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If the box is 4x1x1", the Raspberry Pi (which is 3.37x2.2x.82") couldn't possibly fit inside of it.

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A few thoughts

1) in regards to this being hint #1. I remember last year they outright gave us a hint saying that the kinect was going to be important to this years game. Maybe not in those words exactly.

2) 4" x 1" x 1" sounds like it could be a smaller kinect?

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Unless it's bigger on the inside.... :D

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Do they make those? If they do, it could be for vision tracking purposes instead of robot control purposes.

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:)

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As far as I'm aware of, there isn't a smaller kinect. And the normal container for the kinect is not 4 x 1 x 1.

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In which case we all better be ready for a really, really good game (It shall be called: Wibbly Wobbly Gamey Wamey stuff.)

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No, I'm pretty sure they don't. Also, I thought the kinect was something like a foot long, but only an inch deep/wide. Looking up the dimensions show it's actually 11"x3"x3" leaving me to believe that it's not a reduced set of kinect features.

I just wanted to do some pure speculations.

Also, I think with the lyrics "never gonna let you down" and the "holding weight" portion of the puzzle...we'll need some strong robots.

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I normally don't post in these, but I seem to remember that this box was the RSL last year.

-Nick

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What I see possibly happening is Kinect data being processed onboard the robot by a RasPi, if our suppositions turn out to be correct.

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Interesting. Perhaps the RSL this year is a 4 color 1" diameter light pole. its square cross section would be 4X1X1. the top light could be Orange, with the bottom three lights indicating alliance color and other important game specific information. Allen-Bradley does have lights on the market like this. Similar lights can be seen on those automated check out systems common in grocery stores. just an idea.

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Maybe the game is oriented around the seal idea. Since the Navy is involved in FRC this year, and the lyrics reference a seal and "a dinner missed" (holding weight). And Rick Astley sings "Never gonna let you down".... maybe this is a helicopter game?


Just some speculation....

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Anybody ever see footage of the team related task the Seals struggle with while undergoing hellish training on the beach? Teams of 8 or so have to pick up big, heavy log and carry/hold it for a real long time...makes you wonder, huh?

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I'm gonna go out on a limb here but I think we'll all figure out what this hint means sometime soon. xD

Why are you all saying that the navy is involved?

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FUN FACTS ABOUT STACK ATTACK:

2003 was 1114's rookie year.
1114 was one of the only teams that actually built a working stackerbot. I can't help but wonder if this experience of missing the game analysis helped drive them to become the powerhouse they are today.
StangPS was WAY ahead of its time. Most teams still today lack a system as powerful as StangPS was, back when we had the BASICStamp 2sx's which only gave 26 bytes of user variable memory IIRC.

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Go on page 40

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Wow... That would be a new twist. Two (or more) robots having to work together to carry long heavy game element.

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so, a teammate of mine, who for 2 years now have guessed the correct game piece (tubes, and balls[though he wasnt thinking basket]) seems to think it will be tetras, not from any hints, just from a hunch i guess. and there seems to be talk about them coming back in this thread. also, a tetra is a fish. water game.

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I wonder if the Game lab issues the game hint each year so we can come up with some weird and wacky new game ideas for them to tone down for next year's game.... huh... i wonder...

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I like it!

That wouldn't surprise me at all.

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With multiple robots all working together, just think what they could accomplish!

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So maybe we'll be allowed to use alcohol to fuel the robots this year?

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How about using alcohol to fuel the mentors???

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Im fairly certain thats the ONLY reason they release the Hint.

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If that's the case, I'm not letting anyone borrow my screwdriver!

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I really hope that there isn't an essential task that must be completed by two or more robots on the same alliance. A lot of robots aren't very strong or can't do certain things and I wouldn't want to rely on alliance partners to do some kind of critical task. I'm totally in favor of having cooperation be a part of the game, but I don't want it to hurt a good team paired with weak alliance partners. I thought coopertition was fine because the chances of none of the opposite alliance robots not being able to balance was extremely unlikely.

