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pwnageNick 28-09-2012 15:11

PWNAGE 2451 New Number
 
PWNAGE would like to notify the FRC community that we have a new team number. We used to be #2949 but are now 2451.

We have entered an exciting new chapter in our team's history and cannot wait for the 2013 season to begin!

Here are some updated links for our team with updated infromation (-YouTube, still working on that)

Team Website:http://pwnagerobotics.org/

Team Facebook Page:http://www.facebook.com/PWNAGE2451

Team Twitter: @PWNAGE_2451 or https://twitter.com/PWNAGE_2451

Team YouTube Channel: Until it is updated- http://www.youtube.com/user/FIRSTTeam2949PWNAGE

Please feel free to ask any questions.

-Nick & FRC Team 2451 PWNAGE

ehochstein 28-09-2012 15:23

Re: PWNAGE 2451 New Number
 
I'm curious, what is the reason for the switch?

dodar 28-09-2012 15:27

Re: PWNAGE 2451 New Number
 
Me too. How does a team just change their number?

MechEng83 28-09-2012 15:32

Re: PWNAGE 2451 New Number
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dodar (Post 1187890)
Me too. How does a team just change their number?

To borrow a phrase from online gaming: Hax.

But seriously, there's got to be a back story for this. Inquiring minds want to know!

Camren 28-09-2012 15:44

Re: PWNAGE 2451 New Number
 
I think they seized the former 2451 at their robotics workshop and after weeks of starvation 2451 finally gave in and surrendered their number. But aside my creative mind i'm sure there is a real reason for the switch

CalTran 28-09-2012 16:23

Re: PWNAGE 2451 New Number
 
Did they absorb another team sometime between last season and now, with this being the compromise they came to on numbering? Last well known example of this that comes to mind is 47+65=51.

pwnageNick 28-09-2012 16:33

Re: PWNAGE 2451 New Number
 
The team separated from the organization they were part of, the organization had rights to the number and chose to keep it as part of the organization.

-Nick

dodar 28-09-2012 16:39

Re: PWNAGE 2451 New Number
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pwnageNick (Post 1187915)
The team separated from the organization they were part of, the organization had rights to the number and chose to keep it as part of the organization.

-Nick

Huh?

Akash Rastogi 28-09-2012 16:44

Re: PWNAGE 2451 New Number
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dodar (Post 1187920)
Huh?


If a veteran team splits from their parent organization, they can recycle an old number because technically they are not classified as a real rookie.

See #3 http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprogr...-team-criteria and I believe also #6?

pwnageNick 28-09-2012 16:46

Re: PWNAGE 2451 New Number
 
The organization holds rights to the number 2949, so we had to be given a new number, and as Akash said, instead of giving us a rookie # (5000+) they recycle or use a number that was never given. FIRST has many numbers along the way that they never used exactly for this purpose.

-Nick

dodar 28-09-2012 16:49

Re: PWNAGE 2451 New Number
 
If you are giving up the number, how are you able to keep the name then? Since you are branching off, why doesnt the organization want to keep the name?

pwnageNick 28-09-2012 16:51

Re: PWNAGE 2451 New Number
 
Team names can be duplicated (ex. Robodogs, Cyberhawks, Robovikes, etc.).
Team #'s cannot be duplicated

-Nick

dodar 28-09-2012 17:00

Re: PWNAGE 2451 New Number
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pwnageNick (Post 1187927)
Team names can be duplicated (ex. Robodogs, Cyberhawks, Robovikes, etc.).
Team #'s cannot be duplicated

-Nick

I know, but pwnage is just a very singular and memorible name.

CalTran 28-09-2012 17:02

Re: PWNAGE 2451 New Number
 
I wonder if this means I can now make money for having a vintage PWNAGE card and button now...

Nate Laverdure 28-09-2012 17:04

Re: PWNAGE 2451 New Number
 
How does one gain rights to a number? I'd like to claim 9128 for myself.

pwnageNick 28-09-2012 17:05

Re: PWNAGE 2451 New Number
 
2949 is not continuing as a team. There will not be a team competing this season under that number. So assuming no new rookie teams call themselves pwnage, we will still be the only ones.

-Nick

pwnageNick 28-09-2012 17:07

Re: PWNAGE 2451 New Number
 
Quote:

How does one gain rights to a number? I'd like to claim 9128 for myself.
They have rights to it because the team was through that organization. So the number still belongs to that organization. They would have to release it for us to be able to use it.

-Nick

Nuttyman54 28-09-2012 17:22

Re: PWNAGE 2451 New Number
 
This seems to be a situation similar to what happened with 64 and 39. I don't know all the details, but after 2005 64 ceased to be a team. I believe several people involved with the former 64 started a new team, without their primary sponsor. Because they did not qualify as "rookies" under the guidelines linked by Akash, they were given the number 39, a number relatively close to their former designation, rather than a 2006 rookie number.

XaulZan11 28-09-2012 19:21

Re: PWNAGE 2451 New Number
 
I may be wrong, but I thought I remember hearing that 2741 (Method 2 Madness) became 2949, following the 2009 season. Am I mistaken? If not, it would be the 3rd number for pwnage.

pwnageNick 29-09-2012 01:09

Re: PWNAGE 2451 New Number
 
Quote:

I may be wrong, but I thought I remember hearing that 2741 (Method 2 Madness) became 2949, following the 2009 season. Am I mistaken? If not, it would be the 3rd number for pwnage.
2741 became 2949 and 2704 in 2009.

Another reason we separated is because we were interested in becoming a 501c3 and our organization was not. Now that the team has separated, the team has already begun the process for becoming a 501c3.

-Nick

big1boom 29-09-2012 06:54

Re: PWNAGE 2451 New Number
 
Any particular reason you jumped years?
Quote:

Originally Posted by GaryVoshol (Post 1187952)
Team numbers by year
• Teams #2330-#2681 were rookies in 2008.
• Teams #2702-#3122 were rookies in 2009


pwnageNick 29-09-2012 12:45

Re: PWNAGE 2451 New Number
 
Quote:

Any particular reason you jumped years?
The number is assigned by FIRST, apparently computer generated. So 2451 was just the next available computer generated number that was available. FIRST does not allow a team to request a number under any circumstance.

-Nick


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