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2013 Greater Kansas City Regional
2nd Registration opens tomorrow, and we've got 8 slots left before we go to wait pool status.
For those of you looking for a good week 3 regional, here are some facts. A lot of parity in the field.
A deep top end. In 2012...
Currently 4 states are represented
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It is going to be a tough event like always! :-)
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You forgot that if you didn't win the year before, you won last year, then you have a pretty good shot at being the winning alliance the next year :rolleyes:
2008 - 476 1802 1806 2009 - 1806 931 1208 2010 - 2345 525 931 2011 - 525 1730 3784 2012 - 1986 16 3784 It's statistics I tell you. Prediction, right now, and first: Either Bomb Squad or Titanium will be on the winning alliance next year. |
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3784, Bit by Bit 4-H Robotics, has never lost a regional. They share the record of 2 KC regional wins with 3 other teams (1806, 931 & 525). In 2013 they have a chance to be the first team in KC Regional history to win 3 in a row. |
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Silly little team from the middle of Iowa is joining, should be fun
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Did you know... 1730 has qualified for championships every year except for the two times they earned the WFFA at the KC Regional. :eek: Beware the curse of Woodie Flowers. edit: 1710 is the only team to both win the WFFA at KC and qualify for champs that same year. (Chairman's and WFFA both in 2009). |
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I think this regional is a really deep regional every year. Its allways interesting to see what teams come up with from 1730's incredible active appendage to unique craftsmanship of 525 there is always a great team throughout with unique Ideas. I'm excited for the new season and to see what new things the midwest region has to show. |
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Aaron, we are looking to break that curse.
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Did you know... 3528 won a regional (Oklahoma 2012) as the #1 seed in only their second year as an FRC team. That is tied for the fastest any team attending the KC regional has achieved such a feat. 1730 also accomplished this at Boilermaker 2007. 1625 was close being the top pick of the #2 seed in their second season and going on to win the 2006 Wisconsin regional. |
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We will miss seeing all of our friends in Kansas City this year. Unfortunately the Kansas City date conflicts with our spring break so it did not work out for us this year. We really enjoyed being here the last few years.
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PWNAGE 2451 will be attending Greater KC Regional for a second year in a row!
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Did you know... The #1 seeded alliance has won every year at the KC regional except for 2008. That year the #8 seed with 476, 1806, and 1802 pulled off the Cinderella story. But before you think the #1 seed alliance always wins in a run-away...
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Did you know... 6 of the 54 teams registered have earned a Regional Chairman's Award at some point in their history. Of those 6 only 1710 actually earned one in Kansas City.
11 teams have earned an Engineering Inspiration Award. (Thanks NASA for helping to fund these teams' way to the Championship.)
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While we are at our 54 team open registration capacity, this tournament can easily go to 64 teams. Anybody out there on the wait-list?
Did you know... of the 54 teams currently registered 21 of them (39%) have been to Championships in the last 3 years, meaning they could have student members on the team who can speak about the experience first hand. 0935 (2011) – earned but declined spots in 2010 and 2012 0967 (2010, 2011) 1209 (2012) 1625 (2010, 2011) 1710 (2011, 2012) 1730 (2010, 2011) 1764 (2010, 2011, 2012) 1984 (2011) 1986 (2010, 2011, 2012) 1987 (2010, 2012) 2164 (2010, 2012) 2341 (2010, 2012) 2345 (2010) 2359 (2011) 2410 (2010, 2012) 2451 (2011, 2012) as team #2949 2996 (2011, 2012) 3528 (2011, 2012) 3784 (2011, 2012) An additional 12 teams have been to champs earlier in their history. Most recent year listed for each team. 662 (2006), 938 (2004), 1723 (2006), 1775 (2007), 1802 (2008), 1806 (2009), 1810 (2006), 1939 (2008), 1997 (2007), 2004 (2009), 2335 (2008), 2874 (2009) PS. Going to Champs is not the best indicator of a successful team. There are a ton of great teams who build very successful robots, and send students to top end colleges every year who don't find their way to Champs. Looking forward to the day when a district system allows the teams who have been close for years to finally go. |
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Every year, the Kansas City regional surprises me with its depth and competitiveness. Usually we are a week one or two event. This year, with us having a couple of weeks to watch, learn, and think, it is going to be insane. I can't wait to see everyone there.
If your team is looking for a great place to compete and meet some excellent teams, come to K.C. |
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Although Nationals is a blast to go to, we've observed that investing our resources into long-term projects teaches our students more about FIRST's ideals than attending a five-day event. |
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Huh, I just noticed they aren't on the list. Well if patterns are anything to go by, 1986 and 3784's odds just went up. I'll miss seeing Bomb Squad there though. |
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Granted 1806 already has 2 GKC Banners, so just by winning we'd break one of those stats. |
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The fact that the winning alliance changes up so often has become something that's kind id nice. GKC is definitely a regional that swings in any direction, and that's what makes out exciting. Don't get me wrong, I love seeing power houses sweep Canada and Michigan, but you almost always know who's going to win over there just buy seeing the roster. Kansas city? There's to many teams on a level playing field to tell. |
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Is there going to be a webcast of the event?
