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cziggy343 04-12-2012 10:50

An Easy Way to Spread FIRST: Catalyst 2012
 
Hello CD Community!

I am representing Diamond Bullet Studios with an easy way to spread the mission of FIRST, and a great way for mentors and students to recruit new members to their teams.

We are passionate about spreading the mission of FIRST, and we think that we have created a product that will help to make FIRST more mainstreamed.

How can you help?

We had created Catalyst 2012 for the 2012 FRC kit of parts, and now it is going on the Xbox 360 Indie Games Marketplace!

Check out our website: dbsgames.net for more information on how you can help.
And check out this trailer for Catalyst 2012: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBg8QlAP2Eo

We would love the support of the FIRST community, and give us feedback for how we can make our products better serve you and your teams!

Anupam Goli 04-12-2012 11:05

Re: An Easy Way to Spread FIRST: Catalyst 2012
 
I for one played the <insert crude word for feces> out of this game during the 2012 season. It was so simple yet so much fun. Putting the game on the xbox live market place is awesome! I know I will be buying for me and my roommates to enjoy.

Are there any new features or is it the same game, but with 4 players and on xbox 360?

cziggy343 04-12-2012 11:21

Re: An Easy Way to Spread FIRST: Catalyst 2012
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wing (Post 1198598)
I for one played the <insert crude word for feces> out of this game during the 2012 season. It was so simple yet so much fun. Putting the game on the xbox live market place is awesome! I know I will be buying for me and my roommates to enjoy.

Are there any new features or is it the same game, but with 4 players and on xbox 360?

For this year, the features for the Xbox version are basically the same as the team version in the kit of parts. The User Interface looks cleaner now, you can play as your Xbox Live Gamertag, and play a 2 vs. 2 local matches. There is also an "About FIRST" section that we hope will help spread FIRST to people that are not already in FIRST. We hope that this will help to optimize this as a tool for teams to use for recruiting as well.

BobbyVanNess 04-12-2012 11:38

Re: An Easy Way to Spread FIRST: Catalyst 2012
 
I love the game, and according to the forums, I think I have the highest 1 player score. Are there any plans to add online play? It would awesome to play against other teams online!

cziggy343 04-12-2012 11:40

Re: An Easy Way to Spread FIRST: Catalyst 2012
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bobby5150 (Post 1198602)
I love the game, and according to the forums, I think I have the highest 1 player score. Are there any plans to add online play? It would awesome to play against other teams online!

No plans for networking in this game, however, it will be a future feature in the Catalyst series.

Chris is me 04-12-2012 11:49

Re: An Easy Way to Spread FIRST: Catalyst 2012
 
I've gotten upwards of 180 points in a single player game :P

The most disappointing thing about Catalyst was its extremely restrictive DRM. It's ridiculous. For one thing, the game is free. There is no reason you should need to authenticate for every match. For another, don't we WANT people who aren't on FRC teams to give it a try? DRM just holds back a great game.

I'm glad to hear it's on the 360 now. Hopefully enough people buy it that I'll have some opponents.

Clinton Bolinger 04-12-2012 11:50

Re: An Easy Way to Spread FIRST: Catalyst 2012
 
Chris,

Has Diamond Bullet Studios ever considered making a first person mode or "experiment" mode?

Basically, have the mode so users can fly any where in the 3-dimensional space of, and around, the playing field. The users have unlimited access to game pieces. Also user would have the ability to manipulate the game piece in different ways, like change the trajectory, velocity and orientation of the game piece. User could even just "drop" the game piece and see they interaction with the field elements.

Personally, I would find this much more valuable then playing with default preconfigured robots. Who knows this might allow for teams to discover things like the "bounce pass" or even the redirection of balls from 2010 like 469, sooner then their first event.

Does DBS plan on releasing a new version of Catalyst 2012 for the 2013 season? If so, will it be released on the day of the Kickoff?

Thanks,
-Clinton-

cziggy343 04-12-2012 11:58

Re: An Easy Way to Spread FIRST: Catalyst 2012
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 1198605)
The most disappointing thing about Catalyst was its extremely restrictive DRM. It's ridiculous. For one thing, the game is free. There is no reason you should need to authenticate for every match. For another, don't we WANT people who aren't on FRC teams to give it a try? DRM just holds back a great game.

