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nathan_hui 01-01-2013 19:39
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dellagd (Post 1206314)
http://www.andymark.com/category-s/419.htm

Just saw this about the 2012 drive base kit... Did that say 36 inch x 36 inch? This may be what it always says but it just didnt seem right to me.
That's true. The kit has to be modified in order to be FIRST legal. All the channels come as 36" sections, two of which you cut to make the long or wide configurations.

meaubry 01-01-2013 19:59
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I'd go with the following take off from what others have alluded to -

A ROSE, KISSED = a song Kissed by a Rose that was sung by the singer Seal - and seals like to balance on a big ball, while balancing another ball on the tip of their noses, but - the initial song lyric does speak of a Tower, also.

SINGER GREAT = Elvis, the King of Rock and “ROLL”, something that can be done with a ball, “rolling balls”, as well as, balancing balls.

A DINNER, MISSED = slang term for Stood Up, as in something that might need to be accomplished during the game, ie: “stand something up”.

HOLDING WEIGHT = to maintain/balance ones weight could refer to another teeter totter device or placement of weights in order to “achieve a balance”.

not exactly sure what it all means when put together though, what fun ...

maddog175 01-01-2013 22:12
Re: 2013 ACTUAL game hint!!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gyroscopeRaptor (Post 1206216)
I think that anagrams are futile. The GDC wants the hints to be crackable, and I don't think they expect us to find one of 28,000 possible answers. Haven't we done enough already to crack any possible codes, and we can move on to the words themselves?
Just resolved some access issues (or I might have jumped in sooner). The post on the FRC Blog Hint #3 page was mine (anagram: "rearrange letters, showing message hiding inside, kiddos"). It was a fun little exercise. Given that it uses all of the letters from the poem, with reasonable phrasing, it could very well mean something. I like that it's "circular" (relates to pi). And, anagrams HAVE been used in the past (e.g. to get "drive straight, turn left", a few years back).

Hopefully, it'll all be clear in a few days.

Of course, the clues also point to a water game (as they always do, it seems): Dew (water) kisses a rose. Wayne Wade (water reference) recorded "I Kissed a Rose" in the 70s. An anchor (water!) is a holding weight.

ENIAC 01-01-2013 22:58
Re: 2013 ACTUAL game hint!!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by maddog175 (Post 1206411)
Just resolved some access issues (or I might have jumped in sooner). The post on the FRC Blog Hint #3 page was mine (anagram: "rearrange letters, showing message hiding inside, kiddos"). It was a fun little exercise. Given that it uses all of the letters from the poem, with reasonable phrasing, it could very well mean something. I like that it's "circular" (relates to pi). And, anagrams HAVE been used in the past (e.g. to get "drive straight, turn left", a few years back).

Hopefully, it'll all be clear in a few days.

Of course, the clues also point to a water game (as they always do, it seems): Dew (water) kisses a rose. Wayne Wade (water reference) recorded "I Kissed a Rose" in the 70s. An anchor (water!) is a holding weight.
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Wayne Wade (water reference) recorded "I Kissed a Rose" in the 70s.
We have assumed that Seal was the singer referenced, but this song fits the words better. The rose is the object being kissed, rather than the other way around.

Then again, who knows.

Kevin Thorp 01-01-2013 22:59
Re: 2013 ACTUAL game hint!!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by meaubry (Post 1206337)
A DINNER, MISSED = slang term for Stood Up, as in something that might need to be accomplished during the game, ie: “stand something up”.
I think you're on to something there. What about 4" DWV pipe for the game pieces? It's cheap & sturdy, and since it's designed to carry water, that could be the GDC's inside joke. It would be a challenging task to stand them up on end. Even more challenging to stack them! FTC used smaller pipes a couple years ago.

Edit: I inserted our 2011 robot for scale.

Kevin Thorp 01-01-2013 23:15
Re: 2013 ACTUAL game hint!!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by maddog175 (Post 1206411)
Wayne Wade (water reference) recorded "I Kissed a Rose" in the 70s.
Wayne = wane = "to decrease in size, extent, or degree"
Wade = weighed

Decrease weight?