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Most years they don't update their page for the new feed until right before the event. PS. You might be too busy driving at the St. Louis regional to watch, but each match is usually archived within minutes. |
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Doing my usual Pre Event scouting, and'll post whatever I can find on here. As a side note, does anyone know if 4154 is competing at GKC or STL? The Blue Alliance has them scheduled for both so.... |
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Morenet has a test file up to make sure you will be able to view the stream. It worked well for me with IE, but not with chrome (which matches their suggested set-up).
FYI: It doesn't appear to play nice with my iPhone... |
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So, here is Cal Tran's Pre Event Scouting data:
(Tried to keep the same format as the data posted to OKC last year.) Teams that have previously competed: 1986 Team Titanium (Hub City Regional, Ranked 1) 55 Teams are attending; One team is attending their second regional, 54 teams are competing for the first time. Of that one team, one team (1986) has made it to Eliminations. One of those one teams made it to the finals of their regional, and won it all. Congratulations to the following accomplishments: Team Titanium, 1986, on their Regional Win at Hub City as the Number 1 Seed Team Titanium, 1986, for going undefeated for 17 straight wins at Hub City. Team Titanium, 1986, for their Entrepreneurship Award at Hub City. Team Titanium, 1986, for their Quality Award at Hub City. Jay Urban, of Team Titanium, 1986, for being a FIRST Dean's List Finalist at Hub City As you may have gathered, Team Titanium had a successful first weekend at Hub City. Their average qualification match score was 86 points, with a median of 84 points. They have a standard deviation of 19.6 points. The minimum score in their qualifications was 60 points. Their high score was 130 points. (To put it in perspective, the average score for Week 1 Friday Night was 41.4 points (median of 38 points), not including CVR or HH.) Come Eliminations, Titanium definitely stepped up their game. Average Elimination match score for them is 107.5 points, median score of 114.5 points. Standard deviation of 25 points. Minimum score, again, was 60 points, with a high score of 138 points. Note: The scores that Titanium posted at Hub City are WITHOUT utilizing their 30 point hanging ability and strictly sticking to their 10 point hanger. Will the competition at GKC be stiff enough that they have to break out their 30 point guarantee? They have one of the fastest, if not the fastest, 30 point climber in attendance. Edit Edit: They did, at a point, use their 20 point hanger. Edit: For those who care about OPR and CCWM, they have an OPR of 64.6, ranking them 4th in the world, and a CCWM of 59.6, ranking them 4th in the world. Only time will tell as to whether 1986 will be able to repeat their performance at Greater Kansas City, and join the club of teams that win GKC two years in a row. Last year, 3784 got them admission into the club, and it will be interesting to see who Titanium brings as their guest. All data taken from The Blue Alliance and Team 2834's Scouting Database v2.1 (By Ed Law) |
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Last year Time-Warner Cable Metro Sports provided some very nice, "ESPN style" coverage of the GKC elimination rounds on a tape-delayed basis, and rebroadcast it on 2 or 3 other occasions. I have inquired with TWC as to when that broadcast will be this year. If anyone knows please post it here.
A segment from the 2011 edition of that coverage is on this page: http://www.kcfirst.org/programs?qt-p...=0#qt-programs |
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Wow Caltran, you really do your homework!
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A comment for the general Kansas City-attending public: 1986 has qualified for the CMP at a previous event (as CalTran noted). Therefore, if 1986 is a regional champion at this event, the captain of the finalist alliance will qualify for the CMP. This may have interesting implications for alliance selections, but I'll leave you to figure those out.
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There is a reason no team has been able to captain the winning alliance two years in a row. The field in KC is very deep, and the qualification scheduling algorithm can have a major impact with 55 teams attending. In the 5 times we have attended the KC regional we have been regional winners only once, and finalists... never. We've completed the first step in trying to bring a wild card to KC, and if we find ourselves fortunate enough to captain or be invited to join a top alliance our scouts excel at finding excellent late draft pick robots to compliment the alliance. :cool: Looking forward to seeing everyone's awesome machines in a couple of days. |
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I'm with Aaron...this is a deep tournament, and it's going to be fun. We saw some interesting capabilities during the pre-bag "open house/week 0/whatever you want to call it" at LSHS; MOREnet's stream is going to be getting some traffic. |
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Practice day is tomorrow, so good luck to all the teams, stay safe, and have fun.