Completely agree. We quickly realized that after release, and it is under consideration.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clinton Bolinger (Post 1198606)
Has Diamond Bullet Studios ever considered making a first person mode or "experiment" mode?

Also, under consideration

Anupam Goli 04-12-2012 12:10

Re: An Easy Way to Spread FIRST: Catalyst 2012
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 1198605)
I've gotten upwards of 180 points in a single player game :P

The most disappointing thing about Catalyst was its extremely restrictive DRM. It's ridiculous. For one thing, the game is free. There is no reason you should need to authenticate for every match. For another, don't we WANT people who aren't on FRC teams to give it a try? DRM just holds back a great game.

I'm glad to hear it's on the 360 now. Hopefully enough people buy it that I'll have some opponents.

I think the DRM was because DBS was planning on releasing the game for money, and they wanted one copy per team only (so as to discourage rapid sharing of the program).

bardd 04-12-2012 14:38

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That looks awesome! I wish I had an Xbox...
Any chance of a PC version?

cziggy343 04-12-2012 14:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bardd (Post 1198640)
That looks awesome! I wish I had an Xbox...
Any chance of a PC version?

Maybe, in the near future, but not right now.

runneals 05-12-2012 01:32

Re: An Easy Way to Spread FIRST: Catalyst 2012
 
Looks like I know what I want for Christmas! :) An x-box and Catalyst 2012 :)

stundt1 05-12-2012 06:08

Re: An Easy Way to Spread FIRST: Catalyst 2012
 
Will DBS be making a game for next year also?

cziggy343 05-12-2012 16:32

Re: An Easy Way to Spread FIRST: Catalyst 2012
 
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Originally Posted by stundt1 (Post 1198821)
Will DBS be making a game for next year also?

I guess you'll just have to wait and see! ;)

Peyton Yeung 20-12-2012 07:20

Re: An Easy Way to Spread FIRST: Catalyst 2012
 
Catalyst is out!!!

http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/Pr...5-d80258550c64

Ravage457 20-12-2012 07:39

Re: An Easy Way to Spread FIRST: Catalyst 2012
 
I would love to see previous seasons as DLC for this, but ill just have to wait an see, but I cant wait to get home from work and download the game

coalhot 20-12-2012 11:13

Re: An Easy Way to Spread FIRST: Catalyst 2012
 
It also would be cool if there was a way for teams to add their own robots. Such as, if you had a complete CAD of the robot, you could add it to the game and play with it. Just a thought...

Chris is me 20-12-2012 11:17

Re: An Easy Way to Spread FIRST: Catalyst 2012
 
It's neat. A little disappointing that there's no online play, but I'll live with that just so I don't have to log in every time :P

bearbot 20-12-2012 12:07

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Anyone run into issues with the game not going passed the catalyst screen

cziggy343 20-12-2012 23:09

Yay, I'm glad that people are excited about the game! We really hope that all of the teams use this as a recruiting tool, spread FIRST, and just have fun!!

Just in case some are struggling to find the game on the Xbox, when the home dashboard comes up, slide over to the games menu, then "browse games," then "indie," and it was currently under the New Releases category!

Quote:

Originally Posted by bearbot (Post 1203413)
Anyone run into issues with the game not going passed the catalyst screen

And I'm not sure what your problem is... We had one person email about a similar issue earlier today. If you can PM me with exactly what happened, and what version of the 360 that you have, we will try our best to fix the problem in an update!

MrBydlon 20-12-2012 23:31

Re: An Easy Way to Spread FIRST: Catalyst 2012
 
Soooo FRC Team 3313 Mechatronics is obsessed with FIRST. I'm the head coach and I bought the game. Here's a quick demo of it on YouTube. I hope this isn't copyright infringement or anything. I just want to spread the word. And the word is that this game is freaking amazing!! Can't wait to bring it to school tomorrow and play with the team members.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2Gzp...ature=youtu.be

familyguyfreak 21-12-2012 00:19

Re: An Easy Way to Spread FIRST: Catalyst 2012
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBydlon (Post 1203636)
Soooo FRC Team 3313 Mechatronics is obsessed with FIRST. I'm the head coach and I bought the game. Here's a quick demo of it on YouTube. I hope this isn't copyright infringement or anything. I just want to spread the word. And the word is that this game is freaking amazing!! Can't wait to bring it to school tomorrow and play with the team members.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2Gzp...ature=youtu.be

I second this. I downloaded it and could NOT stop playing. A really well made game. There is a minor glitch ;) , but other than that, awesome work. Can't wait to share this with my teams and possibly make some tournament fun out of this.

