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F22Rapture 15-12-2012 00:33

Re: New Talon Speed Controller
 
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Originally Posted by Tom Line (Post 1201888)
Mike, our last Beta update included a new class for the Victor 888's. I haven't seen one for the Talon yet.

Is one going to be released? If not, what's the recommended class to use? We haven't had any problems using the victor class with it at all.

We're not in the beta, but I changed my plugin source to the beta channel to ensure compatibility with older code, and as per today's update:


Tom Line 15-12-2012 15:17

Re: New Talon Speed Controller
 
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Originally Posted by F22Rapture (Post 1202028)
We're not in the beta, but I changed my plugin source to the beta channel to ensure compatibility with older code, and as per today's update:


Figures. We're now one update behind because we had our seminar and didn't want to break our code by updating a day or two before the seminar. It's probably in there.

Mike Copioli 16-12-2012 09:40

Re: New Talon Speed Controller
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ether (Post 1201882)
Mike, could it be done with a PWM signal generator which generates a known pulse width accurate to 0.001 ms ?



No. Joe's questions was regarding factory calibration. These settings are what the firmware saves to flash when the Talon is first programmed. These settings are over written once the user performs a successful calibration.

A user calibration could be performed to obtain values that are are close or even the same as what's saved during initial programming. But there would be no way for the user to confirm this.

We did not feel the ability to restore factory calibration was necessary since the procedure would not be much different than performing a user calibration. And a user calibration will yield the best performance.

nerdherdmember 18-12-2012 12:10

Re: New Talon Speed Controller
 
FRC 422 just received the first 8 of our Talons! They are far smaller than we imagined them to be.

CalTran 18-12-2012 14:40

Re: New Talon Speed Controller
 
Team 2410 put four on our mecanum demo robot and man do they drive like a beauty! Makes driving off of our app so much smoother and easier. Me gusta mucho.

Ether 18-12-2012 15:20

Re: New Talon Speed Controller
 
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Originally Posted by CalTran (Post 1202886)
Makes driving off of our app so much smoother and easier.

Compared to what? (also, what does "off of our app" mean?)



CalTran 18-12-2012 15:29

Re: New Talon Speed Controller
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ether (Post 1202904)
Compared to what? (also, what does "off of our app" mean?)



Compared to previously having 4 victors. Off our app means we put one of the robot open shields on it and one of our programmers wrote an app too driver the demo bot off a phone with

Ether 18-12-2012 15:34

Re: New Talon Speed Controller
 
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Originally Posted by CalTran (Post 1202908)
Compared to previously having 4 victors. Off our app means we put one of the robot open shields on it and one of our programmers wrote an app too driver the demo bot off a phone with

Were you driving the Victors "off the app" too? ... so that you were comparing apples to apples?



CalTran 18-12-2012 15:37

Re: New Talon Speed Controller
 
Yeah we were driving the Victors off the app as well. The Talons just seemed more responsive. I will admit it was not a blind study so maybe its just the hyper behind the Talons that makes it seem so

Ether 18-12-2012 15:48

Re: New Talon Speed Controller
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CalTran (Post 1202913)
Yeah we were driving the Victors off the app as well. The Talons just seemed more responsive. I will admit it was not a blind study so maybe its just the hyper behind the Talons that makes it seem so

I'm thinking it's probably the linearity of the Talons which made the difference you noticed.

But as you said, it would be most interesting to conduct a blind study.



CalTran 18-12-2012 16:07

Re: New Talon Speed Controller
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ether (Post 1202915)
I'm thinking it's probably the linearity of the Talons which made the difference you noticed.

But as you said, it would be most interesting to conduct a blind study.



That'd be what, set up a few identical drivebases and make it "impossible" to see into what controllers are on them, then have a drive drive the three and rank how well they handle?

Jon Stratis 18-12-2012 16:23

Re: New Talon Speed Controller
 
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Originally Posted by CalTran (Post 1202922)
That'd be what, set up a few identical drivebases and make it "impossible" to see into what controllers are on them, then have a drive drive the three and rank how well they handle?

To save parts and ensure there are no mechanical differences, I would use the same drive base. Build a simple electrical board for it, but leave off the speed controllers. Put the speed controllers into separate boxes (even cardboard boxes would do for this), with a wiring harness coming out of it (wired up the same way for each case, so controlling the motors is identical). Close the boxes. Strap each one onto the robot sequentially, and hook up the wiring harness. Drive it around, and do an evaluation. Take the next box, and repeat.

For best results, use 3 identical boxes. After it's built, have someone randomly shuffle the boxes, then number them as you use them. That way, you won't know which is which until after your evaluation, when you open them up and compare the number to whats inside!

CalTran 18-12-2012 16:32

Re: New Talon Speed Controller
 
That'd be really interesting to do in off season. Now if only we had some extra Jags and new Victors.

stewie2013 24-12-2012 14:50

Re: New Talon Speed Controller
 
they are only .1 of a pound lighter than a jag due to the heat sink on it


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