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z_beeblebrox 24-01-2013 17:31

Re: How far are people shooting?
 
Yesterday, our prototype shooter (CIM and miniCIM directly driving 2 8" AM pneumatic wheels) was easily firing across our 30' practice room with little vertical drop.

Our team plans to be versatile with shooting positions, as we have our shooter on a tilting mount, but I expect we'll primarily be firing from the back of our pyramid and from the feeder station (if we can get adequate accuracy at such a long range)

Nick Lawrence 24-01-2013 20:11

Re: How far are people shooting?
 
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Originally Posted by Kevin Selavko (Post 1221240)
You will have to shoot over the net, would be pretty impressive:p

That curve.

-Nick

philso 25-01-2013 00:58

Re: How far are people shooting?
 
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Originally Posted by z_beeblebrox (Post 1221295)
Yesterday, our prototype shooter (CIM and miniCIM directly driving 2 8" AM pneumatic wheels) was easily firing across our 30' practice room with little vertical drop.


How are your motors holding up? We were using an 8 inch AndyMark FIRST directly mounted on a mini-CIM shaft and got some good shots until the motor bearing gave out.

4057programmer 25-01-2013 01:16

Re: How far are people shooting?
 
FIRST team 4057 has a prototype shooting accurately from 55 feet out at 60% power. It was at this time we realized the hazards of testing inside as we ramped up the power and put a dent in the duct system in the school. ::ouch::

TheMadCADer 25-01-2013 01:35

Re: How far are people shooting?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SoccerTaco (Post 1221257)
If you pop forward solely to draw a foul, does 18-1 come into play here and negate the foul on the blocker?


Rule 18-1:
Strategies aimed solely at forcing the opposing ALLIANCE to violate a rule are not in the spirit of FRC and are not allowed. Rule violations forced in this manner will not result in assessment of a penalty on the target ALLIANCE .

No, the rule regarding the feeder and pyramid safe zones specifically designates that it doesn't matter who initiates contact.

18-1 is intended to prevent things like loading discs into another robot so it has more than 4 or pushing an opposing robot into one of your own partners that is trying to climb, so that the opposing robot gets huge penalties.

Wildcats1378 25-01-2013 01:59

Re: How far are people shooting?
 
Our shooter has been tested at 27 feet into the top goal consistently, but we've shot 50+ feet into someone's outstretched arms 7 feet in the air. Need some more testing
So far, some of the most important things We've learned is that:
There has to be a stable, stable back wall.
If it's a circular shooter, more compression tends to shoot it farther.
No skid tape helps a lot.

Our shooter was shooting like 10-15 feet, and it was a bit disappointing. We were about t give up, but we just moved the wheel in like 1/4 in, and it started FLINGING those things out to 40 feet or so.

z_beeblebrox 25-01-2013 17:07

Re: How far are people shooting?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by philso (Post 1221538)
How are your motors holding up? We were using an 8 inch AndyMark FIRST directly mounted on a mini-CIM shaft and got some good shots until the motor bearing gave out.

So far they're ok as the motor is well supported, but we haven't run it much yet.

Justin Shelley 25-01-2013 18:36

Re: How far are people shooting?
 
i believe our robot will be capable of shooting from feeder station but i fear a defensive robot will park infront of us nd block us. is that legal?

DanielCH 25-01-2013 18:45

Re: How far are people shooting?
 
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Originally Posted by Justin Shelley (Post 1221878)
i believe our robot will be capable of shooting from feeder station but i fear a defensive robot will park infront of us nd block us. is that legal?

As long as they adhere to space restrictions, yes.

There is no rule against simply being in the way of a shooting robot, but there are plenty of rules you could break while doing so (pinning, etc). See section 3.2.6 "ROBOT-ROBOT Interaction" of the game manual for more information.

Andrew Lawrence 25-01-2013 18:56

Re: How far are people shooting?
 
We're planning on scoring a little more than over 9000 from the goal. Give or take a little.

CalTran 25-01-2013 19:16

Re: How far are people shooting?
 
Oh, y'know, we're attending Greater Kansas City, but plan on outscoring OP Robotics at their regionals...:)

DonRotolo 25-01-2013 22:01

Re: How far are people shooting?
 
We shoot from about 60 feet away. But the frisbee doesn't go nearly that far :p
From 12 feet we're 100% easily, from 25 feet almost but not quite, we are seeing some curve at that point. They tell me 40 feet is not bad, but I have not seen it myself.

Bochek 25-01-2013 22:37

Re: How far are people shooting?
 
We're shooting about 20ft dead straight, no wheels.

DonRotolo 26-01-2013 18:02

Re: How far are people shooting?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bochek (Post 1221984)
We're shooting about 20ft dead straight, no wheels.

No wheels? Care to elaborate? Sounds fascinating.

MrForbes 26-01-2013 18:42

Re: How far are people shooting?
 
30ish feet

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rafV51xbnOk


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