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ksafin 23-11-2012 20:38

Website critiques & feedback!
 
Hello all.

As my team enters our second year, I decided to completely revamp our website.

You can see it at www.eaglesrobotics.org

I'd love to hear your feedback, critique, comments, etc, so I can improve the site and gauge its effectiveness.

Thanks!

KeatonM 23-11-2012 21:38

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"This domains disk limit has been exceeded!"

Can't access the site. May want to look into that. ;)

ksafin 23-11-2012 21:42

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Originally Posted by KeatonM (Post 1195341)
"This domains disk limit has been exceeded!"

Can't access the site. May want to look into that. ;)

Haha, you happened to click it at just the wrong time!

We installed some control panel on our server to make domain and file management easier, and didn't change the disk quota.

it should be fine now.

dcarr 23-11-2012 23:24

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Really nice graphics. How do you like Joomla?

ksafin 23-11-2012 23:27

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Originally Posted by dcarr (Post 1195374)
Really nice graphics. How do you like Joomla?

Thanks, I take a liking to graphic design & make all of our teams banners and artwork.

Well, I've been using Joomla for various sites for about four years now, and I love it.

It's really improved since I first began using it (1.0)

dcarr 23-11-2012 23:29

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Originally Posted by ksafin (Post 1195376)
Thanks, I take a liking to graphic design & make all of our teams banners and artwork.

Well, I've been using Joomla for various sites for about four years now, and I love it.

It's really improved since I first began using it (1.0)

Neat.
I've always been a WordPress/Drupal-when-I-need-it guy but I'm liking your site and am always open to new things.

ksafin 23-11-2012 23:39

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Originally Posted by dcarr (Post 1195377)
Neat.
I've always been a WordPress/Drupal-when-I-need-it guy but I'm liking your site and am always open to new things.

You should definitely try it!

rachelholladay 25-11-2012 22:52

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If I might offer a few opinions -

My immediate first reaction to the homepage is that there is a lot to see. There is a lot going on (maybe too much, I'm undecided) so my eye dances across the screen. In the header section you seem to have duplicated your Facebook and Twitter buttons, although this may have been done on purpose. I do like how your slideshow is more than just pictures, its a series of infographics. Again, however, its a lot of information thrown at the viewer at once. Your slideshow banner does accomplish giving the basic team information, which would normally be in some kind of introductory paragraph. But a different approach is cool. The navbar seems rather functional and incorporates your team theme in rather well. I will say that the "Resources" subtab seems much more loaded than the others in terms of first glance at content.

Within the pages there seems to be a nice continuity, which is always a comfort to the viewer. Adding in a page that gives specifics on your logo is a particularly professional touch. You provided some lovely pictures in your 'Robots' section, but it would be cool to read some details on them if possible. You give adequate discussion to both FIRST and your sponsors, so kudos on that. You media section is standard and easily viewable and expandable, me gusta as well. I would suggest that the album cover for either the FRC or FTC stuff not be the FRC or FTC logo simply because its undescriptive, unless all of the FRC (or FTC) photos will be the same album. Also, you might know this but you currently have no FRC videos linked.

Your 'Contact Us' page is also effective and reflects (what I would assume to be) the webmaster's decision to streamline all outside communication through the email-in feature. Although the blogs are currently blank, I like the idea of them (if I have the idea correctly in mind) and the headers have lovely graphical design. Currently the resources section is also blank (so no review available). I would caution that by having the many subtabs the viewer will expect a significant amount of information in each one. If you intend to fill them all, then I'll offer an early congratulations because that would make your site an amazing resource for all teams. Depending on the size of your resources, however, you might have to consider combining pages, but this is all a personal decision, and you may do with my thoughts as you wish.

Overall, looks nice. Although I'm a webmistress myself, normally my quick website reviews come only from a viewer's aesthetics perspective.

ksafin 25-11-2012 23:07

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First of all, I'd like to thank you. I really appreciate you taking your time to comb over our website so extensively, and for taking your time to write out thoughtful feedback.