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Agreed (except for maybe endgame). Too much cooperation elements can overcomplicate the game unless they increase the game time and build season length.

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Just stringing together a lot of thoughts here of my own.

Seal the Deal

A DINNER, MISSED
HOLDING WEIGHT

Well a good way to miss dinner is to snack on some chips. Down that same alley, in poker, chips have weight. Back to the videos referencing cylindrical objects placed on circular objects, perhaps the robots move chips onto card-like objects.

There could be 3 values of chips like the pushpins on the rick astley photo, and by choosing him, the game hint people can reference a joker card just for fun.

Long story short, robots stack chips on cards, and maybe there's an element of chance helping rookie teams stand a chance against veterans.

Your game is poker.

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I dont know how, but in a dream Woodie Flowers accidentally showed me a letter titled "FRC 2013 Game: Space Race". Unfortunately I didnt open it as I didnt want to spoil the kickoff for me :)

Space relating to the curiosity landing?

I dont know how, but I felt COMPELLED to post it! :ahh:

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Let me continue speculating on the game hint... I know some already touched on the significance of the number 3 based on:

- the second game hint was labeled hint #3
- pi starts with 3, and pi was used to translate the numbers
- "Never Gonna Give You Up" is 3 minutes and 33 seconds long
- The Rick Astley Picture is held up by 3 different colored pins (if their intentions weren't to make it specifically 3 different colors and wanted to maintain correspondence to FIRST's color scheme, one of the red pins would be white)

But here are two things that I didn't see anyone mention that emphasizes on the importance of the number 3 here...
1)The picture of Rick Astley occurs EXACTLY 3 minutes into the music video it was taken from.?
2) Is it just a coincidence that the only pin that is different on that image is the 3rd one whether you count them as if reading lines, or if you count them like quadrants of a unit circle ***pi***?

Now, I'll recite what someone previously said about FIRST's game trends:
2011 resembled 2007
2012 resembled 2006
If 2013 will follow this pattern and resemble 2005, then the 3's are easily and obviously related to tetras.

But other than that and the unlikely possibility of having 3 alliances, any thoughts on why 3 would be so important, and how it may relate to the other game hint?

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Something I noticed. Go to the page for downloading the game manual. Right click on the image that says "Game Manual" (the box with rounded corners and the arrow that says "More"). If you click "Save link as..." the default file name is "3.htm".

I think "3" is the critical hint here. There are just too many "3"s for this to be a coincidence. Maybe 3 alliances (2v2v2), 3 minute game, or something involving 3. I'm thinking something like Tic tac toe?

(Now in the interest of full disclosure, the link for the admin manual is "2.htm" so maybe it IS a coincidence. Hmmm....)

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The fact that the screenshot was three minutes into the video was said many many many times. And yes, that IS very key I believe!

My favorite game was 2005!!!!!! PLEASE!! (At least I wont have to wait much longer :) )

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Yes i was the one who posted this. I though of the 2005 game and it had 3 goals in a red zone 3 goals in the middle and 3 goals in a blue zone. Maybe three different scoring areas. I pretty sure some people have mention this in having 3 scoring zones or obstacles. We will have to wait in see in about 33 hrs.

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I have to say, cannot contain myself any further, but have been lurking through and reading this thread nearly non stop since Wed. night (took time out to go to a Mentors Meeting/Dinner in a restaurant w/ wifey tonight - Thurs. though, and discussed the thread instead part of the time). Takes a while when you follow most links of course. Only hit 1 Trojan (Be careful of the old MFG. site for the Jaguars tech info straight from the VexBot site to the old makers of the Jag's. there's a JS.Trojan.Exploit there upon opening the page link...MS Security Essentials cleand it immed., no harm, no foul...Oh, and only 1 actual non-expected RickRolling LOL).

