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davidthefat 06-01-2013 15:53

Re: Official Ultimate Ascent Thread!
 
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Originally Posted by ThePlagueDoctor (Post 1209108)
I say 8 so it would start the turn closer to the center of the robot

Who says a 6 wheel can't?

moogboy 06-01-2013 16:15

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Originally Posted by davidthefat (Post 1209111)
Who says a 6 wheel can't?

Thoughts on 2 wheel drive?

Anupam Goli 06-01-2013 16:16

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pssh, obviously meccanum drive is best drive. ;)

slijin 06-01-2013 16:19

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Originally Posted by gabrielau23 (Post 1209109)
Well, I'm more inclined to try the Hammer. I just feel like it's got the best mix of a vertical release and how it "floats" near the end. I think if you release the hammer more vertical than horizontal over your head it's got a much better chance of going in. The only reason I could see someone hitting the target with a backhand or forehand(lol) is:
a. They don't know how to throw other ways.
b. The sheer amount of people who will try.
I think the people who know how to throw an effective hammer is much less than those who can throw an effective backhand. The one thing the backhand has going for it, though, is the (if you're right handed) left to right curve (I'm assuming it wo't S-curve over 54 feet) that gives it an excellent shot at hitting any of the three targets. And I, also am very intrigued by throwing around the barrier. It was one of the first things I looked for in the rules. There's nothing, though...but if the venue has room for the 3 foot seperation, it should be possible to fit the frisbee in there so that it curves around the pyramids.

With regards to throwing around, see this post.

The only situation where I see a backhand working is if someone slices an IO from the feeder station on the low goal side of the field.

gabrielau23 06-01-2013 19:49

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Originally Posted by slijin (Post 1209132)
With regards to throwing around, see this post.

The only situation where I see a backhand working is if someone slices an IO from the feeder station on the low goal side of the field.

Got it. lol I can just see some team who's human player got sick or something and the fill in is trying to rip backhands over the wall to score.

Joon Park 06-01-2013 23:11

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I think a lot of the future human players in this thread are underestimating the height of that feeder wall. I'm quite adamant in the fact that hammers are your only accurate option, and even then you won't see those go in too often.

gabrielau23 06-01-2013 23:13

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Originally Posted by Joon Park (Post 1209535)
I think a lot of the future human players in this thread are underestimating the height of that feeder wall. I'm quite adamant in the fact that hammers are your only accurate option, and even then you won't see those go in too often.

Definitely agreed. I've been working on hammers ever since I've heard the game. Throwing a backhand over a 6.5 foot wall, the curve is going to be ridiculous.

Team Leader 07-01-2013 10:03

Re: Official Ultimate Ascent Thread!
 
Here's a tour of the 2013 Field:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp4cILBW-xM

Hope this helps! Good luck teams!

j_chen_1676 07-01-2013 14:40

Re: Official Ultimate Ascent Thread!
 
I remember reading about the technical foul given to those that hit a robot with a frisbee while that robot is climbing, however, I can't seem to find that exact rule in the rulebook. (Even though I remember seeing it XD):ahh:

Anyone know the exact rule?

MetalJacket 07-01-2013 14:44

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Originally Posted by j_chen_1676 (Post 1209939)
I remember reading about the technical foul given to those that hit a robot with a frisbee while that robot is climbing, however, I can't seem to find that exact rule in the rulebook. (Even though I remember seeing it XD):ahh:

Anyone know the exact rule?

The Rule is G16. In fact, if hitting the robot while climbing messes up the robot's attampt to climb, it gets the points for having climbed all the way to level 3.

j_chen_1676 07-01-2013 14:47

Re: Official Ultimate Ascent Thread!
 
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Originally Posted by MetalJacket (Post 1209946)
The Rule is G16. In fact, if hitting the robot while climbing messes up the robot's attampt to climb, it gets the points for having climbed all the way to level 3.

So if a robot is hit by a frisbee, no technical foul unless the team is using a strategy specifically using frisbees to inhibit its climb?

MetalJacket 07-01-2013 14:49

Re: Official Ultimate Ascent Thread!
 
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Originally Posted by j_chen_1676 (Post 1209950)
So if a robot is hit by a frisbee, no technical foul unless the team is using a strategy specifically using frisbees to inhibit its climb?

That's what it sounds like, although that will probably end up being a rules clarification, part of the Q&A or left up to refs' discretion to decide what is "strategic" or not.

CLandrum3081 07-01-2013 15:16

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This is going to be a hard one. My team is still unsure of exactly what to do. :ahh:

We have prototypes for the shooter, but don't know how to:
A. Pick up discs
B. Climb

This is going to be an interesting one. Robots climbing to level 3 will need a strong chassis to avoid damage if they fall while climbing. The grimaces and utterances of discomfort will be even more pronounced this year than last year.

When a robot tips or falls, everyone feels it. ::ouch::

gabrielau23 07-01-2013 16:34

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I feel like picking up game pieces this year is different from yeares past. In 2009, 2011, and last year, picking up from the ground was CRUCIAL. But why? Because of the sheer amount of game pieces on the floor. This year I just don't see a multitude of pieces on the floor until the final minute or so.

fb39ca4 07-01-2013 16:37

Re: Official Ultimate Ascent Thread!
 
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Originally Posted by moogboy (Post 1209127)
Thoughts on 2 wheel drive?

Dean Kamen would be proud. :D


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