Lifting robot without pyramid contact now illegal
 

The GDC just reversed several previous Q&A responses regarding lifting robots for climb points.

Q97
Q98
To count as a legal climb you must touch the pyramid in order. This is how most people read the rule initially but they had ruled the other way, until today.

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Their rulings from last week indicated that one could receive credit for levels

A) attained a height via support other than that of the PYRAMID directly
and/or
B) did not remain in contact with the PYRAMID at all times.

The revised answers do not indicate which of these factors are against the "intent of the language in the Game Manual", but none of the Q&A rulings had ever indicated that you did not have to touch levels in order--the question has always been how many levels you had to touch in order. It is not clear based on the changed ruling whether A or B, or both, were at issue. I've submitted Q225 in an effort to clarify what violated the intent.

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It seems clear to me that the intent is for each robot to climb the pyramid on its own and not be hoisted up. That strikes me as more dangerous for both robots involved.

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Now if you hoist someone up, you need to "bang" them against the pyramid. :D

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If so, what would the purpose of G33 be?
A ROBOT may only be supported (fully or partially) by another ROBOT if one of the ROBOTS is in contact with a PYRAMID.

The Q&A has changed both the hoisting and the ramping answers.

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Rhetorical question is rhetorical ;)

It would seem that ramping/hoisting is possibly legal.

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The rules say the robot must touch the zones in order. Nothing about support or even being in contact with the pyramid at all times. Ramping / hoisting is still legal. So you still can lift another robot or two as long as they touch each zone in order on the way up.

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This :D :D

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I am rather curious as the manual did not mention nor address this situation, how do you use the ropes to remove a robot from the third level of the pyramid if it climbs from the corner? Is this even legal?

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You will be directed at each event by the FTA on how the belay will be handled for the inside climbers, outside climbers, as well as the corner climbers.

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Thanks for your help!

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Keep in mind that the ropes are not used to remove robots from the pyramid, and "you" will not use them. They are to be used by field personnel, as a safety measure only, to help prevent injury in case a team loses hold of a high-climbing robot while removing it from the pyramid.

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Seems like they need to start adding to their posts the standard CD disclaimer, "Answers to questions found on this forum are not official until after whatever competition you may attend or after IRI, and may be changed without warning. Only the official most recent GDC ruling may be interpreted as rules, and documentation must be provided if questioned at an event."
::ouch::

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You know the OP posted this nearly 3 weeks ago right?

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Not until you mentioned it, my apologies. Must week five!