Way back when Win XP was about to be released to the public, before the release, Microsoft hosted a worldwide game (a real world game much like what this particular clue release has caused in this thread), and the game took weeks, people all over the world cooperated together to solve the puzzle together....(I work in the IT & computer repair/consulting field, and I work for myself, am big multi-tasker very Type A Idiot, and I could play the game while I worked and still produce fully, think FRC build season 24 hrs a day)...But that game ("Loki" you nearly killed me)...I played that game nearly 24 hrs. a day for the few weeks or months it ran and I still have every clue & post link in neat lil' folders archived on a BU HD and some great memories (I actually was a Second Place Winner and won a Zune Player from Microsoft that I gave to my middle son).

I would have been proud to have had any/ & many of you along for the ride as many of you have gone down so many roads and are on the right track I think in many places, some I think are waaaaay off base as I very well may be also.

Luckily for me, there is only less than a day and a few more hours and the whole puzzle will be revealed as far as what the clues mean.

Kudos to those that decrypted the poem, right on through to the actual poster of approx. the (Partial) of Pi....Though If I read one more reference to "water game" (though I did have to laugh about the T-Shirt at AndyMark a page or 2 ago), and am also as terrified of the scouting aspect of 4v4 or the even worse thought of 3v3v3...Yikes!

I have seen some suggest and discuss their feelings (most being Mentors of course), about how build season over extending, etc.

Sry, had to lay a foundation...Here are my guesses. Bear w/ me and my book here a few minutes...Remember I read from page 1 of the thread to the post somewhere in page 30 or so before posting once. But the quoted post above hit where I was before I hit page 24. (Methinks Frank is a very bright man, I wouldn't even be surprised to know that either Frank and/or a few on the Game Development Team also met "LOKI" along the way also).

1. The Pic of Rick. Rickrolled? HS Jr. Student son (Programmer, Driver, all around everything if it needs doing), and I were discussing the RICKPIC last night, and my Teacher Mentor Wifey says "What's Rickrolled?" We educated her very quickly. Now (my real ?)...How in the world did she make it to late 40something teaching / & researching the web like she does without ever getting Rickrolled? I need to really find out that secret (I live on the web, I research solutions to hardware/software & other problems for a living, any idea how many times I have been Rickrolled myself since 2004? Care to even guess? Think of the digits in Pi, then add a Raspberri or 2...LOL).

Or, is the RICKPIC a VERY GOOD hint? A real promise by Frank to post the pic previously to the actual posting? I looked back through his postings & I saw no proof (if you did see a previous promise to post that pic in another of his previous blog posts, please post back a link for me).

So it leads me to also think that pic has a ton of meaning, that particular frame of the vid is exactly minute 3:00 into the actual vid (any on youtube, same song, and that song can/could have many of the game element and/or title meanings all over it), then there is the "rose" window up to the right, rectangle field, the choice of pushpin colors & positions, (a light hits the gloom on the gray...Never mind that is Game Clue #3 after decryption of the poem, and I digress), but there are elements inside the pic I saw that could relate to parts of the decrypted poem easily. I'll see later if the RICKPIC has anything at all to do w/ this game later, I SURELY HOPE?! </;-)

2. The teaser clues in Frank's Dec. 18 Post and his use of 2 words/phrases hit me odly (Mesoamerican Long Count..., & not Myan Long Count...), and ‘coincidence’ ....which was anything but when on 12/21/12 a portion of what seemed like a series of #'s as "easy as pie" (but wasn't, still WOW), was served up as The Promised Clue - or "Game Clue #3" (Along w/ certain info for those interested in the KOP•Size: 6" x 7" x 30"). Very interesting stuff.



3. The title of "GAME CLUE #3" is a clue in it's own right. (3's as almost everyone knows so far, will go far)...No "coincidence" that 12/21/12=3+3+3 caused a ton of consternation, nervous energy, guessing & excitement. Personally after looking at what the bracket sheets looked like for when it was 3v3v3 back when (before my time for sure), it was a mess or appeared that way, though they got through it....I personally think 3vs3 is safe for now (I guess we'll see together in less than 36 hrs, eh?)

