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plnyyanks 10-12-2012 15:04

FIRST Choice Product Question
 
FIRST Choice shows the older 8 slot cRIO as being available, but not the newer 4 slot model. Does anyone know if it's possible to order the 4 slot cRIO through FIRST Choice, or do we have to go through NI?

Dr Theta 10-12-2012 15:07

Re: FIRST Choice Product Question
 
The 4 slot Crio is not a FIRST Choice item at this point in time. I believe if you are in need of one you will need to go through NI as in the past.

dcarr 10-12-2012 15:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by plnyyanks (Post 1200524)
FIRST Choice shows the older 8 slot cRIO as being available, but not the newer 4 slot model. Does anyone know if it's possible to order the 4 slot cRIO through FIRST Choice, or do we have to go through NI?

The 4 slot cRIO was never available through FIRST Choice...just the 8 slot.

ebarker 10-12-2012 15:09

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how many credits does it take to get one ?

dcarr 10-12-2012 15:09

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Originally Posted by ebarker (Post 1200528)
how many credits does it take to get one ?

The 8 slot was 9 credits.

Saberbot 10-12-2012 15:13

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Keep in mind that it doesn't come woth the modules. You'll have to order them from NI.

dcarr 10-12-2012 15:14

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Originally Posted by Saberbot (Post 1200531)
Keep in mind that it doesn't come woth the modules. You'll have to order them from NI.

Yes, and unfortunately they are quite expensive :/

tr6scott 10-12-2012 15:32

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It's all relative.
That 9 credits has to be the most bang for the credits I saw on there. I kind of wish we did not buy a 2nd one the last two years.

I am not sure what happened to the NI module prices, I just checked my order and I paid $152 for the analog 9201 card in September, now it show up at $351, yikes!

https://decibel.ni.com/content/docs/DOC-19103

Still a 8 slot cRio for 9 credits, or a wire stripper for 10 credits... I think I'd take the cRio..

dcarr 10-12-2012 15:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tr6scott (Post 1200536)
It's all relative.
That 9 credits has to be the most bang for the credits I saw on there. I kind of wish we did not buy a 2nd one the last two years.

I am not sure what happened to the NI module prices, I just checked my order and I paid $152 for the analog 9201 card in September, now it show up at $351, yikes!

https://decibel.ni.com/content/docs/DOC-19103

Still a 8 slot cRio for 9 credits, or a wire stripper for 10 credits... I think I'd take the cRio..

Exactly...the cRIO was easily one of the best deals, if not the best deal, on there. NI sure is asking a lot for the modules, I've been looking around to see if it's possible to get them cheaper anywhere else, but I'm coming up short.

I'm not sure if Chris Rake or anyone else from NI is around who might be able to clear the air on cRIO module pricing and how teams might be able to purchase them at a more reasonable cost to accompany these new 8-slot cRIOs.

BigJ 10-12-2012 15:38

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It is worth noting that you should just be able to disconnect your sidecars/breakouts and swap modules between robots.

Saberbot 10-12-2012 20:04

Re: FIRST Choice Product Question
 
I have an email in with NI about the module prices. Does anyone have an idea as to why it is cheaper to but the complete package with a new cRIO ($525.00) than it is to buy the three modules ($782.00) separately?

At this point we'll probably just skip the 7 slot unless we have extra points.

dcarr 10-12-2012 20:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Saberbot (Post 1200686)
I have an email in with NI about the module prices. Does anyone have an idea as to why it is cheaper to but the complete package with a new cRIO ($525.00) than it is to buy the three modules ($782.00) separately?

At this point we'll probably just skip the 7 slot unless we have extra points.

This is highly puzzling to me as well. There's no way that makes economically. Hopefully with all of these teams purchasing new bare 8-slots they can put together an affordable package. Please post any response here on the forums.

ebarker 10-12-2012 20:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Saberbot (Post 1200686)
I have an email in with NI about the module prices. Does anyone have an idea as to why it is cheaper to but the complete package with a new cRIO ($525.00) than it is to buy the three modules ($782.00) separately?

At this point we'll probably just skip the 7 slot unless we have extra points.

Here is probably a clue. The whole cRIO system was graciously provided to FIRST at a significant discount. Somewhere along the way they probably determined that the package deal was going to a FRC team and they would allow that at a deep discount.

Discounting just the modules would not be smart on their part because most of the sales is not to FRC, but to their normal customer base. It isn't proper for there deep discount relationship to FIRST cause a negative impact on their normal business relationships.

While I'm typing this I just went back and looked at their price sheet and it does say "FIRST" pricing just for the modules. So my theory may be wrong.

What the heck do I know ?

gyroscopeRaptor 10-12-2012 20:19

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The prices on modules appear to have tripled since this spring. I'm wondering why they have changed as well, even though we weren't fast enough to get a cRIO.

Moriarty 10-12-2012 20:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BigJ (Post 1200539)
It is worth noting that you should just be able to disconnect your sidecars/breakouts and swap modules between robots.

I think this is probably what our team will do. It will save us a couple hundred at the very least. Although, it would be nice if we could have multiple robots to drive at the same time.


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