Oh, and be sure to watch out for Identifiable Frisbee Objects. Those hurt when they're fired out of a robot and into your face or any other body part for that matter. |
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We saw tons of extremely impressive robots today. It is going to be a deep field like usual in KC. Not too often that you see over 100 points scored in practice matches.
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Some concerns today that if anyone on the field uses more than their allotted bandwidth it can introduce lag into other robots on the field. Teams are starting to check the camera/bandwidth settings for their alliance partners and perhaps should look at their opponents too to make sure they won't be affected. Seems like coopertition all over again. :p
Looks to be a very competitive regional. We may not be the only robot that can hit 7 discs in auto. All types of climbers, including one robot without wheels at all. May even see a defensive robot with a small fan as part of their blocking scheme. Can't wait to see how effective these designs prove to be in tomorrow's qualification matches. |
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Does anyone have a link to the match schedule? I know what matches we're in, but I don't know our alliances or opponents.
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Lucky you- facing 1986 first thing :yikes: Sharon Up Next |
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Lucky you...facing Winnovation first thing. :yikes: |
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Lucky you, facing RaileRobotics first thing. |
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GKC elims are gonna be pretty interesting. If these rankings hold pretty steady through tomorrow I see the top 8 alliances being: 1. 1986/1806, 2. 1939/1730, 3. 1775/967, 4. 935/1625, 5. 2996/1825, 6. 3528/1710, 7. 2457/3928, 8. 2353/1763. Those would be amazing matches all the way through.
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A well deserved congratulations to Mr. Aaron Bailey of 1986 for a long overdue Woodie Flowers Award
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Well, hopefully those will change. We are 4th seed now. :) These finals are going to be very interesting... |
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anyone have a good link for the live stream
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Also very excited for these elims. Could see almost any alliance winning it all. Very excited to see what happens when a tall bot gets in front of 1806. Will get really crowded loading for 1986 then. |
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Cal here with an update from Hale arena: the number four seed managed top topple team titanium's win streak, but the number one seed came back with a vengeance. The arena is thirsty for the number two to upset the number one, but 3928 had to sub out.
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Congrats to Titanium and Aaron Bailey on the second championships, Woodie Flowers Award and opening up a wildcard spot for another team.
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Thanks to our alliance: 3928 - Team Neutrino, and 1987 - The Broncobots for being awesome in elims. Team Neutrino's autonomous was amazing, especially in that match when our alliance scored 86 points in autonomous. Thanks to 1987 for, in SWATs words, "sprouting a tree" to play defense! Also, have to thank 2353 - The Legion for being ready to go in the final match when Neutrino blew a Victor. Congratulations to 1986 - Titanium, 1806 - SWAT, and 2457 - The Law for a truly impressive and inspiring show at the K.C. Regional. It was terrifying and awe inspiring at the same time! Special thanks to 1986 for winning in Hub City and giving us a shot at the Wild Card spot for Champs! Hope to see you in St. Louis! |
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Special thanks to two mentors on 1987, who without we would not have been able to win Engineering Inspiration! And congratulations to the 2013 GKC Regional Winners and to the Finalists for making it as far as they did! And not to forget our awesome alliance captain 1775 and partners 938, we did great together, especially semis 1
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As well, congratulations to all the teams that won awards, in particular team 1710 on yet another RCA. A well deserving team that us and any other team could hope to emulate. As a side note, while people were at lunch, our team gladly accepted the 2013 Greater Kansas City machine shop award for "gratuitous use of the mobile machine shop." (Backstory: We showed up at the regional and discovered that our 10 point hanging arms were welded wrong. We then got parts here and there cut off and rewelded so that they work. After that, we discovered that in the new configuration, the arms would pivot the wrong way and not actually deploy. Another trip to the machine shop. Then, after fixing the pillow blocks, we discovered that the COTS pillow blocks simply wouldn't work. So we used the machine shop to make us some new custom pillow blocks. Final trip to the machine shop was to create a cross-arm bracing system. And those were just the trips to the machine shop that concerned our arm!) |
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Team 935 once again gives our congratulations to all the teams at Kansas City. We always find GKC to be a blast with its upbeat competition that has always keeps us on our toes.
Although our robot's performance wasn't at the anticipated level, we did solve many problems throughout the course of GKC. With OKC in a couple weeks, we promise to bring challenge to the table in a non "Disc-picable" way. :) |
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Anyone has the video for the 13-disc auton performance? That gotta be on the highlight reel of Ultimate Ascent! Amazing.
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I would have to say that this was the most exciting match in my opinion and it also happened to be the same match that brought and end to our 31 game win streak!
http://150.199.24.201/WMSDownloads/r...lmatch_015.asf |
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For those of you that are interested in watching the Metro Sports special about the K.C. Regional, it looks like it is scheduled to air from 7pm to 10pm on Friday, March 22nd according to the Metro Sports Website.