4. Cryptography really isn't my thing (and the ones who like cryptography here), seemed to have safely and logically deduced & reduced, and decrypted & massaged the game clue cipher into a reasonable poem result; Work explained very well & easily trusted.

A ROSE, KISSED
SINGER GREAT
A DINNER, MISSED
HOLDING WEIGHT (Though the last comma was misplaced originally in a few
of the posts). The one pointing that out and the ones
that immediately followed it turned on an instant light in
my head.(!) ("My eyes become large and the light that you
shine can be seen").

5. Straight to YouTube (Sokay, I love that Seal Song anyway and had been whistling it since the first mention of "Kiss From A Rose" by Seal), you know that tape in your brain that keeps looping until another song or piece of music replaces it (please do not deny it, humor me....I CANNOT REALLY BE ALONE IN THIS!!!) LOL Watched the vid a time or 2, off to download the Lyrics IMMEDIATELY...Hmm, they were not discussed in any of the posts so far in this thread.

http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/seal/kissfromarose.html

6. Then I began reading them and it felt (read it as you hear it), just like "Build Season" & beyond (I believe many of us during competition will really miss the "witholding weight" fellow FIRST FRC Members). But, I think based on the amount of Dinners we do miss between Saturday 1/5 & that Bag & Tag day after mid February arrives, and all that happens like a blurrrrr between those 2 points and beyond (it is time we find time to have a REAL sit down & eat at home "Dinner" or 2).

Then again looking back to last year and how different colored lights reflected differently from that ("A light hits the gloom on the gray"), gray reflective tape that was used on the backboards last year, and how neat that looked through the Camera as a target in reverse contrast...Either red, or blue, or green on a black background....So the song could mean many things to many different people.

Or it (the poem), could explain elements of the game, or the Game Title....We'll see. But, I do personally think we are going back to Bag It, Tag It, Run what ya brung, and fix it (only) if you have to during the few hrs. you have onsite at competitions (No arriving w/ that 25~35 lbs. of reserved & refined extra practiced witholding weight in the form of major fabricated pcs. or what you saw that worked real well in that YouTube vid last week).

SRY All, My book is done....Fading into the wallpaper to finish the thread....."My power, my pleasure, my pain, FRCeeeeeeee"

OK, I'd rather believe that we all make it to the Championships, Seal comes and performs a set or 2 incl. "Kiss From A Rose" for all of Mentors like Wil & the Peas did for the kids, and FIRST throws in a sit down dinner. Hey, I didn't start all this...Frank did.;)

Cg

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I love that quote.

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I'm no mathematician, but....

The odds of that cipher ending up in that 48 letter poem, and then "accidentally" like "koinkydink" also being an anagram using all 48 of those letters without a spare letter given that there are 29 non-vowels like 3 G's among others....Astronomical I'd think (though I'll bet someone will be along very soon who actually could list exactly what the odds would be).....Reversed from the anagram to the poem easily done, as it does not have to make quite as much sense. The anagram certainly did.

It is certainly easier to reverse engineer than to invent...But it isn't anywhere near as much fun!

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The fun part about the "3" guess is that the number is so ubiquitous it's almost guaranteed to come up at least once in the game, giving people a sense of warm-fuzzy validation on their predictive abilities. :)

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HI, TO SEE LOGIN, MANAGERS RISKD SEEING GREAT NERDS DID WISH

Takes a bit of time (which I was running out of quickly), and I was short just one lousy "E", but as to the possibilities, more than I originally thought given the time going into the process...The poem gave many more possible words than I figured on to begin with.

Yes, it is very STRANGE!

What if there actually is 3 game hints? It would make sense that the Rick Astley screen grab was hint #2. But was there something before or after that?

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Now that I think about it, there was that "typo" in the URL of the second game hint and KOP:

http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprogr...tual-game-hint

*kit-of-ARTS*

Web developers often make the mistake of making a typo in the URL and don't care to check them or fix them because its pretty insignificant. But with all the connections to some type of art that we've seen like Rick Astley, Seal, and maybe even the robot movie that Jack Black (who covered Kiss From a Rose) is starring in this year (the movie is based on a book by Daniel Wilson, a "roboticist"), maybe it's actually not a typo, and that's Hint #2.

