Chief Delphi - Wheelless Robot?

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Chris is me

20-01-2013 00:51

Re: Wheelless Robot?

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Originally Posted by kingbrandon14 (Post 1218904)

If so, then you should make a robot that climbs and dumps 2 or 3 of the disks into the 5-point goal at the top of the pyramid in autonomous. If you could do that, you could score 50 or 60 points consistently! I've never thought of that idea before, but that would be very impressive!

There is no legal way to score in the pyramid goal in autonomous. Please read the manual - you will see under the Game section that there is no point value for the Pyramid goal in autonomous, and you will also see that you have no access to the colored disks, nor can you cross the center line of the field fully anyway.

RRLedford

20-01-2013 00:57

Re: Wheelless Robot?

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Originally Posted by kingbrandon14 (Post 1218904)

At the beginning of the match are you allowed to start with 2 or 3 of the colored alliance frisbees?
If so, then you should make a robot that climbs and dumps 2 or 3 of the disks into the 5-point goal at the top of the pyramid in autonomous. If you could do that, you could score 50 or 60 points consistently! I've never thought of that idea before, but that would be very impressive!

Even if it was legal to pre-load colored disks, why would wasting the 12-18 point potential of autonomous scoring in the 3-pt goal, with a consistent, pre-aligned shooter, be sacrificed for lesser 10-15 points value of a pyramid climb & dump score later in the game?

-Dick Ledford

Chris is me

20-01-2013 01:12

Re: Wheelless Robot?

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Originally Posted by RRLedford (Post 1218949)

He was saying that the robot would shoot, presumably from the floor, in autonomous mode to get a fictional 10 points per frisbee.

Leor Buch

20-01-2013 04:05

Re: Wheelless Robot?

sorry for bringing this up, but I haven't been that involved in this years game and I haven't gotten this straight: what is the difference between regular and colored disks?

Chris is me

20-01-2013 10:35

Re: Wheelless Robot?

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Originally Posted by Leor Buch (Post 1218987)

sorry for bringing this up, but I haven't been that involved in this years game and I haven't gotten this straight: what is the difference between regular and colored disks?

Colored disks start in the human player's possession and are the only discs that can be scored in the Pyramid Goal. They can also be scored like regular discs. White discs start both on the field and in the human player's possession and can be scored in any other goal.

RRLedford

20-01-2013 16:38

Re: Wheelless Robot?

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Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 1218964)

He was saying that the robot would shoot, presumably from the floor, in autonomous mode to get a fictional 10 points per frisbee.

Now I get it. In addition to ignoring the no pre-load of colored disks, he was then also DOUBLING their value to 10 PTS. when they would be dumped into the pyramid goal, after having completed the autonomous climb in a mere sub-15 seconds.

Pretty good imagination!!

-Dick Ledford

Migriemsl

28-01-2013 20:19

Re: Wheelless Robot?

The correct colored disc also must be placed in the pyramid. If you are blue you must use blue discs for your pyramid, and if you are red you must use red discs for your pyramid.

Chris is me

28-01-2013 21:29

Re: Wheelless Robot?

Colored discs scored in normal goals are indeed valid.

CalTran

28-01-2013 22:22

Re: Wheelless Robot?

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Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 1223605)

Colored discs scored in normal goals are indeed valid.

Valid in this case meaning they would be scored as any other white disc. IE A red disc in the three point high goal is worth 3 pts.

DavisC

10-02-2013 20:09

Re: Wheelless Robot?

Wheel-less robots I can see coming from adventurous rookie/near rookie teams.

Our teams robot weighed in at 84 lbs with a 4 CIM drive and a 30 pt climb mechanism.
The weight does not include our arm. We plan to get a definite 50 pts a game. Plus some possible 1 pts.

Jrat47

10-02-2013 21:18

Re: Wheelless Robot?

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Originally Posted by jminer19363 (Post 1211862)

But since with autonomas, we start out next to the pyramid, we can climb and get easy 30 points with endgame, which WILL make an alliance want that.

Autonomous and a 10pt hang can easily offset 30pt no to mention scoring through out the match. Without a drive train you cant even be a defensive bot. Im not sure thats the right route but we will find out soon enough.:rolleyes:

jminer19363

12-02-2013 13:39

Re: Wheelless Robot?

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Originally Posted by Jrat47 (Post 1231247)

We are not talking about being a defensive bot. we are talking about having a shooter during autonomous and then climbing all the way to the 3rd level which would get us at least 30 points.

orangemoore

12-02-2013 17:36

Re: Wheelless Robot?

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Originally Posted by Jrat47 (Post 1231247)

A robot that does not have a wheels can score at 18 points in autonomous and 30 points by climbing. That is a substantial amount of points for the other alliance to recoup.

frasnow

11-03-2013 15:41

Re: Wheelless Robot?

Yes, it is possible to have success building a robot without wheels. 997 reached the semis of the 2013 Autodesk Oregon Regional using a robot without wheels. They scored 30 points in all 14 of their matches.

EricLeifermann

11-03-2013 15:46

Re: Wheelless Robot?

3055 climbed and had no wheels. So far they have, IMO, one of the most unique climbing methods I've seen. They use magnets as a stabilizer and these "knuckles" that nest in the corner bracket to climb. I think they only have 1 motor,a CIM, on their whole robot.

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