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alectronic 05-01-2013 12:35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bennetster (Post 1207855)
Why are some discs colored (6 blue discs and 6 red discs 90 white disks) can you only score with your own color?
From GLOSSARY
Quote:
SCORED: A DISC is considered SCORED in an ALLIANCE’S GOAL if any part of the DISC has crossed through the opening of the GOAL, is in the GOAL at the end of the MATCH, and the DISC is not in contact with any ROBOT from that ALLIANCE. Additionally, for a DISC to be considered SCORED in an ALLIANCE’S PYRAMID GOAL, it must correspond to the PYRAMID color.

alectronic 05-01-2013 12:36
Re: Official Ultimate Ascent Thread!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pacoliketaco (Post 1207859)
You can only score in the top pyramid goal with your own colored disks. I am not sure if you can also use them on the other goals.
Yes, you can use them as normal white disks, but then you miss out on the ALLIANCE PYRAMID GOAL points.

Gadeer Zbedat 05-01-2013 12:40
Re: Official Ultimate Ascent Thread!
 
Awesome game :))
Anyone of you can give me idea , how to climb??
(how to build the robot to climb?

Racer26 05-01-2013 12:45
Re: Official Ultimate Ascent Thread!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pacoliketaco (Post 1207852)
So after looking through the manual a few times, I haven't seen anything that would prevent the following strategy:

1. Collect 4 colored disks.
2. climb (sequentially) to the top of your pyramid
3. score disks into pyramid goal
4. retrieve falling disks from beneath goal
5. repeat steps 3&4 till the game ends
6. profit???
The pyramid goal has a floor to it, and therefore doesn't drop the disks out, also, the rule says the DISCs must be in the GOAL at the end of the MATCH to score.

However, doing so DOES turn your 30pt climb into a 50pt climb, provided you can put the DISCs in the PYRAMID GOAL with 100% accuracy.

Jacob.B 05-01-2013 12:46
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And we had hoped for an easy game this year.. Oh and btw, the angle on the goals is 68 degrees, it must be a sign! Thanks FIRST gods!

Racer26 05-01-2013 12:46
Re: Official Ultimate Ascent Thread!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gadeer Zbedat (Post 1207870)
Awesome game :))
Anyone of you can give me idea , how to climb??
(how to build the robot to climb?
I suspect we might see a return of 2056-in-2010-esque climbing devices.

Gabrielle3164 05-01-2013 12:48
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So we understand that you must climb the tower sequentially and you cannot touch more than two levels at once, but would that mean it is possible to remain on level 0, touch level 1 with an apparatus, then remove it and touch level two while your robot is stil on the ground and do the same for level three before lifting off of level zero? We are unclear as to whether this counts as sequentially or not.

Racer26 05-01-2013 12:51
Re: Official Ultimate Ascent Thread!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gabrielle3164 (Post 1207876)
So we understand that you must climb the tower sequentially and you cannot touch more than two levels at once, but would that mean it is possible to remain on level 0, touch level 1 with an apparatus, then remove it and touch level two while your robot is stil on the ground and do the same for level three before lifting off of level zero? We are unclear as to whether this counts as sequentially or not.
No. Once you remove your apparatus from level 1, you are once again touching only level 0, and so to touch level 2 would break sequential-ness. You're trying to lawyer the rule. The intent is clear, climb the tower, don't grab onto the top and pull yourself up.

cafrava2016 05-01-2013 12:55
Re: Official Ultimate Ascent Thread!
 
Is there any co-op points this year????

Bryan Herbst 05-01-2013 12:56
Re: Official Ultimate Ascent Thread!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cafrava2016 (Post 1207884)
Is there any co-op points this year????
No.

Jacob.B 05-01-2013 13:00
Re: Official Ultimate Ascent Thread!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cafrava2016 (Post 1207884)
Is there any co-op points this year????
I do not believe so..

Racer26 05-01-2013 13:02
Re: Official Ultimate Ascent Thread!
 
Just realized something else too. For all the hype about Kinect playing a bigger role in 2013, I don't even see anything about the Kinect at all.

Sky Captain 05-01-2013 13:03
Re: Official Ultimate Ascent Thread!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pacoliketaco (Post 1207852)
So after looking through the manual a few times, I haven't seen anything that would prevent the following strategy:

1. Collect 4 colored disks.
2. climb (sequentially) to the top of your pyramid
3. score disks into pyramid goal
4. retrieve falling disks from beneath goal
5. repeat steps 3&4 till the game ends
6. profit???
This is false actually, once the disc is scored it stays in the target, there is a layer of plexiglass that prevents it from falling through.

Racer26 05-01-2013 13:13
Re: Official Ultimate Ascent Thread!
 
Also, as a 2012 Field Resetter... Field Reset for this game will suck. Hard. At least frisbees don't roll like basketballs will. 130 Frisbees to sort into 6 stacks of 15, 6 stacks of 2, plus a bunch more placed on the field. Ick.

Kind of surprises me a bit, since Field Reset is a big component of the time between matches, which they've been trying to minimize.

S2K JDM 05-01-2013 13:28
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so for hanging, could we just ride up the pipe like how some teams did in Breakaway?


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