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Orion.DeYoe 23-01-2013 14:33

Re: 30pt climb under 15 seconds
 
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Originally Posted by xSAWxBLADEx (Post 1219917)
I'm counting out 67, 1114, 254, etc. (just have to eliminate outliers) We all know they are going to have climbers and shoot.

In a poll asking where your team was going to climb, a team member from 2056 (I hope you know who that is) answered that they weren't going to even go for a climb.
I am 90% sure that the entire reason for the frame perimeter size change was to keep teams from doing everything well. The powerhouse teams are the the same boat as everyone else. They don't have space, and they have to make a choice: Climb or Shoot.

RonnieS 23-01-2013 15:10

Re: 30pt climb under 15 seconds
 
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Originally Posted by Orion.DeYoe (Post 1220577)
In a poll asking where your team was going to climb, a team member from 2056 (I hope you know who that is) answered that they weren't going to even go for a climb.
I am 90% sure that the entire reason for the frame perimeter size change was to keep teams from doing everything well. The powerhouse teams are the the same boat as everyone else. They don't have space, and they have to make a choice: Climb or Shoot.

Not really. We were able to make a very good shooter and decent climber and we have room for a floor pick up mechanism. It is all on how you design your robot. The key is not to package it all into a tiny area. The key is to making one thing do multiple tasks such as hot in 2012, there arm was used to pick up balls, balance, bridge assist, get over bump, and could also be used to pull the robot if there drive train failed. Just some thoughts.

xSAWxBLADEx 23-01-2013 17:00

Re: 30pt climb under 15 seconds
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Orion.DeYoe (Post 1220577)
In a poll asking where your team was going to climb, a team member from 2056 (I hope you know who that is) answered that they weren't going to even go for a climb.
I am 90% sure that the entire reason for the frame perimeter size change was to keep teams from doing everything well. The powerhouse teams are the the same boat as everyone else. They don't have space, and they have to make a choice: Climb or Shoot.

What that a poll on chief delphi? If so, was it a student or a mentor who posted it? any links?

Justin Shelley 23-01-2013 19:03

Re: 30pt climb under 15 seconds
 
I think one thing that needs to be pointed out is that robots are not allowed to shoot in pyramid goal in auto. So max points from auto is 18

mwmac 23-01-2013 19:06

Re: 30pt climb under 15 seconds
 
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Originally Posted by Justin Shelley (Post 1220744)
I think one thing that needs to be pointed out is that robots are not allowed to shoot in pyramid goal in auto. So max points from auto is 18

Potentially 42 points with a floor pickup:)

xSAWxBLADEx 23-01-2013 19:07

Re: 30pt climb under 15 seconds
 
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Originally Posted by Justin Shelley (Post 1220744)
I think one thing that needs to be pointed out is that robots are not allowed to shoot in pyramid goal in auto. So max points from auto is 18

You can pick up from the floor. Please read and understand the rules before you go to your first competition. They are very important!

CalTran 23-01-2013 19:08

Re: 30pt climb under 15 seconds
 
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Originally Posted by Justin Shelley (Post 1220744)
I think one thing that needs to be pointed out is that robots are not allowed to shoot in pyramid goal in auto. So max points from auto is 18

Max USUAL points is 18. Floor pickup you can go as high as 42 in a standard match, and prossibly more if you can be fed by an alliance.

Justin Shelley 23-01-2013 19:19

Re: 30pt climb under 15 seconds
 
Yes i know that you can pick disc up but with time constraints it'll be more rare to see a team score more then 18 in auto then a 30 pt climb.

BJC 23-01-2013 19:28

Re: 30pt climb under 15 seconds
 
Where are you guys getting 42?

You can start by holding 3 and pick up 6 from the ground.

3+6=9
9*6=54

Ankit S. 23-01-2013 19:31

Re: 30pt climb under 15 seconds
 
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Originally Posted by Justin Shelley (Post 1220757)
you can't grab the two on the center line because in auto robots aren't allowed to cross center line

You don't need to cross the center line to pick them up ;)

There's also a chance that there will be more frisbees in the middle due to teams not reading the manual properly = more possible points.

Justin Shelley 23-01-2013 19:33

Re: 30pt climb under 15 seconds
 
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Originally Posted by BeltSanderRocks (Post 1220759)
You don't need to cross the center line to pick them up ;)

There's also a chance that there will be more frisbees in the middle due to teams not reading the manual properly = more possible points.

and you can do this in 15 seconds?

Ankit S. 23-01-2013 19:43

Re: 30pt climb under 15 seconds
 
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Originally Posted by Justin Shelley (Post 1220762)
and you can do this in 15 seconds?

I believe we are talking maximum theoretically.

Realistically, I doubt that any single team will be able to score more than 30 points.

BJC 23-01-2013 19:47

Re: 30pt climb under 15 seconds
 
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Originally Posted by BeltSanderRocks (Post 1220767)
I believe we are talking maximum theoretically.

Realistically, I doubt that any single team will be able to score more than 30 points.

Don't be too suprised.

2011: 2 tube auto's. 233 even had a 3 tube auto.

2012: 4-5 ball autos. Teams would get the balls off the center bridge. Some teams could even do the side bridge by the end of the season.

2013: ???

Dr Theta 23-01-2013 20:08

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2014: Profit!

Sorry had to... :)

Littleboy 23-01-2013 20:48

Re: 30pt climb under 15 seconds
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BeltSanderRocks (Post 1220759)
You don't need to cross the center line to pick them up ;)

There's also a chance that there will be more frisbees in the middle due to teams not reading the manual properly = more possible points.

Just because they only start with 2 in auton does NOT mean they didn't read the manual correctly. Some teams may want to shoot closer in hopes of higher accuracy. Others may want to a shorter drive to the low goal so that they can dump. Don't just assume a team misreads the manual.


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