Now, my responses:

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Originally Posted by rachelholladay (Post 1195978)
My immediate first reaction to the homepage is that there is a lot to see. There is a lot going on (maybe too much, I'm undecided) so my eye dances across the screen.

I get that impression as well to be honest.. Especially with having our banner in the header, the "subteams" icons in the body, and the blog banners in the body, it is a lot. I just like to use less text and more graphics, and it's a bit hard to incorporate without making the page look stuffy. I definitely agree though.

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Originally Posted by rachelholladay (Post 1195978)
In the header section you seem to have duplicated your Facebook and Twitter buttons, although this may have been done on purpose.

The buttons in the header are meant to link to our twitter & facebook pages, while the buttons in the absolute top header are meant to actually serve as functions to "like" and "follow" directly from the website as opposed to going to the pages and "liking" or "following" from thereon. Do you think this makes sense?[/quote]

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Originally Posted by rachelholladay (Post 1195978)
You provided some lovely pictures in your 'Robots' section, but it would be cool to read some details on them if possible.

Probably such will be added. As aforementioned, I try to skimp out on text but it's certainly necessary to describe the robot. I have a small description for each, but should have more content than that.

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Originally Posted by rachelholladay (Post 1195978)
I would suggest that the album cover for either the FRC or FTC stuff not be the FRC or FTC logo simply because its undescriptive, unless all of the FRC (or FTC) photos will be the same album. Also, you might know this but you currently have no FRC videos linked.

I agree entirely. However, I was having trouble deciding what to use as the album cover for both. While I could just use a photo, I was looking more for some kind of broad over-arching image that would encompass the content of the entire album. And yes, I admit I have quite a few videos to upload :o

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Originally Posted by rachelholladay (Post 1195978)
Although the blogs are currently blank, I like the idea of them (if I have the idea correctly in mind) and the headers have lovely graphical design.

Thank ya! If you look at the top of the page it says "Login to myERX". The idea for blogs is that students create accounts, log in, and we grant them permissions to post to their teams blog. That way all students can blog about experiences during build season to make for a dynamic blog & log all in one. Additionally the backend myERX has a calendar of team activities. It's like a team member control panel.

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Originally Posted by rachelholladay (Post 1195978)
Currently the resources section is also blank (so no review available). I would caution that by having the many subtabs the viewer will expect a significant amount of information in each one. If you intend to fill them all, then I'll offer an early congratulations because that would make your site an amazing resource for all teams. Depending on the size of your resources, however, you might have to consider combining pages, but this is all a personal decision, and you may do with my thoughts as you wish.

We'd like to fill out all categories, but like you mentioned about going light on resources, I don't know how extensive our resources will be. What would you think of doing instead? Having just "FRC" and "FTC" resources rather than split by section?

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Originally Posted by rachelholladay (Post 1195978)
Overall, looks nice. Although I'm a webmistress myself, normally my quick website reviews come only from a viewer's aesthetics perspective.

Any and all reviews are welcome :)

Thank you!

dcarr 26-11-2012 00:04

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I'm not sure how easy this is to achieve with joomla, but have you considered using AJAX to load content instead of re-loading the entire page? Would give the site a super juicy and professional feel. For wordpress, there are plugins that do this, but you have to spend a bit of time making it work properly with different page templates.

ksafin 26-11-2012 00:20

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Originally Posted by dcarr (Post 1196019)
I'm not sure how easy this is to achieve with joomla, but have you considered using AJAX to load content instead of re-loading the entire page? Would give the site a super juicy and professional feel. For wordpress, there are plugins that do this, but you have to spend a bit of time making it work properly with different page templates.

