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Camren 11-01-2013 22:47

Prototype data
 
Hello chief delphi community,

Tonight we got the testing finished on our shooting prototype. its the half circle design. I have published the data here;
DATA

please take a look at the comments for some notes on the data

Thanks
-C

nathan_hui 11-01-2013 23:34

Re: Prototype data
 
There's not a whole lot of data, but it's some good data.

What exactly is Vertical Spread Up and how is that different from Vertical Spread Down? Same for the left/right designation.

GBilletdeaux930 11-01-2013 23:45

Re: Prototype data
 
If I were to guess, it'd be the deviation between all the shots from the mean?

What I'm seeing, is that the rubber wheel at the higher rpm was the only one that's variation was small enough to fit within the top goal every time.

nathan_hui 12-01-2013 00:14

Re: Prototype data
 
Also what would be nice is to see pics of the prototype used, so that we have an understanding of the exact conditions of the experiment.

ehochstein 12-01-2013 00:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nathan_hui (Post 1213472)
Also what would be nice is to see pics of the prototype used, so that we have an understanding of the exact conditions of the experiment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThZCOtjVJmw for a video of our shooter.

Enlarge the picture by clicking on it. You can see the different results via different colored markers or an "X" on the tape.

An X indicates 8inch rubber w/ rubber tread (plaction)
Black (lower left) indicates 8inch rubber w/ rubber tread (plaction)
Blue (lower right) indicates 8 inch Pnuematic


Image showing the results

nathan_hui 12-01-2013 00:20

Re: Prototype data
 
All I have to say is... okay...

Could you explain the numbering?

ehochstein 12-01-2013 00:22

Re: Prototype data
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nathan_hui (Post 1213478)
All I have to say is... okay...

Could you explain the numbering?

I edited my previous post with that info. Should be above the image. I am about 99% sure that the info is correct. I was in the other half of the room while this was going on.

nathan_hui 12-01-2013 00:28

Re: Prototype data
 
The spread's going the wrong way (it's 90 degrees to the ideal spread, which is a landscape oriented rectangle). I'm wondering if the feed was done by a machine, would the spread go down? Also, did the one dimple on the wheel make a difference (i.e. would a better made wheel have improved performance by a significant amount)?

Also, I hope these refrigerator targets weren't used in that hall with that trajectory - that would invalidate the entire data set.

ehochstein 12-01-2013 00:32

Re: Prototype data
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wiifi (Post 1213479)
I edited my previous post with that info. Should be above the image. I am about 99% sure that the info is correct. I was in the other half of the room while this was going on.

We'll have to check out some of those questions tomorrow!

We had the test set up much like it looks in this video. (not in the hallway) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHElJFyGW6Y

Camren 12-01-2013 00:46

Re: Prototype data
 
Alright the all in on answering post

The test set up was a fridge set up 24' 9" away from the fixed shoot roughly at 35 degrees from the table that was standing up about 2 feet from the ground.

Spread was determined based off of an point of best fit. then from the point we measure out to the farthest up, down, left and right hit.

Why is there not higher rpm pneumatic wheel test: First reason the wheel in my opinion one wasn't balanced and two didn't have the right fit to the bead, causing lots of vibration and for safety reasons we cut it off at 3500 rpm. Secondly we were happy with the accuracy of pneumatic wheel at 3500 rpm. the 80 rpm test on the treaded wheel came about after an odd spread at 3500 rpm.

In addition to Evans posts above the 12" and 0" circled were benchmarks to see how it would fly into the 3 point goal.

nathan_hui 12-01-2013 00:49

Re: Prototype data
 
Hmm. Humans downrange of the shooter. Cannon fodder much?

Now that I think about it, try clamping the shooter to a table and weighing the table down as much as possible so that the shooter doesn't jerk around.

Camren 12-01-2013 00:51

Re: Prototype data
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nathan_hui (Post 1213494)
Hmm. Humans downrange of the shooter. Cannon fodder much?

Now that I think about it, try clamping the shooter to a table and weighing the table down as much as possible so that the shooter doesn't jerk around.


All member down range of the Frisbee launcher have Ultimate Frisbee training. Do not try at home.....

DonRotolo 12-01-2013 19:31

Re: Prototype data
 
OMG that poor Fridge!

ehochstein 12-01-2013 21:56

Re: Prototype data
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DonRotolo (Post 1213879)
OMG that poor Fridge!

Not as bad as what we did today.... We put tape all over the entire thing to calculate velocity of the frisbees. Needed a way to trigger limit switches! I will have more data to post on the velocity come Monday.

Camren 13-01-2013 00:20

Re: Prototype data
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DonRotolo (Post 1213879)
OMG that poor Fridge!

We were losing too many rookies to injury. so we picked the fridge for target practice ;)

Team Leader 15-01-2013 00:46

Re: Prototype data
 
Our team is currently prototyping both a linear and curved shooter.
We posted a video on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsaWp0URvN4


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