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Kimmeh 12-21-2012 10:18 AM
Re: 2013 ACTUAL game hint!!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by karomata (Post 1203705)
Regarding the whole 3 alliances theory, there are about 10 FIRST Fields built, and many teams also have their own fields that they made. These fields are all 27x54 ft fields, and if there would be a 3rd alliance this year, FIRST would have had to restructure the formation of the field. It most likely would not be a rectangle like it has been in years past, therefore, it would not be the wisest move at all for FIRST to decide to change the shape of the field.
There's bound to be a transition as some point. There was one when we went from 2 x 2.

We can't use the argument that "That's how things are" when talking about the GDC.

Also, in regards to how a three minute match would influence overall event times, what if it's a three minute match and 3 x 3?*

*I have no numbers behind how that would influence match schedules. Nor do I want to do the math right now. Someone else is welcome to though.

Hallry 12-21-2012 10:18 AM
Re: 2013 ACTUAL game hint!!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EOC (Post 1203723)
In the rookie KOP only red and blue bumper material is provided. Indicating two alliances, not three.
Well, that rules out three alliances. Next!

MARS_James 12-21-2012 10:19 AM
Re: 2013 ACTUAL game hint!!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EOC (Post 1203723)
In the rookie KOP only red and blue bumper material is provided. Indicating two alliances, not three.
That or they didn't want to say another color thus showing their hand

Hallry 12-21-2012 10:20 AM
Re: 2013 ACTUAL game hint!!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MARS_James (Post 1203727)
That or they didn't want to say another color thus showing their hand
Or maybe that's what the "Separate Item" in the Black Tote is...

MARS_James 12-21-2012 10:23 AM
Re: 2013 ACTUAL game hint!!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Conor Ryan (Post 1203715)
Yellow Alliance.....
Just going to point out that in Ladder Logic (Which was 1v1v1) the third color was white

sur 12-21-2012 10:23 AM
Re: 2013 ACTUAL game hint!!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigJ (Post 1203703)
Some possible analysis from my boss while I do actual work ;)
Using http://www.visca.com/regexdict/ to look for words matching those patterns gives this:

97 88 E A 97 (^(.).ea\1$): dread, treat
99 E I 97 93 97 (^.ei(.).\1$): nothing

If you don't force that last one to cover an entire word, it gives veining and semeiology.

karomata 12-21-2012 10:23 AM
Re: 2013 ACTUAL game hint!!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kimmeh (Post 1203725)
There's bound to be a transition as some point. There was one when we went from 2 x 2.

We can't use the argument that "That's how things are" when talking about the GDC.

Also, in regards to how a three minute match would influence overall event times, what if it's a three minute match and 3 x 3?*

*I have no numbers behind how that would influence match schedules. Nor do I want to do the math right now. Someone else is welcome to though.
If the Rick Astley pic is a real hint, and matches are 3 minutes long, teams will have about 5 matches if it is 3 on 3 at championships. Just did some quick calculations based on last years schedual. The other problem with 3 on 3 on 3 is that it would not make for too great of a game, becuase as soon as you added like 148 or 1114 to one of the allainces, it unintentionally becomes 6 on 3.

DavisC 12-21-2012 10:25 AM
Re: 2013 ACTUAL game hint!!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hallry (Post 1203728)
Or maybe that's what the "Separate Item" in the Black Tote is...
they say this: Separate Item-4" x 1" x 1"

I think that is too small for bumper fabric, unless it is a small sample

Abrakadabra 12-21-2012 10:26 AM
Re: 2013 ACTUAL game hint!!!
 
Let's get back to this:

Quote:
Originally Posted by BigJ (Post 1203703)
Some possible analysis from my boss while I do actual work ;)

Code:
31  88 27 41 53,
62 23 41 41 53 26  41 23 83 97 53 88  97 88 53 31 97  31  26 23 83 83 53 88,
33 23 41 41 53 26  93 27 64 26 23 83 97  99 53 23 97 93 97

Pair Counts:

By number:
23 = 6
26 = 4
27 = 2
31 = 3
33 = 1
41 = 6
53 = 7
62 = 1
64 = 1
83 = 4
88 = 4
97 = 6
93 = 1
99 = 1

By frequency:
53 = 7    E
23 = 6    I
41 = 6    T
97 = 6
26 = 4
83 = 4
88 = 4
31 = 3
27 = 2
33 = 1
62 = 1
64 = 1
93 = 1
99 = 1

English Frequency list:
E T A O I N S H R D L C U M V F G Y P B V K J X Q Z

53 = E
41 = T
23 = I
31 = A
26 = N

A  88 27 T E,
62 I T T E N  T I 83 97 E 88  97 88 E A 97  A  N I 83 83 E 88,
33 I T T E N  93 27 64 N I 83 97  99 E I 97 93 97

Did all of you miss the almost complete decryption at the end of Josh's boss's analysis?

Code:
...
53 = E
41 = T
23 = I
31 = A
26 = N

A  88 27 T E,
62 I T T E N  T I 83 97 E 88  97 88 E A 97  A  N I 83 83 E 88,
33 I T T E N  93 27 64 N I 83 97  99 E I 97 93 97
This looks very promising!

shepheal 12-21-2012 10:26 AM
Re: 2013 ACTUAL game hint!!!
 
Speaking of 3, 3 is the most common number in the hint (23). The second most frequent is 2 (13).


WATER GAME

BigJ 12-21-2012 10:27 AM
Re: 2013 ACTUAL game hint!!!
 
Another update from my boss while I work :)

Quote:
Here is the website:

http://www.blisstonia.com/software/W...ypto/index.php

If you replace the number pairs with letters, it allows you to treat this like a straight substitution cipher:

H GICA, LBCCAE CBFDAG DGAHD H EBFFAG, KBCCAE JIMEBFD NABDJD

But, the best solution to this still doesn't make much sense:

A RULE, KILLED LIFTER TREAT A DIFFER, WILLED HUNDIFT BEITHT

karomata 12-21-2012 10:28 AM
Re: 2013 ACTUAL game hint!!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by karomata (Post 1203721)
So the number 31 is repeated twice, so when searching it into a regular google search, one of the top links is this: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/st...n31/index.html
This may refer to the game in some fashion because FIRST has been known to relate games to NASA missions and other accomplishments.
So thinking a bit more on this, what I am gaining from this theory, we may have a "safe zone" out in the middle of the field, or possibly there may be elements off the field that play a much larger role than in previous years. Still not sure though.

Conor Ryan 12-21-2012 10:28 AM
Re: 2013 ACTUAL game hint!!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MARS_James (Post 1203730)
Just going to point out that in Ladder Logic (Which was 1v1v1) the third color was white
Logomotion had both White and Yellow Tubes...

coalhot 12-21-2012 10:28 AM
Re: 2013 ACTUAL game hint!!!
 
I have a feeling that there were two hints released today. The "official" hint, and the KOP information. The official hint is also probably a decoy to take suspicion off of the KOP info...

dcarr 12-21-2012 10:28 AM
Re: 2013 ACTUAL game hint!!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigJ (Post 1203737)
Another update from my boss while I work :)
Rule and Lifter? Either quite a coincidence or we have something here...


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