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Very nicely done. Am I correct to say these terminals can be pushed on and off a loosened screw without the screw being removed? The terminals don't permanently spread wide do they?

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Thanks!

You are correct, the terminals are designed to "snap fit" on a #6 stud. The speed controller connection screws are slightly smaller than that, so the terminals slide on/off easily when the screw is loosened, and they don't deform.

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Could ring terminals be used or do the Talons possibly suffer from the same issue the tan Jaguars did with removal of the screws?

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No, the talons do not have a problem with having the screws removed.

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Does this all come in a kit?

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It looks like there's an important difference between a Talon and a Victor. Victors have the (-) power input connection at the corner; Talons have the (+) connection there.

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Yeah, same for the Jaguar.

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Good observation. I'm having a tough time imagining why this would matter in any way other than them not being directly swappable in a built wiring harness. Is there any other reason this matters? I just want to make sure I'm not missing some important detail here.

It would matter because with both on a robot we'd need a new strategy for verifying the correct polarity of our speed controllers. "Check to make sure black is on the corner", isn't going to work very well.

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For those of us who put our speed controllers next to the PDB, we won't have to cross the power lines.

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I knew there was something I was missing. If we do put our speed controls next to the PDB, this seals the deal for me. Thanks.

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Bingo.

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For those who've already ordered Talons, do they come with mounting screws and/or spacers for the optional fans? (This is important for teams in the middle of nowhere like mine. :) )

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Also, how deep are the threads? (i.e. how far down do they go?)

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The ones I ordered didn't come with hardware for attaching fans.

However, I don't think the mounting will be complicated. Two screws 6-32 x .625" should do it. No spacers needed.

The holes are about 1/4 inch deep. I put a 6-32 screw in one of them as far as it would go, and then counted 8.5 turns while taking it back out.

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Easy enough, thanks! 6-32 isn't something I can get locally in any convenient sizes, but I can easily get them either via mail order or when someone gets up closer to civilization.

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If you've got VEX stuff laying around, you've got gobs of 6-32 hardware.

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The Talons do not include hardware to mount the fan. The fan comes complete with pre-crimped connections and two 6-32 screws.

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Are they the same geometry as the ubiquitous victor fans of which we have gazillions and gazillions? (That is to say, the same mounting holes?)

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Yes, a victor fan will fit on a talon, and vice versa.

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Thanks!

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Would it be possible to tap the fans with a metric thread? Do the holes bottom out before the PCB? Would we introduce too much swarf?

Here there is an extremely limited selection of imperial, the only imperial hardware we use are from AM.

Alternatively is it possible to use something like the clips for the victor fans?

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The fans come with mounting hardware.

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The accumulated fans that I assume many teams have stashed away from prior years' kits do not include the necessary screws.