Walter Deitzler 01-01-2013 23:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin342 (Post 1206429)
Wayne = wane = "to decrease in size, extent, or degree"
Wade = weighed

Decrease weight?
But I thought the weight was being held! :eek:

Edit:: As in the weight allotment is going to stay the same (my interpretation of this hint)

Maniix3 02-01-2013 00:42
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- The official clue seems to have a connection to Pi, and the photograph is of a singer named Rick Astley who had a hit song in 1987 title “I’m never going to give you up.”
- Ironically(?) this song became number one on the charts on March 14th (3/14)
- March 14th is also known as “Pi Day” (3.14…..)
So my best guess is the game pieces this year will be “Pie” shaped and we may be required to pick up as many pieces as we can and need to retain them. My though on the later is that we might have to defend the pieces from being removed or “de-scored” (“Never going to give you up”) by an opposing alliance.

This is the guess from members of our team. What do you think?

Botwoon 02-01-2013 02:22
Re: 2013 ACTUAL game hint!!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin342 (Post 1206424)
I think you're on to something there. What about 4" DWV pipe for the game pieces? It's cheap & sturdy, and since it's designed to carry water, that could be the GDC's inside joke. It would be a challenging task to stand them up on end. Even more challenging to stack them! FTC used smaller pipes a couple years ago.

Edit: I inserted our 2011 robot for scale.
And the pipes are filled with water for weight.

Gentlemen, we have our water game.

dellagd 02-01-2013 06:16
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I still hold firm on the whatever the game is, there will just be a clear cube of water hanging in some corner of the field, and the GDC will say that its a water game.

Also, Im expecting the game video to go something like this:

The standard FIRST logo appears on the screen. "Hello, and welcome to the 2013 FIRST Robotics competition season..." All of a sudden rolling waves appear on the screen and then the announcer says "and this year's game: "Pool Power".... Suddenly the screen turns black and you think you've lost your Kickoff feed until you hear the words "Just Kidding!"

ttldomination 02-01-2013 07:16
Re: 2013 ACTUAL game hint!!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dellagd (Post 1206462)
The standard FIRST logo appears on the screen. "Hello, and welcome to the 2013 FIRST Robotics competition season..." All of a sudden rolling waves appear on the screen and then the announcer says "and this year's game: "Pool Power".... Suddenly the screen turns black and you think you've lost your Kickoff feed until you hear the words "Just Kidding!"
I'd expect that more if the kickoff was on April 1st every year.

- Sunny G.

tosTITOs 02-01-2013 10:55
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A Dinner missed - A dumb waiter misses dinner.
Holding weight- A dumb-waiter is a set of pulleys that lower food up and down multiple levels of a building.

This game is going to involve a pulley system.

JJackson 02-01-2013 12:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dellagd (Post 1206462)
I still hold firm on the whatever the game is, there will just be a clear cube of water hanging in some corner of the field, and the GDC will say that its a water game.
Or they put water between the driver station glass and send bubbles through it

Shifter 02-01-2013 14:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Siri (Post 1206205)
Wow, incredibly. Unfortunately, following its advice (finding other rearrangements of the letters) is even more confusing. ::ouch:: If it's not a coincidence that it spells that message, is it a coincidence that it spells any of the other combinations?

There are 28,331 recognized words* in those 48 letters. I played with it for maybe 15 minutes and found at least a half dozen well-articulated and absolutely terrifying games possibilities. In fact, I'd venture that there are literally thousands of ideas one could articulate with this collection of letters. How to sift through them...


*EDIT: To put this in perspective, this means that 1 in every 8 words included in the entire, unabridged Webster's dictionary [11th Ed. Collegiate] can be made from those 48 letters. (Maybe more, as it appears the anagram solver's database is smaller.)

More than 1 in every 8 words in the English language. ...Is it just me or is the room spinning?
"SONG HINT IS RED HERRING,
END GAME'S SIDE GOAL IS DIKE WATERS"

fits

dellagd 02-01-2013 15:01
Re: 2013 ACTUAL game hint!!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shifter (Post 1206546)
"SONG HINT IS RED HERRING,
END GAME'S SIDE GOAL IS DIKE WATERS"

fits
Why did we even go into the anagrams... Oh geez...


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