Chief Delphi - Where are you going to hang?

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Steven Donow

10-01-2013 22:03

Re: Where are you going to hang?

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Originally Posted by thetimemachine (Post 1212702)

But aren't you allowed to climb the pyramid ONLY in the last 30 seconds of the match?

No, you can climb whenever you want during the match; the only time restriction is you must be hanging by the end of the match

sarah_storer

10-01-2013 22:20

Re: Where are you going to hang?

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Originally Posted by stevend1994 (Post 1212710)

No, you can climb whenever you want during the match; the only time restriction is you must be hanging by the end of the match

Oh okay...thanks

dellagd

10-01-2013 22:23

Re: Where are you going to hang?

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Originally Posted by Mongai (Post 1212694)

Climbing to the third level is the "distraction", our team has determined. We'll go for the first level but we'll work on an accurate autonomous shooter that will ultimately break our match ties in qualifications.

In the past two years, many if not most matches have been decided by the end game. Deeming 30 points as a "distraction" seems a bit harsh for its worth.

mrnoble

10-01-2013 23:32

Re: Where are you going to hang?

Could be that the frisbees are the red herring this year. ;)

I've watched the videos of the 3-day build, and while I am thoroughly super impressed, I want to advise that shooting straight-on, sitting still in an ideal position, with no other action around the bot, is VERY different than shooting accurately under all the pressure of an actual competition. Many of you know this, of course, but it bears repeating.

Donut

11-01-2013 00:29

Re: Where are you going to hang?

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Originally Posted by mrnoble (Post 1212626)

I have a 10-ish year history with FIRST, and can't recall there ever being a robot in competition that was intentionally immobile on the floor. This may be the year, as it seems a very viable approach to the game to simply hang for 30.

While not immobile in the literal sense of the word, 469 in 2010 and 71 in 2002 were very close to it since driving around the field was not part of their strategy (71 did not have the ability to turn that year, only drive forward/reverse).

Really the title of this thread should be "Where do you think you are going to try to hang?" because there is no way that more teams will climb to the 30 point level than the 10 point level. I'll be curious how many teams even have a mechanism to attempt a 30 point climb at the end of build, let alone one that actually works well.

JJackson

11-01-2013 00:59

Re: Where are you going to hang?

Maybe 2056 will roll to the top?

Gregor

11-01-2013 01:00

Re: Where are you going to hang?

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Originally Posted by JJackson (Post 1212830)

Maybe 2056 will roll to the top?

I think they're already there. ;)

Justin Montois

11-01-2013 01:15

Re: Where are you going to hang?

I'm really surprised at the amount of people saying that are hanging for 30. It will be interesting to see how many teams pull it off.

Gregor

11-01-2013 01:30

Re: Where are you going to hang?

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Originally Posted by Justin Montois (Post 1212837)

I'm really surprised at the amount of people saying that are hanging for 30. It will be interesting to see how many teams pull it off.

I predict most teams will try to hang for 30 points during build season. Less than half will end up hanging for 10, and less than 1/4 will hang for 30.

dellagd

11-01-2013 01:31

Re: Where are you going to hang?

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Originally Posted by Justin Montois (Post 1212837)

I'm really surprised at the amount of people saying that are hanging for 30. It will be interesting to see how many teams pull it off.

Yeah. when you get into it, its alot harder than what meets the eye.

sanddrag

11-01-2013 01:36

Re: Where are you going to hang?

The increase in difficulty from 20 to 30 is significantly greater than the increase in difficulty in going from 10 to 20.

Joon Park

11-01-2013 01:40

Re: Where are you going to hang?

Definitely agreed with the fact that climbing is much harder than originally perceived... It seems the GDC did a fantastic job with creating the game this year; I don't ever recall seeing our team or the community at large so split on such big issues.

dellagd

11-01-2013 01:55

Re: Where are you going to hang?

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Originally Posted by Joon Park (Post 1212848)

I think we can all agree that this game is way harder than last year's (cue the objections....)

Sean Raia

11-01-2013 01:57

Re: Where are you going to hang?

Interesting... So if 2056 isn't going to hang, are they going to perch?

dellagd

11-01-2013 02:00

Re: Where are you going to hang?

Just saw these again:

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...hreadid=110393

This tells me that if you can hang the thirty, youre in pretty good shape :)

(Which is good news for us :P)

I wonder what MAR and Michigan would have done to the stats...

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