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That's a shame you have to do it if you aren't interested in it. At least it's switching hands soon =) How long have you been on your team? When I joined, I was torn between joining programming or starting an animation subteam. I like animation, but I'm thinking of switching over my junior year.

I hear you on small teams (We're at ten or eleven. One team in my area has FOUR. Another has 73). Unfortunately, I think it's a bit intimidating for new people, especially freshmen, to come to our meetings. Especially if none of their friends are interested. That's one more reason I wanted to try a more personal approach to recruiting.

--Celia

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Thanks for the feedback! I'm trying to start changing some things up :yikes:

--Celia

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I've been on the team since the beginning of last year, my junior year. I was interested in robotics as a freshman, but I only ever heard one announcement about a meeting that I couldn't make. The only reason I'm in robotics now is because I sat next to some one in robotics last year, and he mentioned it to me once. One of my biggest regrets of high school is probably going to be not joining robotics sooner.

I completely agree with the fact that it's hard to get new people to join small teams, because by the end of the season, you're either all enemies (in which case a couple members would have left) or you're all friends. By the last off season competition last year, we didn't even have enough free people (I was taking ACT's and one was working) to have a human player or student coach. We always start off with a lot of people, but we always lose most of them by the first couple weeks of build season. Sorry, I got really off topic.

And as to website maintenence, I don't really mind, because it was an unique experience, it helped my team out a lot, and it doesn't take too much time now that the hard part's done (the making of the website).

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I made a website for a contest when I was 10. It was absolutely awful, and looking back, I probably broke every W3 'rule' there is. It had a marquee, links that were the same color as the text, and more.

Even though the site was bad, I liked making it, and stick with it.

Now I'm 18, and throughout the last 8 years, I've been on the staff team of several large gaming forums, two of which I'm still staff at. (one gets 300k page views a month and the other gets over 1 million.)

I've also been working as a web developer with a small company for the last year. I realize that's it pretty much perfect for me.

I'm in college for IT, but I'm doing a web and mobile concentration.

Web design (and moreso development) for me is incredibly rewarding.

During my last year in FIRST I started a redesign effort on my team's website, which will hopefully be live before build season starts (assuming the current members get it done :P)

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I hope you don't find this annoying, but I'm going to get a little picky. =) That's a huge encouragement, as it means that you only have to fix a few little things, but your overall website is looking good. I may have already said some of these in a different way, but I hope you take it well.

1. Move your 'About Us' content block above the 'Team Guidlines' block. The 'Team Guidlines' block is really big (which isn't a bad thing) so you have to do quite a bit of scrolling before you reach it.

2. If part of the purpose of your website is to atract new members, utilise your calendar! It is really well integrated in, so try adding some events, such as open days, or even days of team meetings. By doing so, you may get some new members.

Hope that helps! I will be following your website and how it goes =D

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It amazes me how early some people on this thread started web page design. And then to become successful in that field. It's so cool that you've turned something you like into a rewarding career.

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I don't mind in the least =) I like the criticisms so I can compile a "To-Do" list of sorts for the site. I'd like to have some kind of thing where team members can log in to the site so they can edit things (calendar, subteam pages) or access a central contact page (with team members' phone numbers, emails, team parents' info, etc.), but I don't think we can do that through our school site... Hopefully we can get the website to a point where we can refer people to it for current information about us. I think that would be positively fabulous.

(I realize now that I don't think I've stated anywhere in this thread that I don't know a thing about webpage design. I just think ours could be better utilized.)

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I am one of those people that have a lot of good ideas about web sites, but not necessarily the skills to execute them (even though that's changing this year - I'm going to be taking over the web site design because the person who did it last year doesn't have time this year). We're starting from scratch so to speak, but I'm using what we have as a jumping off point.

I went and looked at a LOT of other teams' web sites - I noticed what I liked and what I thought we could integrate relatively easily into ours. I noticed that most of them were clean, easy to read, and easy to navigate. Then I went through our web site and wrote down stuff that I wanted to change - all the content changes, the students can do. The web changes themselves, I need to do. The coding is in dreamweaver, which is pretty easy to use and probably what yours is in too. Check with the web design teacher. :)

As far as recruiting, its important to reach out to other teachers and students in your school, as well as the community. Its helpful if you have an in-building person to be your liaison, your voice to the administration so to speak. We lost 10 seniors this year and were kind of worried, but had a mixer last month and had 17 new kids (not just freshmen either!) come. We have a freshman orientation day and did a demo in the auditorium, which included them coming up on stage if they wanted to shoot the robot. We also had the school announcements promote the mixer every day leading up to it, which I think contributed to it too. Tell your current students to tell their friends, and bring their friends to meetings. We have a really good mix of students on our team - not just strictly mechanical or nerdy - but lots of creative types too, which is awesome - creative people tend to look at the world differently and sometimes you need that!

Wow, long post was long! Sorry! But good luck with everything. :)

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Well.... Let's see. I started as a graphic designer, focusing on the front-end of the webpage, and working to develop user-interfaces, though as time went on, I started to get more and more interested in the back-end of webpage design. When designing our webpage (www.frc1410.org) we looked a lot at what other teams had done, and then we took it down, and rebuilt it from the ground up using a front-end approach. We put a lot of emphasis on the ability of a user to easily interact with the site, and take away a pleasing image of the team. One of the things that is key with web design in making everything easy to find.

For recruiting, we've done a lot of asking for volunteers, but one of the most important things is to find somebody who is passionate about outreach, not just designing a webpage. Keep in mind that a webpage is not only a useful tool, but the front of your team for the entire FIRST community and can be used as outreach material.

I wish you luck!

Team 1410

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Seventeen people? Oh my goodness, that's awesome! I really like the idea that you give potential teammates the chance to play with the bot during a presentation. I'll have to suggest that for our assembly this year.

The trouble our team has with friend recruiting is that we're all good friends with each other, and other friends we have have more than likely scoped out the team and decided it wasn't for them. We do try, though! Luckily we are starting to mix the technical and artsy, so that has opened some doors.

Thank you for your recruiting tips! I appreciate it. --Celia

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I like your site, nice job! I must say the "Sponsor Us" tab may have been my favorite =) I am wondering though, what is front end/back end? Like user interface/website skeleton?

--Celia