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What rule says this?

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If a CLIMB is considered unacceptable (e.g. a ROBOT has touched non-adjacent Levels or more than two (2) Levels at a time), a Referee will indicate a rejected CLIMB by turning the offending ROBOT’S PLAYER STATION LED strings yellow. The ROBOT will be ineligible for CLIMB points unless and until it begins a new CLIMB from the floor, Level 0.

Actually the rules contradict what he says. The end of that little paragraph says you can drop back down and climb up again to get the amount of points that you want.

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im almost 100% positive that they intend for the robot to stay there to collect its bonus because with LOGO MOTION, team 329's minibot climbed the pole,hit the top, fell down and climbed back up several times yet did not recieve bonus points for the repeated climbs. im assuming it will be the same this year and will be corrected in an update

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not necessarily. you could design a robot intended to survive the fall, just as a precaution. my concern is that if one robot carries other robots, and they ALL fall, would that damage the pyramid? that would be at least 500lbs hitting the pyramid and the ground. the damage would probably be massive

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2011 has absolutely zero bearing on 2013.

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Eric, using old interpretations is as much of a no-no as using the animation. Notice that the definition of "SCORED" for DISCS relies on a check at the end of the match. A DISC must enter and stay. I suppose that doesn't specify the same for robots (climb and stay).

In the favour of your argument is the fact that a climb can be considered unacceptable during the match, so a robot that has climbed can be considered acceptable by lack of unacceptability.

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I know the rule, actually. What I wanted--and what everyone should provide when they answer questions--is a citation. (In this case, there is no citation to back up the assertion in question... Which is my point. People shouldn't answer rules questions unless they know the rules.)

There is a chance that there is an English barrier here--if "last 5sec" doesn't mean "last for five seconds", for example.

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Not only are the 2011 rules not valid this year, that is not the question we are asking. The question, to use the analogue of 2011 would be "does the minibot need the remain on the top of the tower at the end of the match or is it considered scored when it touches the sensor?"

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I wasnt faulting what you said, I was faulting at the guy you quoted said.

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Here's a question,

Let's say you climb and make it all the way to Level 3 and decide to come back down. How are the referees going to judge if you cleared the second level COMPLETELY while watching the rest of the match for other fouls committed during game play?

I'm all for climbing during the match. It adds to the game and creates a new strategy, but I think climbing during game play is asking the refs to do a lot on top of what they already have to do.

Just my $.02

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They've already got to watch to see if the climb is legal and inform the team if it wasn't through the yellow lights at the driver station. Seems like they'll be scrutinizing the climb enough to judge the score too during game play.

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Sure thing. The electronic poker face makes intent difficult to assess, so I was trying to clarify -- I had a hard time telling whether or not you had a hard time telling what I'd said! :D

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I think that makes it pretty clear that the official score is based on the position of the robot(s) (and Frisbees) 5 seconds after the end of the match