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nathannfm 29-01-2013 23:56

3 Wheel 3 CIM shooter
 
No more mannequins, 3929 is getting serious, here is our new crossfield shooter prototype.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QNnHawyM00

We finished right before clean up today so we will be taking down stats on it tomorrow, enjoy.

Gregor 30-01-2013 00:05

Re: 3 Wheel 3 CIM shooter
 
Yay for 3 CIM drivetrains. :rolleyes:

Seriously, impressive distance.

ENeyman 30-01-2013 00:11

Re: 3 Wheel 3 CIM shooter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gregor (Post 1224334)
Yay for 3 CIM drivetrains. :rolleyes:

Seriously, impressive distance.

Well, two of the "CIMs" are really mini-CIMs.

LeelandS 30-01-2013 00:24

Re: 3 Wheel 3 CIM shooter
 
Wow! That's very impressive. What size and kind of wheels are you guys using, and are they directly mounted to the wheels? Those motors looks pretty closely spaced together.

Akash Rastogi 30-01-2013 00:26

Re: 3 Wheel 3 CIM shooter
 
Conveniently not mentioned: This is being run off 1 battery per CIM.

Hopefully the team will figure out a more realistic way of making their goal of a full field shot happening this week and finalize things. Crunch time doesn't leave room for too much iteration.

-Akash

Garrett.d.w 30-01-2013 00:45

Re: 3 Wheel 3 CIM shooter
 
If you still want four CIMs on your drivetrain you could put a 775 as one of your stages. You can gear it down to match the CIM's rpm using a CIMulator gearbox.

This is really cool by the way :)

nathannfm 30-01-2013 00:55

Re: 3 Wheel 3 CIM shooter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Garrett.d.w (Post 1224353)
If you still want four CIMs on your drivetrain you could put a 775 as one of your stages. You can gear it down to match the CIM's rpm using a CIMulator gearbox.

This is really cool by the way :)

Thanks!

As previously stated only one of those is a full sized CIM so our drive is fine (unless we have power draw problems, but I don't think we will be driving and shooting at the same time)
(the Mini CIM is my favorite thing about VEX Pro)
We did get a CIMulator and 2 550s with our BaneBot voucher, should come in handy even if not this year.

We are somewhat happy that we can get away with not using gearboxes and just go with something like this http://www.andymark.com/product-p/am-0588.htm

dtengineering 30-01-2013 01:04

Re: 3 Wheel 3 CIM shooter
 
Even though you are using CIMs and mini-CIMs to shoot, I suspect their current draw is very low relative to your drivetrain.

I agree that you likely won't be driving and shooting at the same time, but I wouldn't about massive current draw being a problem, even if you were doing both.

Jason

daniel_dsouza 30-01-2013 01:22

Re: 3 Wheel 3 CIM shooter
 
Darn, 3 motors in a mechanism and no Frisbee shards.

Anyone built anything where you put in frisbees and (unintentionally) shoot out shards?

nathannfm 30-01-2013 07:12

Re: 3 Wheel 3 CIM shooter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by daniel_dsouza (Post 1224361)
Anyone built anything where you put in frisbees and (unintentionally) shoot out shards?

As fun as that sounds I don't think you will be finding any of that...
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...5&postcount=39

Akash Rastogi 30-01-2013 12:19

Re: 3 Wheel 3 CIM shooter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by daniel_dsouza (Post 1224361)
Darn, 3 motors in a mechanism and no Frisbee shards.

Anyone built anything where you put in frisbees and (unintentionally) shoot out shards?

Breaking frisbees is probably mostly from wheels that don't conform to the contours of the frisbee or there is too much compression. I think the setups our students made are pretty safe as the wheels are relatively squishy.

Either way, we'll cross our fingers and hope no students "shoot their eye out." :)

ENeyman 30-01-2013 15:17

Re: 3 Wheel 3 CIM shooter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LeelandS (Post 1224347)
Wow! That's very impressive. What size and kind of wheels are you guys using, and are they directly mounted to the wheels? Those motors looks pretty closely spaced together.

The wheels are 4 7/8 in. Banebots wheels. The first one is driven directly by a CIM and the next two are directly driven off of mini-CIMs.

ENeyman 30-01-2013 21:16

Re: 3 Wheel 3 CIM shooter
 
Here is a video from today of all three motors being run off of one battery. While the distance isn't quite as impressive as yesterday's, we are still quite pleased.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcHiwdZuMKM

Jeffy 30-01-2013 22:19

Re: 3 Wheel 3 CIM shooter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ENeyman (Post 1224895)
Here is a video from today of all three motors being run off of one battery. While the distance isn't quite as impressive as yesterday's, we are still quite pleased.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcHiwdZuMKM

In this video, you will notice the Frisbee flies out of the shooter at an angle. I have seen this happening in videos, but it wasn't noticeable in our prototype. While it may not be an issue for most, it can make scoring a bit tougher.

When you find a way to solve the issue (which I think you will), I'm sure I wouldn't be the only one eagerly awaiting to know what causes the "off angle" exits of Frisbee. Much appreciated if you don't mind.

nathannfm 30-01-2013 23:13

Re: 3 Wheel 3 CIM shooter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ENeyman (Post 1224895)
Here is a video from today of all three motors being run off of one battery. While the distance isn't quite as impressive as yesterday's, we are still quite pleased.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcHiwdZuMKM

Note that yesterday we were shooting at a 22 degree angle and today a 0 degree angle, we tried to go up to 10 degrees but hit the first light on the ceiling there.

Also, I have a feeling the curve may be due to the change in position/ compression of the opposite rail because the one we had on yesterday was coming off. As well as the change in possession of the bar that keeps them from riding up.
So many variables! :confused:


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