Keep up the great work guys!! I can't wait to see what else you guys come up with!!

Peyton Yeung 21-12-2012 18:58

Re: An Easy Way to Spread FIRST: Catalyst 2012
 
Is there any plans on making updates? I'd love the option to make my robot a wide base or to be able to use a wedge to lower the bridge. Overall a very fun game.

1 thing that is weird is that if you run into the opponent's bridge you get a technical foul but if u lower it from the side it is no foul.

Peyton

Gregor 22-12-2012 19:47

Re: An Easy Way to Spread FIRST: Catalyst 2012
 
Like the game. Downloaded the free version, about to buy the full.

Wish there was an option to drive tank drive robots over more than one joystick. Not used to arcade drive, more used to split arcade.

Peyton Yeung 22-12-2012 21:15

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[quote=Gregor;1204306
Wish there was an option to drive tank drive robots over more than one joystick. Not used to arcade drive, more used to split arcade.[/QUOTE]

I agree

kenavt 22-12-2012 23:25

Re: An Easy Way to Spread FIRST: Catalyst 2012
 
Just had my first chance to play Catalyst on a teammate's Xbox, and I loved it! However, it didn't feel exactly like a good simulator to me for a couple of reasons:
  • I didn't like the default control scheme - an editable one would be amazing (especially Gregor's suggestion above)
  • I think that a lot of the different robot configurations do not reflect what we saw in 2012 (primarily the lack of widebots, and over-the-bumper intakes).
  • To better reflect how teams designed robots and mechanisms, perhaps one could pick different mechanisms, then have an objective table with a fixed number of points to assign for effectiveness (for example, increasing the speed of one's drivetrain would be a point for each increment, as well as maneuverability, and shooting speed, weighted as to the difficulty of each design task)
  • While the others seem like quite a bit of work, this seems like it would the most. Some sort of AI would be amazing, to allow one or two people to play (and not need a full set of four)

Do you know if there will be a future 2013 version, especially with less restrictive DRM?

cziggy343 23-12-2012 20:33

Re: An Easy Way to Spread FIRST: Catalyst 2012
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kenavt (Post 1204378)
Just had my first chance to play Catalyst on a teammate's Xbox, and I loved it! However, it didn't feel exactly like a good simulator to me for a couple of reasons:
  • I didn't like the default control scheme - an editable one would be amazing (especially Gregor's suggestion above)
  • I think that a lot of the different robot configurations do not reflect what we saw in 2012 (primarily the lack of widebots, and over-the-bumper intakes).
  • To better reflect how teams designed robots and mechanisms, perhaps one could pick different mechanisms, then have an objective table with a fixed number of points to assign for effectiveness (for example, increasing the speed of one's drivetrain would be a point for each increment, as well as maneuverability, and shooting speed, weighted as to the difficulty of each design task)
  • While the others seem like quite a bit of work, this seems like it would the most. Some sort of AI would be amazing, to allow one or two people to play (and not need a full set of four)

Do you know if there will be a future 2013 version, especially with less restrictive DRM?

Well, we have thought about most of the points that you have brought up here, and you will be happier soon!

kenavt 23-12-2012 21:58

Re: An Easy Way to Spread FIRST: Catalyst 2012
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cziggy343 (Post 1204573)
Well, we have thought about most of the points that you have brought up here, and you will be happier soon!

Let me know if you need a beta tester! :rolleyes:

Chris is me 24-12-2012 14:05

Re: An Easy Way to Spread FIRST: Catalyst 2012
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tubatroopa (Post 1204359)
I agree

The Mecanum robot, for once, is the best option. Split arcade is the default for it.

I don't care so much about the robots looking similar. I would pay twice as much for simple online play, or even LAN.


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