Go check out the website right now :)

It's a bit clunky w/ modules, trying to adjust.

edit: It doesn't work well with our Gallery or Video components, as well as the frontpage content/modules. Everything else is now Ajax'd.

dcarr 26-11-2012 00:45

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Originally Posted by ksafin (Post 1196027)
Go check out the website right now :)

It's a bit clunky w/ modules, trying to adjust.

edit: It doesn't work well with our Gallery or Video components, as well as the frontpage content/modules. Everything else is now Ajax'd.

Yep yep! The loading gif doesn't look perfect but I'm sure you can make your own.

One other note: the pop-up video that plays when you first visit the site is off-center and looks a bit awkward to me (Chrome). How should it look?

rachelholladay 26-11-2012 20:45

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Originally Posted by ksafin (Post 1195989)
The buttons in the header are meant to link to our twitter & facebook pages, while the buttons in the absolute top header are meant to actually serve as functions to "like" and "follow" directly from the website as opposed to going to the pages and "liking" or "following" from thereon. Do you think this makes sense?

I would pick one of the other for the social media. I can see your reasoning for putting both but it almost views like a mistake. Personally I would go with ones integrated into your header (the ones with just the small graphic). Its less obtrusive, and therefore more professional.


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Originally Posted by ksafin (Post 1195989)
Thank ya! If you look at the top of the page it says "Login to myERX". The idea for blogs is that students create accounts, log in, and we grant them permissions to post to their teams blog. That way all students can blog about experiences during build season to make for a dynamic blog & log all in one. Additionally the backend myERX has a calendar of team activities. It's like a team member control panel.

Very cool. If it gets rolling as you plan this would be an interesting feature. Plus it would give each person a feeling of ownership over the website (something I personally find important).


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Originally Posted by ksafin (Post 1195989)
We'd like to fill out all categories, but like you mentioned about going light on resources, I don't know how extensive our resources will be. What would you think of doing instead? Having just "FRC" and "FTC" resources rather than split by section?

Yes, my initial suggestion would be one for FRC and FTC. (I almost suggested that in my first post, but must have forgotten too and now suggest it here).

KeatonM 27-11-2012 20:27

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Originally Posted by ksafin (Post 1195344)
Haha, you happened to click it at just the wrong time!

We installed some control panel on our server to make domain and file management easier, and didn't change the disk quota.

it should be fine now.


Ah, I see.

I like that there's a mobile theme, however what appears to be your slideshow breaks on my phone. I attached a screenshot of what I mean.

When I went to the desktop version, the page fully loaded and then I was prompted to download "liq.webm." I don't know if that only happens on iOS, I'll check on my nexus tablet later.

ksafin 27-11-2012 20:45

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Originally Posted by KeatonM (Post 1196733)
Ah, I see.

I like that there's a mobile theme, however what appears to be your slideshow breaks on my phone. I attached a screenshot of what I mean.

When I went to the desktop version, the page fully loaded and then I was prompted to download "liq.webm." I don't know if that only happens on iOS, I'll check on my nexus tablet later.

Yes, unfortunately the slides do break down on the mobile theme :/

And, in response to the liq.webm download: interesting. We had a popup box that would play a quick video (3 seconds) called liq.webm. I'm surprised it asked you to download it.

synth3tk 27-11-2012 21:25

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Short answer: iOS doesn't support webm videos.
http://caniuse.com/webm

I haven't worked with Joomla in ages, but you're going to need to either find a module that will support cross-browser HTML5 video, or implement something like this yourself:
http://www.jplayer.org/

Unfortunately, regardless of the solution, you'll need to re-encode your video into three formats: MP4, WEBM, and OGV.

More info and some example code here:
http://designfestival.com/implementi...back-in-html5/

Tom Line 28-11-2012 15:43

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Originally Posted by ksafin (Post 1195315)
Hello all.

As my team enters our second year, I decided to completely revamp our website.

You can see it at www.eaglesrobotics.org

I'd love to hear your feedback, critique, comments, etc, so I can improve the site and gauge its effectiveness.

Thanks!

