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dcarr 14-12-2012 15:03
Re: Registration 2013
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by PVCpirate (Post 1201869)
From that blog post:

(Emphasis mine)
What I meant was if 1 already-qualified team wins the event, only 1 team is given the opportunity to go to Championships. This team is the first finalist team which has not yet qualified, going in order from alliance captain to backup team. Since the slot only gets passed down the order for this reason, if the slot is offered to the alliance captain, the other teams on the alliance cannot get it, even if the alliance captain declines to attend.
Right. I just misunderstood what you said, my bad.

rachelholladay 15-12-2012 13:18
Re: Registration 2013
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark McLeod (Post 1201822)
Sorry, I got distracted by Xmas shopping and forgot to respond to this question.

For ALL events (Regional/District/CMP) these are the current counts (give or take - event lists are still volatile) :
Note: not all District teams are registered for two events yet.
  • 4 events - 13 teams (0.5%)
  • 3 events - 57 teams (2.2%)
  • 2 events - 782 teams (30.4%)
  • 1 event - 1717 teams (66.8%)
For Regional-Only teams:
  • 4 events - 6 (0.3%)
  • 3 events - 41 (1.8%)
  • 2 events - 580 (25.7%)
  • 1 event - 1626 (72.2%)
Just curious, of the regional only teams, which 6 teams are going to 4 events? (I would assume many of those would be 3 regional + CMP)

scottandme 15-12-2012 13:27
Re: Registration 2013
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rachelholladay (Post 1202066)
Just curious, of the regional only teams, which 6 teams are going to 4 events? (I would assume many of those would be 3 regional + CMP)
Easy enough to figure out by looking at the CMP team list. It's actually up to 7 "regional only" teams attending 4 events.

16, 118, 148, 233, 359, 1114, 2056

Nuttyman54 15-12-2012 19:00
Re: Registration 2013
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by scottandme (Post 1202069)
Easy enough to figure out by looking at the CMP team list. It's actually up to 7 "regional only" teams attending 4 events.

16, 118, 148, 233, 359, 1114, 2056
3 of those 7 teams are all going to be at SVR week six...wow

Gregor 15-12-2012 19:09
Re: Registration 2013
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by scottandme (Post 1202069)
Easy enough to figure out by looking at the CMP team list. It's actually up to 7 "regional only" teams attending 4 events.

16, 118, 148, 233, 359, 1114, 2056
These are not regional only teams. They are attending champs.

Nuttyman54 15-12-2012 19:26
Re: Registration 2013
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gregor (Post 1202112)
These are not regional only teams. They are attending champs.
He means all regionals+CMP, as opposed to teams in a district system.

AlexD744 15-12-2012 21:20
Re: Registration 2013
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuttyman54 (Post 1202110)
3 of those 7 teams are all going to be at SVR week six...wow
This regional better have a webcast, otherwise, I would consider flying across the country to see it (only mostly joking haha). A showdown between 254, 233, 148, 118, 973 and 971 should be absolutely epic! Not to mention the other 52 teams there!

For some interesting stats (note: taken from FIRST site which tends to have some erroneous data, but should be close enough). Between these six teams there are:
55 Regional Wins
21 Regional Finalists
14 Division Wins
5 Championship Wins

Incredible!

DonRotolo 15-12-2012 21:31
Re: Registration 2013
 
An interesting point is raised: what would be an equitable method of allocating CMP slots to a district? Right now we have only 2 district systems, but what happens when there are a dozen? Are districts like FIM doomed to be forever frozen to three regionals' worth of slots?

C'mon, we're smart people, surely we can solve this?

Littleboy 15-12-2012 21:49
Re: Registration 2013
 
Once everyone is at a district system, I say we go by proportions. These proportions can change throughout time.
For example MI has 207 out of 2560 teams (8.086%). Besides the teams that already qualified for things such as Einstein 2012, HoF, sustaining teams, etc, there is 367 slots. In a perfect world, we should also get that percentage of teams at CMP. This year, we would get about 30 teams plus pre-qualified teams.
That number looks much better than the 18 we currently get.

Now on the other hand, CA would get fewer spots. Under that same system, they would have 31 spots. This is fewer than their current 36.

MARS_James 15-12-2012 21:52
Re: Registration 2013
 
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Originally Posted by DonRotolo (Post 1202205)
An interesting point is raised: what would be an equitable method of allocating CMP slots to a district? Right now we have only 2 district systems, but what happens when there are a dozen? Are districts like FIM doomed to be forever frozen to three regionals' worth of slots?

C'mon, we're smart people, surely we can solve this?
I made a chart of how many slots each area would have if we went district. The number of slots is calculated taking away Hall Of Fame teams, The previous years winners, engineering inspiration award winner, and teams sustaining since 1992

Billfred 15-12-2012 21:53
Re: Registration 2013
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DonRotolo (Post 1202205)
An interesting point is raised: what would be an equitable method of allocating CMP slots to a district? Right now we have only 2 district systems, but what happens when there are a dozen? Are districts like FIM doomed to be forever frozen to three regionals' worth of slots?

C'mon, we're smart people, surely we can solve this?
Simple: Your district's size relative to the entire FRC population in 2013 dictates the number of Championship slots available in 2014 (provided that awards that would qualify a team at a traditional regional will get you through to Championship all the same).

Now, when there are so many districts that 6*regions is greater than the reasonable capacity of Championship...we'll have to have a long look in the mirror.

Richard Wallace 15-12-2012 22:04
Re: Registration 2013
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MARS_James (Post 1202209)
I made a chart of how many slots each area would have if we went district. The number of slots is calculated taking away Hall Of Fame teams, The previous years winners, engineering inspiration award winner, and teams sustaining since 1992
Nice work.

You could add two columns fairly easily, I think. One that shows the number of CMP slots allocated to each area now, and one that shows the difference between an all-district allocation and the one we have now.

MARS_James 15-12-2012 22:07
Re: Registration 2013
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Wallace (Post 1202211)
Nice work.

You could add two columns fairly easily, I think. One that shows the number of CMP slots allocated to each area now, and one that shows the difference between an all-district allocation and the one we have now.
I will do that now should be done by tomorrow morning the earliest

Littleboy 15-12-2012 22:46
Re: Registration 2013
 
There is (and has been for several days now) 207 teams in MI. That extra team would bump us up to 30 teams.
Also, in CA, there are 6 regionals, not 4.

MARS_James 15-12-2012 22:57
Re: Registration 2013
 
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Originally Posted by Littleboy (Post 1202224)
There is (and has been for several days now) 207 teams in MI. That extra team would bump us up to 30 teams.
Also, in CA, there are 6 regionals, not 4.
I just checked again on the first website and you are sitting at 206 teams still, but you are right about California so I have changed it accordingly

So most gained:
Michigan: 11
Mexico and South America: 6

Most Lost:
Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Quebec: 7
Arizona, Nevada, Utah: 7
Ontario: 6


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