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Tom Line 03-12-2012 01:13

Behind The Design 2012
 
In 2012, Team 1718 asked for and received authorization to attempt to produce a new 'Behind The Design' book. After searching for submissions and compiling the responses, the team realized that we didn't have enough material to put together a book that could do the previous Behind The Design books justice. So the team decided to take another route.

Instead of a novel, the team decided to release the sections that were completed as a serial book: a new section would be released each week in December, leading up to the 2013 kickoff. Much of the information in this first release has been discussed elsewhere, so we considered this our "Beta Test". Another new section on a different robot will be released next week.

Thanks to teams 67, 341, 971, 1218, Richard Wallace, and AndyMark for their help in putting this together.

Please give us feedback. We've never tried something like this, and we're very interested in how the community thinks we can improve it. Enjoy!

Behind the Design: Installment 1

Akash Rastogi 03-12-2012 02:17

Re: Behind The Design 2012
 
This is fantastic! Thank you guys for putting this together.

Excited for the next one!

Gregor 03-12-2012 02:30

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This looks great! Looking forward to the next chapter.

JOEL340 03-12-2012 07:53

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This turned out really well. I can't wait to see the next chapter of another great team.

Adam Freeman 03-12-2012 08:44

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Looks great! Thanks for including us.

I was really hoping for another book, but I can understand the difficulty in gathering and coordinating all of the information required to create a book as good as the first two.

Feedback: There are a couple of pictures where the captions are carried over from previous pictures (CAD of the frame - caption references utility arm sketches, Utility Arm motor calcs - caption references the shifter).

Looking forward to next week.

Nemo 03-12-2012 09:45

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This is fantastic. Thanks a ton for putting this together, and thanks to the teams who shared design info for the project.

Our team marveled at the conceptual simplicity and versatility of 67's arm as soon as we saw the first videos of that robot, and we plagiarized some elements of that design to upgrade our robot before our second competition.

Jared Russell 03-12-2012 13:13

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Love it!

As an aside, there is no reason why every single team in FRC can't document their season as well as this book/67 did. It is easy to do, yet it becomes a powerful tool for showing to judges, presenting to sponsors and parents, and studying to iteratively improve your robot building process.

JVN 03-12-2012 13:23

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This. Is. Fantastic.

I wish there was one of these for every robot. Scratch that... I wish that EVERY TEAM would take the time to do this for their robot.

Kudos to 1718 for facilitating this, but I wish they didn't need to.

-John

Joe G. 03-12-2012 13:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JVN (Post 1198307)
I wish that EVERY TEAM would take the time to do this for their robot.

+1

It would be awesome if teams would pledge to create something like this during the build period. It really doesn't take much to create a goldmine of information.

Ether 03-12-2012 14:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe G. (Post 1198313)
+1

It would be awesome if teams would pledge to create something like this during the build period. It really doesn't take much to create a goldmine of information.

I look forward to seeing 1687's next year.



Akash Rastogi 03-12-2012 14:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JVN (Post 1198307)
This. Is. Fantastic.

I wish there was one of these for every robot. Scratch that... I wish that EVERY TEAM would take the time to do this for their robot.

Kudos to 1718 for facilitating this, but I wish they didn't need to.

-John

Maybe it's time you put out another JVN Challenge? I remember some of your previous ones, but I'm not sure how many teams followed through.

Ether 03-12-2012 14:59

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The graph on the top left of page 8... I assume this is an open-loop test at 12 volts. The text says the team chose the 8000 rpm free speed, which would be the 1:2 gear ratio according to the graph. The text also says 4000 rpm was used for shooting from the key. Does anyone know what control algorithm 67 used for shooter speed?



Joe G. 03-12-2012 15:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ether (Post 1198325)
I look forward to seeing 1687's next year.



You definitely will -- If I can find enough supporting images and WIP diagrams, I may put one together from 2012 as well to help support this project.

dtengineering 03-12-2012 15:39

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Really nicely done. Congratulations and looking forward to seeing more. Perhaps, over time, it will be possible to compile enough articles like this to come out with a new book every two or three years.

I could see a format that would have team/game specific articles like this interspersed with articles on community involvement, chairman's presentations, imagery... almost like a text book on best practices for running an FRC team.

Jason

JVN 03-12-2012 15:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Akash Rastogi (Post 1198326)
Maybe it's time you put out another JVN Challenge? I remember some of your previous ones, but I'm not sure how many teams followed through.

Lots of teams were quick to say they would "of course do this!" Almost none actually did. :) Looks like 67 did.

-John


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