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Saturday 3/23 at 12 noon Sunday 3/24 at 8:30 pm Monday 3/25 at 7:00 pm Wednesday 3/27 at 2:00 pm Metro Sports is TWC channel 30, 310, and 1310 |
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Kansas City saw several firsts this weekend. The first time a team has captained the winning alliance twice (1986). The first time a team has won KC three times (1806). The first wildcard awarded in FRC history (1939). The quality of robot construction was the highest I've ever seen in KC. Of the 17 elimination rounds played 11 of them had winning scores over 100 points including losing scores of 117 and 119 points. 2 robots successfully pulled off the 7 disc autonomous (3928 and 1986) and 1 team had a successful 5 disc auto (3528). Several robots came prepared for full court shooting, but only one pulled it off consistently (1806). While there were multiple robots capable of floor loading, slot loading was the preferred method with 2996 being among the fastest at it. We did have a few robots specialize in climbing, some of which even included a disc dumper for the pyramid goal (1806, 1810, 1723). Defense was clearly the focus of several designs, but no one came more prepared for it than 1982 who could elevate to 84" when needed and had a fan to boot. 1939 and 1775 were 2 of the most consistent performers all weekend and should garner a lot of attention in Arkansas and Oklahoma as they prepare for their 2nd regionals. Congrats to Team Driven (1730) for winning Engineering Inspiration for the 3rd time in 5 years at Kansas City. Your team is always a pleasure to work with and it was a blast setting the regional (penalty free) high score with you. Our team has some side bets on who will win Chairman's each year. We'll have to start betting 1710 versus the field pretty soon. Congrats on your 3rd Chairman's in 5 years. All 3 rookies won awards at the tournament. Special congrats to 4522 on Rookie All Star. It was a thrill seeing your robot hit the autonomous shots and shoot the colored discs into the pyramid goal by the end of the weekend. A big thanks to our alliance partners (1806 and 2457) We proved in semifinal 1-2 that we can't win without you. :o The drivers all said that 1806 was the one robot they didn't want to play against. It was nice to find in our 3rd pick a robot who could hit a couple shots in autonomous and had a fast drivetrain to boot. Stats for the team this weekend:
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A huge congratulations to 1710 for winning Chairman's. Its the most esteemed award in FIRST and their isn't a team more deserving. Also congratulations to team 1730 on winning engineering inspiration.
Thanks goes out to two great alliance partners in 1986 and 2457. We thank Titanium for picking us over the other powerful shooters that were at GKC and The LAW for playing great defense and protecting us from the flood of "pool noodle bots" that went north so we could use our full court shooting. Also congrats to 1939 for a great performance and earning every bit of the wild card spot. |
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Photos from the regional can be found here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/runneal...7632947405295/ (Most of them should be up, but I still have a few more to upload.) Please read the set comments to get the link to download the photos.
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The regional was great! Team 1939 left with the quality award and qualification for championships. Here is a recap video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=_4Zx7vQIgP4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=_4Zx7vQIgP4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=_4Zx7vQIgP4 -- Danielle (Video Manager for Team 1939) twitter: http://twitter.com/firstteam1939 instagram: http://instagram.com/firstteam1939 facebook: http://facebook.com/firstteam1939 website: http://firstteam1939.com |
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I was just wondering if any of you noticed issues with scoring at KC Regionals. I was just review footage shot by one of our mentors friends on 1625 of our team and their is a 20 point discrepancy in the scores for Semi Finals 2 Match 1. Video (153 v 89) compared to the FMS score @ TBA & the 'official' score @ FIRST: (133 v 89). How would a scoring issue this big happen? If it happened this time, has it happened before? I'm just worried about something potentially happening like this at this weekend's regionals and hurting the teams when it does. Luckily it didn't hurt either alliance this time. Thanks for your thoughts & comments on this matter. I'm going to be sharing this with FIRST and will let you know what they say. |
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While I'm here, I want to say that I had a blast being the head referee this year. I know there are parts that could have gone more smoothly, so that is something to work on for future years (if I'm invited back). Every single drive team that I spoke with was extremely respective, courteous, gracious, professional, and fun. I hope I made it enjoyable for each and every team, as that was something I really strove to achieve. |
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I would personally like to give a shout out to you and all your other refs, volunteers, and the awesome AndyMark FTA, Liz! I think we can all say you guys were extremely fair and professional when it came to ref'ing our matches, even if it meant we weren't allowed to finish our finals match. We hope to see you again next year! -David |
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We also appreciate being allowed to stand out there and cheer on our alliance in that last match. This is one of those FIRST lessons for life. Sometimes things break at just the wrong time. All you can do is smile, cheer on your friends and start planning how to not have that same thing happen next time. -Andrew |
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