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I think it's wrong to direct the number "3" to tetras, despite everyone's desire to find patterns in game design progressions. The prefix tetra- actually means 4, anyway.

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I believe people are referencing Triple Play, which had tetras as game pieces.

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A ROSE, KISSED SINGER GREAT = Seal

A DINNER, MISSED = Fast

HOLDING WEIGHT = Rope

This image,

is of three push pins, red, yellow and blue, plus a single red tack.

It's a tack. Attack.

The song lyric is "lift you up" and "let you down".

I do a lot of kayak fishing at the Hampton Roads bridge tunnel. I see Navy SEALS training quite often. When they attack, the technique they use is fast roping.

This year's game will have three teams, yellow, blue and red. It will involve ascending or descending a rope in a controlled manner. The red team will either be attacking the yellow and blue teams, or will be attacked by them.

Has there ever been a game where the game element is rope?

How likely is it that a three CIM motor gearbox is necessary to act as a winch to either lift or lower the weight of a FIRST robot in a reasonable amount of time?

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Re: ToddF's idea: I found this cool "Seal Fast Rope" video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQk2Uz6jnw4

I wonder if we'll have to climb some type of structure then deploy mini-bots by "fast rope"? Maybe they'll be a little more capable than in 2011 because they'll be controlled by Rasberry Pi computers?

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There is a different kind of kiss of a Rose that I don't think has been mentioned yet. A backdrop significant to this year's game?!

Just throwing it out there.

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Reminds me of our rookie year...

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I don't think the lower left pin (in the Rick Astley photo) is a tack, nor is it photoshopped. It's a push pin, just like the upper left, but aimed straight at the camera so we don't see any of the side. The vague shadow below is because the light source is above.

So, I think that's a red herring. Let's focus on the rest of the hint(s).

I still haven't seen a really satisfactory explanation of "A dinner, missed".

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I know most of you will think im crazy, but id love a chance to drive on regolith!as i was not part of lunacy!

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no, you don't want that. seriously.

I picked a random video from 2009 from 254's fantastic collection of robot videos on their youTube channel. This is a semi-final elims match.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Rpgf9jdVNM

Do you have any idea what's happening in that match?

Pinning. Lots of it. Totally legal in 2009. And the robots would clump together trying to pin each other, and the human players would score a lot more than the robots. And that was about it.

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I did like the autonomous mode. It was a big mindgame of trying to predict your opponents movements so you could stop them from getting away from your human player.

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No, since you have never driven on regolith, I cannot fault you for wanting to. If it isn't in a competition, it can be kind of fun slipping and sliding all over the place.

Once you have tried it, however, then I believe I could consider you crazy for wanting back on the field for a game. :ahh:

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Saw this on the FRC blog post today...

Does this mean that there will be an abundant amount of game pieces this year? (ie. lunacy)

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Not necessarily, but hopefully. It just means FIRST doesn't want the demand to exceed the supply just yet. They could have a production shortage (at the moment or throughout the entire season), in which case there are big problems. Or they want things to be fair.

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It probably means FIRST wants to make sure the game pieces don't run out in the first 5 minutes (like the talons did, for example) so every team gets to order some.

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Many teams rush out to buy a ton of game pieces right after kickoff. These are typically used for pre-season and off-season events... but if enough teams do that right off the bat, it can create a shortage for other teams.

Just look at last year... having 3+ basketballs was great for testing your robot, and there weren't really a ton of them on the field at any given time. But to put on an event, you'd need a ton just to account for wear and tear and replacement.

This decision means that every team should be able to get a couple, and then teams that need a lot for an event can go in and get what they need, if there are enough. If not, they'll be the ones waiting on backorders, not teams that need the game pieces to design around.

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What do the Curiosity rover and Navy Seals have in common?

