447        18.67        3.70        -1.89        13.57

49        3138        17.80        6.60        3.53        9.80

50        71        17.13        5.48        1.72        3.15

51        1538        16.15        9.76        2.11        6.29

52        2054        15.78        7.04        3.04        6.37

53        45        14.67        7.20        7.00        3.60

54        27        14.11        2.07        3.42        10.23

55        4334        13.56        2.18        4.55        3.62

56        399        13.37        6.08        -0.32        7.32

57        829        13.08        2.10        -1.89        8.55

58        781        12.65        1.40        5.37        7.35

59        379        12.20        6.15        -2.11        8.62

60        3310        10.97        7.14        4.09        -2.50

61        245        10.58        6.33        0.51        4.13

62        217        9.73        6.88        0.54        2.14

63        1730        9.40        9.72        0.91        0.40

64        744        9.20        3.82        1.57        4.06

65        772        8.73        2.75        5.86        1.73

66        1592        8.10        2.00        -3.31        8.58

67        907        7.51        0.21        -2.47        10.07

68        292        3.19        3.54        -2.67        4.06

69        1902        1.37        3.63        -0.31        -1.24

70        1024        -0.43        0.71        -2.81        2.70

What did you do to calculate the subset opr if only the raw red/blue scores were posted (unless I'm missing something).

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Originally Posted by AdamHeard (Post 1179068)

What did you do to calculate the subset opr if only the raw red/blue scores were posted (unless I'm missing something).

The information needed to calculate subset OPR is from the standings sheet HP, BP and TP which are the total of hybrid, bridge and teleop points. It is very convenient to use. When solving Ax=B for total OPR, we use total score of all matches for each team as B. For subset OPR, B is simply HP, BP and TP. This is the same way I have been calculating them all season and it matches what Bongle gets with his calculation.

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Originally Posted by Ed Law (Post 1179073)

Although this requires more initial information, would it be more accurate to know the specific HP, TP and BP for each match?

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No, the results would be identical. Even if I have the individual match HP, BP and TP, I will add them up to put into the vector B so it is the same results.

However if you have the individual team's HP, BP and TP, then there is no point getting their calculated contribution because you already have the actual number.

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Originally Posted by waialua359 (Post 1179062)

Glenn, I don't know why the number came out so low. I guess that is the limitation of OPR with 9 matches and 70 teams, meaning limited interaction among teams. I will double check the numbers when I have time later tonight. I was very busy at work the last two days catching up with work after taking two days off. I spent about two minutes to copy, paste and run the macro. I didn't really look at the numbers. Since the total OPR number matches what somebody else posted, I assume the subset OPR are correct also.

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Originally Posted by Clinton Bolinger (Post 1179041)

Thanks Clinton. This post made my day, to have our team number right below 341 in second place for most number of triple balance. We had a lucky schedule in terms of partners who are good in triple balance.