Originally Posted by Siri (Post 1212223)

I'm mostly asking for some of my kids who are intrigued (encouraging creativity and all). Even if we do implement the parts to facilitate this--which we'd only do if it were as trivial as is ever possible in FIRST, but this is possible (preferably if our collaboration pulled through on the suspendee side)--I wouldn't expect us to execute more than a handful of times. You know, like the same number of times crazy triple balance stackers needed to win a blue banner. ;) Given the number of people that wrote that off last year and similar work years prior, better to know now than at alliance selection.

Originally Posted by Player61 (Post 1212842)

Hey guys I have a ? . Does anyone know if there is a rule for going up the tower to far. As in havering your robot extending past the top of the tower?

Originally Posted by Q&A

Q.Is the section of the pyramid above the Zone 3 border as shown in Team update 1 considered a separate zone for climb legality purposes? For example, would touching the pyramid above the Zone 3 line while still in contact with the zone 2 bar be considered a violation of the Sequential zone rule or the 2 zone rule?
A.There is no upper bound to Level 3.

Originally Posted by Player61 (Post 1213071)

I was also wondering if there are any rules for going to high on the tower ? as in you robot extends up past the top of the tower?

Originally Posted by Player61 (Post 1213071)

I was also wondering if there are any rules for going to high on the tower ? as in you robot extends up past the top of the tower?

Originally Posted by danopia (Post 1213083)

Don't CONTACT anything outside of the FIELD

Originally Posted by Siri (Post 1211813)

In this scenario, I would have no intention of contacting Level 3. I would receive 30 hanging points because "The Level to which a ROBOT has CLIMBED is determined by the lowest point of the ROBOT (in relation to the FIELD)", which has nothing to do with contact but rather with position in space. As far as I can tell, there is no rule that says you must be in contact with the pyramid at the time this position is measured in order to receive points.

I realize this is not a common scenario, but we do have a potential climbing apparatus that makes suspension largely trivial, so I'm curious. I'm not claiming it'll happen often, but there were a few suspensions in 2010.

Originally Posted by Night_Shade (Post 1213159)

Does any one know if the robot's starting position can have a hook over the 30'' bar?!?!

Originally Posted by lemiant (Post 1213161)

So I'm going with no. If it is touching the bar at all, then some miniscule amount of weight is being supported by the bar, violating the "fully supported by the bar" condition. Although it depends on how lenient FIRST is (Q & A maybe). A hook that begins hovering over the bar should be fine, however.

Originally Posted by rsegrest (Post 1213325)

Question:

Are bumpers considered part of the robot? i.e. The robot frame is hanging from top rung, the bottom of the frame is suspended just above the middle rung, the bottom of the bumper is hanging just below the middle rung....what zone are you technically in 2 or 3?

Thanks guys...