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dcarr 12-12-2012 01:40
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Originally Posted by gabrielau23 (Post 1201142)
...and the endgame for Breakaway was pitiful.
What didn't you like about it?

CalTran 12-12-2012 03:24
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Probably the minimal reward and the fact that good teams could score more than 2 pts in those last 20 seconds. At least, we figured out we could.

dcarr 12-12-2012 03:29
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Originally Posted by CalTran (Post 1201188)
Probably the minimal reward and the fact that good teams could score more than 2 pts in those last 20 seconds. At least, we figured out we could.
From that point of view I understand. The scoring really wasn't set up a way to make it valuable. I think the GDC has since learned.

In terms of the challenge aspect and the audience thrill, however, I'd call it a success.

(It was my first endgame, and it was fun trying to make it work :) In retrospect, a more thorough game analysis might have dictated a more singular focus on goal scoring)

CalTran 12-12-2012 03:36
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Originally Posted by dcarr (Post 1201192)
From that point of view I understand. The scoring really wasn't set up a way to make it valuable. I think the GDC has since learned.

In terms of the challenge aspect and the audience thrill, however, I'd call it a success.

(It was my first endgame, and it was fun trying to make it work :) In retrospect, a more thorough game analysis might have dictated a more singular focus on goal scoring)
True. Always fun to watch some wicked fast lifts (1114 & 254) or post game lifting (67). Since then, the end game has definitely evolved into something of a major component of the game, and even into a tipping point for some (Queen City Regional - 8th Alliance rode triples to win)

Peyton Yeung 12-12-2012 07:39
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Originally Posted by CalTran (Post 1201193)
Since then, the end game has definitely evolved into something of a major component of the game, and even into a tipping point for some (Queen City Regional - 8th Alliance rode triples to win)
We (Team 45) recognized the balancing nature of the game a a huge point boost and we chose to focus on that rather than the shooting aspect.

The end game is getting more of a "make it or break it" style portion of the game where it can really turn the tide.

gabrielau23 12-12-2012 23:08
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@dcarr
yeah, as noted by other posters, the endgame wasn't very significant for the game as a whole. As long as you could find a way to score 2-3 goals in about 20-25 seconds, that would offset the benefits of lifting. Compare that with 2012's game, where it could literally be a game-breaker. 40 points (triple balance), coupled with even a semi-decent tele-op enables you to beat teams far superior to you in terms of shooting.

|DELTA| 15-12-2012 16:13
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Originally Posted by StAxis (Post 1190049)
In 2003 Rick Astley released his compilation album "3 Originals" including the very first song on the list, "Never gonna give you up."

2003 was Stack Attack... please no...

Also worth pointing out that Stack Attack was played 2v2 so would it really be out of the question to return to the stacking idea of scoring (Last time it was even kind of used was 2005) and adding a third alliance to make it 2v2v2 could make it a very modern version of Stack Attack. Someone else mentioned the Aluminum bar at the top as well, I'm thinking 2003 field but in a triangle formation with a triangle mound in the middle, with a 2004 end game bar in a triangular shape over the top to hang on in the end.

All I have to say is... no more boxes please....
This is an interesting theory. Especially since my mentors had our team re-enact the first week of build season in one day with this as the game. last year, we also did this exercise, and the game they picked was the closest one to last year's game ever. I suspect they have some sort of inside source.

|DELTA| 15-12-2012 16:56
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Originally Posted by Justin Montois (Post 1190162)
I just hope for a game where I can hold as many game objects as I design for. (2006, 2009) I'm kind of tired of the limits, one soccer ball, one tube, three basketballs. Give me some flexibility :)
YES.

Ferrosaur 19-12-2012 19:35
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So i checked the EXIF data on the image for the First game hint, and grabbed the gps data from where it was taken and i found this out.
It was taken inside the SEE Science center in Bedford, NH. and guess who had a fundraiser there last month.

Dean Kamen.
With a Tesla Egg. and a water Purifier.
in New Hampshire.

Just my hunch, but i think there is a connection there.

279 EMPIE 20-12-2012 12:59
Re: 2013 Game Hint!
 
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Originally Posted by Ferrosaur (Post 1203227)
So i checked the EXIF data on the image for the First game hint, and grabbed the gps data from where it was taken and i found this out.
It was taken inside the SEE Science center in Bedford, NH. and guess who had a fundraiser there last month.

Dean Kamen.
With a Tesla Egg. and a water Purifier.
in New Hampshire.

Just my hunch, but i think there is a connection there.
Since it is leading towards Dean Kamen, this could be lean towards the FIRST Logo. Meaning this could mean using the Triangle, Square, and Circle in the game some how.

jlmcmchl 20-12-2012 14:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ferrosaur (Post 1203227)
So i checked the EXIF data on the image for the First game hint, and grabbed the gps data from where it was taken and i found this out.
It was taken inside the SEE Science center in Bedford, NH. and guess who had a fundraiser there last month.

Dean Kamen.
With a Tesla Egg. and a water Purifier.
in New Hampshire.

Just my hunch, but i think there is a connection there.
I see magnets and a water game :D

ttldomination 20-12-2012 15:25
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Any takers on how long it takes CD and USFIRST to go down after the first game hint is release tomorrow?

- Sunny G.

Brandon_L 20-12-2012 15:49
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Game hint count down clock

dellagd 20-12-2012 16:08
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Originally Posted by Brandon_L (Post 1203464)
3AM EST?

Tornades3386 25-12-2012 18:37
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There are many lyrics in the songs that can be related to this competition:

"You know the rules and so do I" 0:23

"We know the game and we're gonna play it" 1:13

"Never gonna give you up,
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you" This might be related to some of the things that we might have to do in the game. It also kind of reminds me of the minibot from the 2011 competition.

This might seem to be useless, but I think the time has something to do with it. 0:23 1:13 both have 3s in it. Not only that, the picture from the hint is precisely at 3:00. So this might be related to the fact that there could be a third alliance. I've also realized that there are a lot of spinning and flips in the video, all movements of rotation. So rotation or spinning could be a major aspect of the 2013 game. I think there might be some other hidden messages in the time somewhere. I might be over thinking things, but who knows :P


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