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Probably the memory Pen/Thumb Drive w/ (is it Classmate Image on it?), which was a separate item last year I think too. There have been a number of smaller items over the years that probably arrive too late to get in the tubs but, are provided in the KOP (think I read that or asked a question and received that answer...though it was not an offical answer as it didn't really matter that much to me, we received it). Can you imagine unstacking & opening every one of those stacked plastic tubs to put a box that size in them at the last minute when for every tub someone else handles you can hand them that lil' box, and let them drop it in the tub? My guess; 4"X1"X1"=A Thumb Drive.

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That would be great. I would like to see pulleys involved, actually. Can you imagine robots hoisting each other?

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SO I WAS RIGHT!!!! :D

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Ehhhhh I'd argue that the dumper robots scored more than the human player, but I'm agreed. Lunacy basically turned into a game of tag. Except that if "it" caught you, you were screwed.

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It was? Our code was just "full speed ahead" from the center starting positions. If we were lucky, the opponent robot had some sophisticated autonomous decision code (or none at all) and we'd just pin them to the wall so our human players could score as many points as possible. :cool:

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My team found a great way to solve the problem of opponents knowing what we would do - we had like 6 different autonomous modes (plural was decided to be autonomoose), plus a seventh program that would pick randomly for each match - our opponents didn't know where our robot was going and neither did we!

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I don't know, what this says to me is that Andymark may be the only supplier of gamepieces (like they were last year) so they will probably be something unique and custom made for FIRST (tetras!).

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Not necessarily(though I personally think it'll be the case that the gamepiece will be unique). People were able to obtain whatever the ball manufacturer had left of basketballs with their branding(not FIRST branding), and IIRC they were pretty much the same as what you could get from AndyMark(with the same ball-to-ball variations, that is).

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I just ran all the numbers through a binary to decimal converter and found something very interesting, all numbers are in the order they appear. there is a very obvious repeating pattern.

11111

10111101111011000110110100001101011001000010111,

10111101111011000110110100001101011001000010111101 11101111011000110110

10111101111011000110110100001101011001000010111101 111011110110001101101111101110110010111111

10111101111011000110110100001101011001000010111101 11101111011000110110111110111011001011111110010101 0101110001110101

11111

10111101111011000110110100001101011001000010111101 11101111011000110110111110111011001011111110010101 01011100011101011010000000100101011110

10111101111011000110110100001101011001000010111101 11101111011000110110111110111011001011111110010101 01011100011101011010000000100101011110110010101101 1000010110

10111101111011000110110100001101011001000010111101 11101111011000110110111110111011001011111110010101 01011100011101011010000000100101011110110010101101 1000010110100011100101010000011010


10111101111011000110110100001101011001000010111101 11101111011000110110111110111011001011111110010101 01011100011101011010000000100101011110110010101101 10000101101000111001010100000110101001011111011111 11010111

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I was joking with students that we should have been calling Target/Walmart/Amazon to figure out what toys they discontinued over the holiday so that we could get a head start on game pieces.

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Wow? I find it hard for that to be a coincidence

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Frank was right. This hint is good.
Now, what does it mean?

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You missed the other comma... Where does it go?

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Hm.. does it show a Christmas tree shape?
Not sure about the 11111 in the middle though. The connector for an artificial tree?:rolleyes:

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I think a decent portion of CD just went into spasms just at the thought that minibots may be a deciding factor again.

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I still think this.

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...1&postcount=15

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Am I the only one who doesn't recognize the 'obvious' pattern here? Can someone clarify what the pattern is?

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Each line of the hint in binary is the same as the previous, plus another section. Atleast that's what I've gathered.

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Well, Let's build on that.

Emphasis on build. Maybe something has to be by built into a set. Like in 2011 having to hang 3 tubes in the right order to get a bonus. Or perhaps stacking different pieces to make a totem pole?

Just a thought.

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I was thinking about it, when they posted the binary, new lines have to be made due to the width limit of the text. So that means that the true shape of it would be that of the Cingular bars (old cellular company). Perhaps a stacking game as you mentioned, similar to the Tower of Hanoi (not the puzzle part, but the posts and cylinders)?

