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AllenGregoryIV 16-01-2013 01:35

Prototype Small Wheeled Shooter
 
We just posted a blog entry about our current prototype shooter. It uses much smaller diameter wheels than many teams that we have seen post of CD. We're hoping this idea might inspire some teams that are struggling to package their large shooters.

Blog Entry with full specs on the shooter configuration.

Youtube Video

frcchile 16-01-2013 01:38

Re: Prototype Small Wheeled Shooter
 
Good shooter!! what motors do you have?

AllenGregoryIV 16-01-2013 01:41

Re: Prototype Small Wheeled Shooter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by frcchile (Post 1216343)
Good shooter!! what motors do you have?

The blog entry has the full specs for the prototype. The two motors are a BB550 and a BAG motor.

James1902 16-01-2013 01:44

Re: Prototype Small Wheeled Shooter
 
Well...this is kinda awesome.

dodar 16-01-2013 07:23

Re: Prototype Small Wheeled Shooter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AllenGregoryIV (Post 1216340)
We just posted a blog entry about our current prototype shooter. It uses much smaller diameter wheels than many teams that we have seen post of CD. We're hoping this idea might inspire some teams that are struggling to package their large shooters.

Blog Entry with full specs on the shooter configuration.

Youtube Video

You sir, have just lightened up alot of robots.

Ether 16-01-2013 09:11

Re: Prototype Small Wheeled Shooter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AllenGregoryIV (Post 1216340)
Blog Entry with full specs on the shooter configuration.

Try slowing that second motor down (the BAG motor) . Try running it at ~10 volts.

See what happens. Easy enough to do.



EricLeifermann 16-01-2013 09:29

Re: Prototype Small Wheeled Shooter
 
So you're actually spinning the 2nd wheel slower than the 1st. What made you decide to do that? Seems everyone is making the 2nd wheel spin faster than the 1st.

Ether 16-01-2013 09:44

Re: Prototype Small Wheeled Shooter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EricLeifermann (Post 1216435)
So you're actually spinning the 2nd wheel slower than the 1st.

Read the blog again. He is spinning the 2nd wheel FASTER than the 1st.

1st wheel 550 geared 10:1 = 1,930 free rpm

2nd wheel BAG geared 1:1 = 14,000 free rpm




EricLeifermann 16-01-2013 09:48

Re: Prototype Small Wheeled Shooter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ether (Post 1216444)
Read the blog again. He is spinning the 2nd wheel FASTER than the 1st.

1st wheel 550 geared 10:1 = 1,930 free rpm

2nd wheel BAG geared 1:1 = 14,000 free rpm




You are correct, I read the 14000 on the chart provided by FIRST as 1400.

I withdraw my question.

ParkerF 16-01-2013 10:21

Re: Prototype Small Wheeled Shooter
 
Allen,

This is great work! I admire your lack of hesitation to give away this information. Shows you and your team's true colors.

Thanks and good luck at making it even better!

-Parker

P.S. - Have you tried shooting from the floor? What kind of angle do you expect to have to pitch the shooter to for the 3pter?

Robo Hamsters 16-01-2013 10:53

Re: Prototype Small Wheeled Shooter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AllenGregoryIV (Post 1216340)
We just posted a blog entry about our current prototype shooter.

Just wondering how you set the one gearbox to be a 1:1 ratio?

Also, anyone have any ideas as to how you mount the banebots wheels directly to a CIM?

Thanks

Botwoon 16-01-2013 11:12

Re: Prototype Small Wheeled Shooter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Robo Hamsters (Post 1216490)
Just wondering how you set the one gearbox to be a 1:1 ratio?

Also, anyone have any ideas as to how you mount the banebots wheels directly to a CIM?

Thanks

On their blog they explained that they used a Versaplanetary box with all of the gears within removed. The output shaft of the VP boxes are the same hex as the banebots wheels.

Robo Hamsters 16-01-2013 11:48

Re: Prototype Small Wheeled Shooter
 
Thanks, didn't see that there.

Also we were wondering how you direct drive the banebots wheels with a CIM.

Tom Line 16-01-2013 12:24

Re: Prototype Small Wheeled Shooter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Robo Hamsters (Post 1216526)
Thanks, didn't see that there.

Also we were wondering how you direct drive the banebots wheels with a CIM.

The reason they are using the versa may be because the output shaft on a versa is actually a .5 hex, which is an ID that banebots sells their wheels with.

Locking a stage in a planetary gear is fairly simple - look up how people did it with globe motors. It involves glueing the sun gear and planetaries together with something, then dremeling off the teeth of the planetaries so they don't touch the ring gear.

FYI, you can't really be guaranteed that you can direct drive a banebots with a cim without installing an insert and broaching it with a keyway. The unfinished bores on the banebots wheels are not actually a measured diameter: it varies. They ream it to .375, but in most cases it comes bigger than the 8mm shaft of a cim from their manufacturer, and hence will not work directly on a cim.

IndySam 16-01-2013 12:24

Re: Prototype Small Wheeled Shooter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Robo Hamsters (Post 1216526)
Thanks, didn't see that there.

Also we were wondering how you direct drive the banebots wheels with a CIM.

8mm 500 Hex Adapter Shaft (am-0588)


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