Originally Posted by s_forbes (Post 1212080)

Don't forget that Frisbees fly in all kinds of neat ways... be sure to exploit this ability!

Originally Posted by danopia (Post 1212164)

Why do I get the feeling that this type of flight pattern results in less accuracy on the goal? :P

Originally Posted by s_forbes (Post 1212080)

Don't forget that Frisbees fly in all kinds of neat ways... be sure to exploit this ability!

Originally Posted by Nuttyman54 (Post 1212193)

Less accurate for sure, but even if you're only making 50% of your shots, that's an un-blockable flightpath if the angles work out like drawn. If you can take each shot in under 2 seconds, 45 shots takes less than 90 seconds.

Originally Posted by Nuttyman54 (Post 1212193)

Plus if you can get a level 3 climb mechanism and dunk in those 30 seconds, now you're talking 66+50 = 116 pts by yourself. Not too shabby!

Originally Posted by cmrnpizzo14 (Post 1211902)

No, but we have only had them for 5 days or so and have not begun heavy use of them. Also, I doubt that teams will be able to warp their disks even with heavy testing because you cannot replicate the beating that they will take at a competition.



You are also not a 150 lb robot driving over the top of it.

Originally Posted by ToddF (Post 1211329)

After some time playing with the simulator, I've concluded that the ideal alliance this year is a dedicated climber and two shooters, one of which can feed directly from the station and the other with great floor pickup.

For the first part of the match, the station feeder just shoots disks downfield. If some of those happen to score, great, but more important is reducing the number of trips to the feeder station to retrieve disks. Last year, good inbounders were able to keep their robots supplied with basketballs, but this year a robot will have to provide that function, at least until the inbounders can throw disks to their robots.

From the simulator, we learned that the real bottleneck to scoring is disk supply. Good scoring robots quickly exhaust the available disks on the floor. Driving to the drivers station to get more is a real time killer, especially if slowed down by any halfhearted attempts at defense.

Think about the problem this way: After teleop, a single robot has 6 disks easily reachable on the floor available for scoring. If limited to getting disks from the feeder station, and generously assuming 5 trips to refill, that is 20 disks more. Any defense that slows down round trips from the feeder station could easily reduce the number of trips to 2 or 3.

For every disk available for scoring, you pay a price for that disk measured in seconds to retrieve it. The highest price you can pay is driving back and forth to get them, and the other alliance can drive the price higher by playing defense. The lowest price you can pay is parking at the feeder station and shooting them downfield. There is an optimum number of disks the inbounding robot would want to shoot downfield. Too many and they will lay on the field un-scored at the end of the match. Too few and the scoring robot(s) will run out and have to go hunting for more.

Originally Posted by 8885000 (Post 1212579)

We are very interested in running the 2013 game simulator you mentioned. Where can we find it???

Originally Posted by AhAhPatel (Post 1212603)

Not to mention that from the drawings, it appears that the pyramid will essentially block the high and middle goals on the walls, and the only straight shot would be for the low goal directly ahead from the load zone for blue. Having a large margin for error and the fact that you will most likely only be able to score 1 pt. goals will probably deter teams from employing such a strategy.