I am getting a security warning that the website is trying to download files onto my computer. Corporate computer, so the protection is a little overzealous, but I wonder what's triggering it.

synth3tk 28-11-2012 16:44

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Originally Posted by Tom Line (Post 1196970)
I am getting a security warning that the website is trying to download files onto my computer. Corporate computer, so the protection is a little overzealous, but I wonder what's triggering it.

Probably the video file referenced in previous posts.

dcarr 28-11-2012 16:55

My $0.02 - having an intro video/animation is a bit too 1990's - esque and may cause issues for some users. The site is already great without it.

synth3tk 28-11-2012 18:18

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If you're really married to the idea, at least include it in a sidebar on the front page, not as a modal box.

runneals 07-12-2012 22:49

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First thoughts when I visited your site is that it is SUPER, SUPER busy. I myself like something simple (see our team website). Although I think your nav bar looks ok, you should really have a location where you honor your sponsors, unless you pay for it all out of pocket, which I'm sure you don't. I have said that any sponsor over like $2,500 is featured on every single page in our sidebar.

I also think it would be really cool to hand it off to students (if you have any that are interested) as this type of experience is really great for them to learn valuable web development skills.

Thanks again for sharing!
David

ksafin 07-12-2012 22:57

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Originally Posted by runneals (Post 1199752)
First thoughts when I visited your site is that it is SUPER, SUPER busy. I myself like something simple (see our team website). Although I think your nav bar looks ok, you should really have a location where you honor your sponsors, unless you pay for it all out of pocket, which I'm sure you don't. I have said that any sponsor over like $2,500 is featured on every single page in our sidebar.

I also think it would be really cool to hand it off to students (if you have any that are interested) as this type of experience is really great for them to learn valuable web development skills.

Thanks again for sharing!
David

Thanks for the feedback.

Yeah, still pondering on what to do with the front page.

We have a page for sponsors, its under About Us.

& Well, I am a student :)

dcarr 07-12-2012 23:24

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Originally Posted by ksafin (Post 1199754)
& Well, I am a student :)

He's just that good.

runneals 07-12-2012 23:49

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Originally Posted by ksafin (Post 1199754)
Thanks for the feedback.

Yeah, still pondering on what to do with the front page.

We have a page for sponsors, its under About Us.

& Well, I am a student :)

I would suggest to start removing things & re-arranging things on a piece of paper or even commenting out lines of code. Then keep removing things until it gets less busy. I myself have decided against having a front page (although I might develop one for the off-season months) as I feel the front page should be for the lastest news and usually the only page most vistors visit (so that's how I did mine). Maybe try and push somethings to other pages?

And that's cool :) I tried Joomla for my high school site I was trying to redevelop, but I decided against that since it was too complicated and the teachers would never learn it (so wordpress is much easier :) <3

That's cool that you're a student. How much time have you put in so far? I've put in ~3-4 weeks in ours.

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Originally Posted by dcarr (Post 1199770)
He's just that good.

Yup :)

ksafin 08-12-2012 19:52

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Originally Posted by runneals (Post 1199781)
I would suggest to start removing things & re-arranging things on a piece of paper or even commenting out lines of code. Then keep removing things until it gets less busy. I myself have decided against having a front page (although I might develop one for the off-season months) as I feel the front page should be for the lastest news and usually the only page most vistors visit (so that's how I did mine). Maybe try and push somethings to other pages?

And that's cool :) I tried Joomla for my high school site I was trying to redevelop, but I decided against that since it was too complicated and the teachers would never learn it (so wordpress is much easier :) <3

That's cool that you're a student. How much time have you put in so far? I've put in ~3-4 weeks in ours.

I may end up doing so. I'm tempted to use the front page for news, but I also want some kind of graphics to link to important parts of the site - albeit I don't really have that there as of now, anyway.

Yeah, Joomla isn't the simplest, but once you learn it, it's powerful. I started learning Joomla in 7th grade, so I have 4 years of it under my belt, and what once took me a month I can now do in about a day.

As such, I made the entire website in about 3 days during Thanksgiving break.


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