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Think that this happens when I do a little splitting of my own:

11111

101111011110110001101101 00001101011001000010111

101111011110110001101101 00001101011001000010111
10111101111011000110110

101111011110110001101101 00001101011001000010111
101111011110110001101101 111101110110010111111

101111011110110001101101 00001101011001000010111
101111011110110001101101 111101110110010111111100101010101110001110101

I put a line break at the comma. The beginning remains the same, but the ends differ... Any ideas?

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Well if the binary is "stacking" on each other through every iteration, this could lead people to believe that the line of thought that this year could employ some kind of reference to 2005/Triple Play might actually be true.

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Saw that coming...:)

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Has anyone looked at this yet?

http://www.aztec-history.com/aztec-ball-game.html

This could be this years game.

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I designed a game based on this last year... It'll be really cool if it ends up as his year's game :P

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I changed the 1's to solid blocks and the 0's to hollow blocks, then rotated the image and mirrored it. Looks a bit like the Burj Khalifa, the world's tallest building. Adrian Smith was chief architect, and Bill Baker, chief engineer, of Skidmore, Owings and Merrill in Chicago.
In this satellite view you can see it's 3-sided.

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i tryed to do a bit of bit map imaging on the binary too, to try and figure out the pattern but found nothing. I think that the best idea about the pattern (IMO) is reference to hanoi towers in the sence that we will be making stacks that have to form a pyramid type shape, the closer it is to the corret shape, the more points

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thinking about this more, its a triangular structure, 3 sides, 3 minutes in, 3 colours... maybe a connection

very interesting non the less

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My final prediction for the game involves the first lyric to Kiss From A Rose.

There will be a neutral structure in the middle of the field. It'll be the main focus.

I also think stacking will be involved, and the endgame hasn't yet been mentioned in this thread.

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Hello all, I've converted the Binary (with some clipping done) to text. The base wasnt in 8 or anything significant.

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Also, if anyone wants to look into this a bit further.
http://rumkin.com/tools/cipher/

Contains a great list of online cipher tools :)

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Nicely predicted.

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Anyone think they figured out what the hint completely meant? I am still confused...

The best I can figure out is the climbing thing is a pyramid.

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Ive figured most of it out
A rose,Kissed- I have no Idea
A singer Great- This was a mistake and should be A sinster tree, sinster being a metal steel like alloy
A dinner missed-when you turn the Frisbee upside down it looks like a empty dinner plate as in you never showed up(or MISSED) to dinner
Holding weigh- Could either be a reference to the fact weight is now used to figure the score or the fact that you need to hold yourself up.

As for Astley I have no Idea either
Team 369 is very excited

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Never gonna give you up- probably refering to the fact that after the game pieces are scored they don't get put back into play.

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You are a genius, I would have made that connection. Any guess on A rose, Kissed

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Here's my interpretation:

Pi: Round Frisbee.

A rose kissed / singer great:The first part and the first half the second refer to the song, performed by Seal. The second half of the second part (great) combines with the first to make "great seal", aka one of the Great seals of the USA, which has a pyramid on it.

A dinner missed: The fact a Frisbee also works as a makeshift plate.

Holding weight: Hanging/climbing off the pyramind.

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Something possible:

In the Rick Astley hint

It wasn't a pushpin
It was a frisbee

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If you converted the entire hint into ASCII and then converted relevant stuff from Chinese to English, you ended up with a Pyramid character, "House of Dun" and something related to pigeons/birds (Clay pigeons? Frisbees?). This might have been partially explored on page 2.

I'm certainly looking forward to everyone's creative ideas this year!
:]

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Like Frank wrote, it WAS a really good hint.

Threes all over the place - triangles (pyramids?)
Then a nice crypto (kissed by a rose, etc.)
Then a binary pyramid (here)

This one was several layers deep, someone spent a LOT of time on this (and should now get back to work ;) )

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I think I heard one of our mentors did something with GPS coordinates and the hint, and got the Great Pyramids. :eek: