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Zflash 21-11-2012 06:19

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Cart Features below and a picture is attached. The one with the robot on it is are old one and is a very nice cart, but you have to lift the robot on and off of it. The new cart is a work in progress and the first time we used it was at St. Louis for Worlds. If there are any questions or comments let me know.

•No Lifting of Robot is necessary
•Fit thru standard doorway
•Adjustable height for working on scoring section or drive train (~4"-32")
•Lift robot wheels off of platform to test robot when needed
•Ability to maneuver over wire ways or other obstructions.

sanddrag 21-11-2012 10:58

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Originally Posted by Dale (Post 1194781)
As a team that has to crate their robot to make it to championships I'd also be interested in ideas for carts that fold down or come apart.

For a number of years on 968, we used something similar to this: http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_802_802. I don't recall if ours was that size but it was at least built the same way. We could easily disassemble and reassemble it in an airport with a couple tools and strap the wheels to it to check it as baggage. We also put it in the robot crate a few times. We carried 8 heavy totes full of parts/batteries/tools/etc on it to load into the pits at Atlanta. There was probably over 500 lbs on the cart.

Chris is me 21-11-2012 18:57

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The two most important things in a cart are a rigid handle and two casters, preferably on the handle side.

That said, the 2010 kitbot makes a great cart if you put some omni wheels on it.

If you haven't at least started your custom cart by now, I doubt you'll get it done before Kickoff unless you're super organized. We use the McMaster cart, works fine.


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Originally Posted by dcarr (Post 1194788)
I am curious if any teams have a good system for carrying their driver station with the Harbor Freight cart?

Driver and op carry the driver station, HP pulls the cart.

Ekcrbe 24-11-2012 01:50

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Originally Posted by jwallace15 (Post 1194547)
We have this robot cart (picture below). It has pull-out drawers to fit tools and important things in (such as bolts). We have a matching battery cart (image not available :( ). On the door we have hanging chargers (5 to be exact). Then on shelves inside the unit (positioned so that the chargers go into the shelves) we place our batteries, multimeter, drill battery chargers., and other battery related items. The only problem I have with our battery cart is that cables and other things have to be in their exact places or the unit won't shut properly. However, I've had no problem with our robot cart.

To add one more thing about our cart, the best part might be the built-in compressor, for charging the pneumatics system pre-match. In the small GM drawer we have a compressor hooked up to a breaker, a switch, a hose, a blow-off valve (to depressurize the line after closing the valve on the robot), and an Anderson connector. Keep an old battery plugged into it, and you don't need to turn the robot on to pressurize it.

The downside is it's very tall, and our ~52" tall robot squeaks/scrapes into our trailer, and all 4 wheels being casters could help it lumbering about.

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Originally Posted by Brandon Holley (Post 1194695)
I don't know what it is about that cart, but something about it just screams awesome :p :p

It's not the big white lettering, is it?

Chris is me 24-11-2012 06:21

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Originally Posted by Ekcrbe (Post 1195386)
To add one more thing about our cart, the best part might be the built-in compressor, for charging the pneumatics system pre-match. In the small GM drawer we have a compressor hooked up to a breaker, a switch, a hose, a blow-off valve (to depressurize the line after closing the valve on the robot), and an Anderson connector. Keep an old battery plugged into it, and you don't need to turn the robot on to pressurize it.

For what it's worth, it was illegal in the last several years to charge the robot with a compressor not directly controlled by the robot. That said, I don't know if anyone minds if you use the same compressor powered by a legal FRC battery, but you should be aware and make plans to fix it if called out on it.

ksafin 24-11-2012 10:24

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Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 1195390)
For what it's worth, it was illegal in the last several years to charge the robot with a compressor not directly controlled by the robot. That said, I don't know if anyone minds if you use the same compressor powered by a legal FRC battery, but you should be aware and make plans to fix it if called out on it.

That would only be for an on-robot compressor.

A compressor on a robot card or just lying around wouldn't be violating any rules.

If a compressor was on the robot and say controlled somehow wirelessly by another computer, that'd be a no no

Mark McLeod 24-11-2012 10:39

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Originally Posted by ksafin (Post 1195401)
That would only be for an on-robot compressor.

A compressor on a robot card or just lying around wouldn't be violating any rules.

Quite, quite wrong.
Only a rules permitted and robot controlled compressor may be used to charge the air on a robot on or off the field.

Team 68's cart as described is illegal for FRC use.
While it is possible to have a cart mounted off-board compressor. Specific rules must be understood and followed.

Please read the rules.

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Compressor - Only one KOP compressor (or equivalent, max 1.05 CFM flow rate) may be used (on or off robot). <R73>
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[R73]
Compressed air on the Robot must be provided by one and only one compressor. Compressor specifications may
not exceed nominal 12V, 1.05 cfm flow rate, 120 psi maximum working pressure. Off-board compressors must be
controlled and powered by the Robot.

Ekcrbe 24-11-2012 23:56

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Alright, I hadn't heard that. I'll see what the mentors say. It's not that much of a pain to use the robot itself to fill the system, but no one has ever seemed to mind either (they may not have even noticed; it doesn't get used much outside our own pit).

IndySam 25-11-2012 00:10

Re: Robot Carts - 2012 Edition
 
[R73]
Compressed air on the Robot must be provided by one and only one compressor. Compressor specifications may not exceed nominal 12V, 1.05 cfm flow rate, 120 psi maximum working pressure. Off-board compressors must becontrolled and powered by the Robot.

As a ref I have seen teams bring out a compressor and battery onto the field (usually after a extended wait time between matches or between finals matches) and try and charge their air with this other battery. Every team I have called on this rule has been mad but I have never backed down.


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