Chief Delphi - [EWCP] Women of FIRST

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<LadyLogistics> http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=1883

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<LadyLogistics> http://www.usnews.com/education/high-schools/articles/2012/05/31/college-mentors-key-to-prospective-female-stem-majors

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<LadyLogistics> http://ur.umich.edu/1112/Apr30_12/3537-feminine-math-science

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<GabeSalas> this reminds me of this tweet a while ago: https://twitter.com/neiltyson/status/220163990347718657

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<LadyLogistics> Hey guys if you have questions as we're talking feel free to ask them and we can pick them up at the end

<GabeSalas> the number 1 listed is a deadlink - here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g032MPrSjFA

<GabeSalas> Goes back to the "Science: it's a girl thing" UK commercial

<LadyLogistics> Great! Thanks for the link

<GabeSalas> anytime

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<schreiaj> And for reference guys, Dustin has to put his hair back when he goes to work too 

<GabeSalas> probably a good thing to avoid hair getting caught in moving parts

<Guest 12> all the girls on our team have to pull their hair back when working due to safety concerns.

<GabeSalas> totally understandable

<schreiaj> To be fair, I used to have to do that when my hair was longer. Getting back to that point now anyway.

<tmccanna94> In my female engineering sorority, there is a large range of femininity, but in both ends of the spectrum there are some of the most beautiful women

<tmccanna94> I have ever met

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<Kaaatie> I wonder if ISU has FE sorority...

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<GabeSalas> sweet - I got my pin to work

<Guest 12> out of curiosity, you just mentioned the "26% women in FIRST, 74% men". where did you get that stat? did first publish demographics?

<GabeSalas> FIRST releases stats annually I believe

<LadyLogistics> Yes we talked to the grant writers at FIRST HQ around August

<Guest 12> thank you, i will look around the FIRST site then.

<schreiaj> Look in the annual report. I think that's where I found it

<LadyLogistics> I'd suggest contacting the grant department since I had a hard time finding more the just FLL statistics

<LadyLogistics> if you can find it on the website we'd love the link!

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<Guest 12> I was able to find 2012 season facts that had some demographics but not women / men

<Guest 12> http://www.usfirst.org/sites/default/files/uploadedFiles/Robotics_Programs/FRC/FRC_Communications_Resource_Center/Flyers/FRC_2012_Season_Facts.pdf

<GabeSalas> I cannot find it either

<GabeSalas> found this (page 24): http://first.wpi.edu/Images/CMS/First/2007CON_Students_Attitudes_Toward_Science_Lundy.pdf

<Guest 12> speaking of panels, i know this year at CMP their was a panel on women in FIRST. (i only know because i volunteered my mum to do it)

<ziptie3182> does FIRST have any connections with getting mentors from SWE?

<Guest 12> and thank you for the think to the demographics pdf gabesalas

<GabeSalas> no prob - it is all I could find 

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<GabeSalas> I do

<jess2705> i don't

<ziptie3182> no

<LizSmith> I met her and I look up to her, for sure.

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<Guest 12> im from louisiana. i know the 27 rush mentor. meet her at CMP

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<Kaaatie> From Andrew (27 alumni): She has a comp sci, math background

<Kaaatie> Not engineering, but still STEM

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<Guest 12> has that SWE video from CMP been made? (i believe i was interviewed for it) But i think it would be really relevant to this conversation

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<GabeSalas> I have no idea

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<Kaaatie> Renee is the one working on it

<Kaaatie> If she reads the chat she should answer it

<LadyLogistics> In progress  The SWE conference is in February so I the video is compiled but specific editing is being done to make it relevant to the conference

<Guest 12> alright, thank you!

<Guest 26> Awesome!

<LadyLogistics> We'll be promoting it once it's finished since there are many great answers in the videos

<LadyLogistics> Ziptie 3184 mentioned "does FIRST have connections with getting mentors from SWE"- based on my area I have not seen SWE being a huge supporter...

<LadyLogistics> but I know that Kim is a part of SWE, and maybe on a individual level there may be FEMs that are part of SWE

<LadyLogistics> That's why we're doing a presentation at the conference to try and get them involved

<Guest 26> I started in FTC my freshman year of high school and my coach is basically like my second father, so I agree if the mentor, regardless of gender,is a

<Guest 26> good mentor, things will work out just fine

<GabeSalas> I agree with the sentiment of a good mentor, regardless of gender is important and will garner positive results with both male and female students

<GabeSalas> A good mentor will know how to approach engineering based on each student on the team

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<schreiaj> For reference, we did search - turns out it is hard to find a male who qualifies as a female rockstar 

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<GabeSalas> In some cases a pat down is not required

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<jess2705> That would be so cool!

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<Guest 12> there was something called US FIRST Girls. http://www.usfirstgirls.org/ we were ambassadors at competition but it did suffer from a what do we do now

<GabeSalas> I worry that a "match.com"esque online community to connect female mentors engineers with aspiring female high school students may gravitate

<GabeSalas> to more of a support group - I do not think alienating genders within FIRST is a great idea

<Guest 26> I think it would be a good idea - as mentioned before it could be a good place to discuss the 'burnout' - being asked to all these places and being

<Guest 26> worn down

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<LizSmith> There was also the "robot chicks union" RCU back awhile ago

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<GabeSalas> oh yea, I vaguely remember RCU

<GabeSalas> my sister was on there

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<Guest 19> RCU thats right thats what i was thinking of

<Guest 26> But I do not think it would be a good place to discuss technical ideas or similar ideas - if it is solely women, you could be missing half the ideas.

<GabeSalas> ^agree

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<Kaaatie> I think finding an "engineering big sister" is a good goal for a program

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<Kaaatie> not technical discussion, but making connections

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<jess2705> engineering big sister would be nice

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<Guest 12> this is a nonFIRST group, but im associated with NCWIT and they do (in my opinion) a great job of encouraging women in STEM

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<Kaaatie> big sister for high schoolers

<Guest 26> ^agree - my coach is absolutely wonderful, but being male, cannot provide me with the same advice as a women engineer could.

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<Guest 33> I'd love that!

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<jess2705> that would be great!

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<Guest 33> Thanks so much!

<jess2705> thank you so much!

<jess2705> renee this was awesome!