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ctccromer 30-01-2013 08:56

What is YOUR autonomous strategy?
 
I'm starting to program our robot's autonomous mode(s) and not sure what all would be best for us to do. We've kinda decided (for now) to shoot our 3 discs, back up a little, and turn around so that when the period ends, we can immediate dash for the feeder station

Anyone thought of something creative or that some people like us might overlook?

Andrew Lawrence 30-01-2013 09:01

Re: What is YOUR autonomous strategy?
 
We're pretty similar. Shoot 3 discs, back up to the center line, and wait for teleop to start.

ToddF 30-01-2013 09:11

Re: What is YOUR autonomous strategy?
 
Shoot three disks, drive forward to gather four more disks from the floor, shoot those disks. 42 points.

JesseK 30-01-2013 09:20

Re: What is YOUR autonomous strategy?
 
If you can shoot and move in autonomous, why not have it to where you can start at one of the back corners in autonomous? The left/right margin of error for the middle goal is quite large and it would get you out of the way for autonomi that need the middle.

We're muddling around with a 9, 7, and 5 disc autonomous modes. Who knows what we'll actually get working though. Luckily it's easy to change our gear ratio to one of 4 possibilities to find the balance of PID tuning and time minimization.

Anupam Goli 30-01-2013 09:32

Re: What is YOUR autonomous strategy?
 
A 7 disk autonomous is a lot harder than people are making it to be, but that's on our table of autonomous outcomes we're looking at, but we'll probably save it for a rainy day (i.e. a match with almost no hope of winning).

Lightfoot26 30-01-2013 09:56

Re: What is YOUR autonomous strategy?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JesseK (Post 1224422)
We're muddling around with a 9, 7, and 5 disc autonomous modes. Who knows what we'll actually get working though.

Just about where we are as well. Hopefully I can get my hands on the final robot soon to start making the final tweaks!

karomata 30-01-2013 10:07

Re: What is YOUR autonomous strategy?
 
My team is pretty much doing the same. Score frisbees. Maybe go somewhere. Theres probably going to be a few climbing autonomouses. I really want to see a defensive autonomous, but I have no idea how it would work, or what it would do.

Jared Russell 30-01-2013 10:29

Re: What is YOUR autonomous strategy?
 
Our robot will use sensors to collect information about its environment, then discard that information and drive into a wall.

Anupam Goli 30-01-2013 10:33

Re: What is YOUR autonomous strategy?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jared341 (Post 1224449)
Our robot will use sensors to collect information about its environment, then discard that information and drive into a wall.

Isn't this everyone's autonomous? :p

Greg Young 30-01-2013 10:41

Re: What is YOUR autonomous strategy?
 
Quote:

Our robot will use sensors to collect information about its environment, then discard that information and drive into a wall.
We've done that autonomous. After several years of refinement we decided to skip the information collection and just drive into the wall at the earliest opportunity.

Ryan Caldwell 30-01-2013 10:51

Re: What is YOUR autonomous strategy?
 
Ours is to be adaptable to our partners.

We plan on having 5 different starting positions with several variations of movements and shooting that will net anywhere from 18-42 points.

Our hopes are a picked alliance will be attempting 78 points for an autonomous score.

TheCrayButton 30-01-2013 11:03

Re: What is YOUR autonomous strategy?
 
Our team plans on either just shooting 3 discs, or starting in back of the pyramid, shooting 3, and then picking up 2 more and shooting those. We want to be flexible too for other teams.

MrForbes 30-01-2013 11:07

Re: What is YOUR autonomous strategy?
 
I don't think we have a strategy yet, but we might come up with a tactic such as having the robot shoot three discs, then sit there with a big grin on it's face

jeremy callahan 30-01-2013 11:15

Re: What is YOUR autonomous strategy?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Lawrence (Post 1224417)
We're pretty similar. Shoot 3 discs, back up to the center line, and wait for teleop to start.

oh so you are going for floor pick up? :)

nuggetsyl 30-01-2013 11:15

Re: What is YOUR autonomous strategy?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jared341 (Post 1224449)
Our robot will use sensors to collect information about its environment, then discard that information and drive into a wall.

Are you copying us? We are building the same exact thing. We are hoping to win an award for it.

NXTGeek 30-01-2013 11:24

Re: What is YOUR autonomous strategy?
 
We designed our robot to only shoot into the top goal from the top of the pyramid, so in autonomous we climb up the pyramid, shoot one frisbee, climb down, pick up another frisbee, climb up, shoot, climb down, and then drive in a donut on the center line.
Did I mention that we can only shoot the frisbees sideways?

Anupam Goli 30-01-2013 11:26

Re: What is YOUR autonomous strategy?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nuggetsyl (Post 1224470)
Are you copying us? We are building the same exact thing. We are hoping to win an award for it.

hmm... This is a reply to Jared, who's on 341, and the poster above is from 25... and both mentioned driving into a wall... I'd say that 25 and 341 are onto something here...

Robogineer1649 30-01-2013 11:28

Re: What is YOUR autonomous strategy?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ToddF (Post 1224421)
Shoot three disks, drive forward to gather four more disks from the floor, shoot those disks. 42 points.

If everything goes according to our plan this will be our autonomous strategy but additionally if time permits back up to the center line. Or ....... ram into a wall.

Tom Line 30-01-2013 11:32

Re: What is YOUR autonomous strategy?
 
I don't know why so many people are ramming the wall when there are so many more interesting options. You can ram a pyramid upright and flip over. Or, consider the case where you push your floor frisbees down to the other team then shoot your frisbees into their goal. How about just turning around and launching all of yours downfield? Or the classic zoom around running into all your partners.

You are REALLY not challenging yourselves.

JM033 30-01-2013 11:43

Re: What is YOUR autonomous strategy?
 
We'll be scoring the preloaded disks, then do circles for the rest of auton.

Ken Streeter 30-01-2013 11:46

Re: What is YOUR autonomous strategy?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jared341 (Post 1224449)
Our robot will use sensors to collect information about its environment, then discard that information and drive into a wall.

In our rookie year, we did a slight variation of that:

Our robot will use sensors to collect information about its environment, then unintentionally discard that information and drive into a wall an opposing robot that is 50' away at the other end of the field.

Amazingly enough, the unintentional bug got us picked for an elimination alliance as an "enforcer"!

kmusa 30-01-2013 13:42

Re: What is YOUR autonomous strategy?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jared341 (Post 1224449)
Our robot will use sensors to collect information about its environment, then discard that information and drive into a wall.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wing (Post 1224450)
Isn't this everyone's autonomous? :p

Not at all. Some of us like to just sit there, saving our energy for Tele-Op. :D

z_beeblebrox 03-02-2013 11:24

Re: What is YOUR autonomous strategy?
 
Score 3 preloads. If I have programming time, maybe ignore sensors and drive into a wall, not ignore sensors and drive into a wall (and/ or pick up and shoot more discs)

Jay O'Donnell 03-02-2013 13:00

Re: What is YOUR autonomous strategy?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by karomata (Post 1224438)
I really want to see a defensive autonomous, but I have no idea how it would work, or what it would do.

Considering that you cannot cross the center line until teleop, I can't think of any way to play defense at all.

XaulZan11 03-02-2013 14:37

Re: What is YOUR autonomous strategy?
 
While it may not work every match, we'll have the ability to play some defense in auto mode.

Gregor 03-02-2013 14:53

Re: What is YOUR autonomous strategy?
 
Go straight, turn left.

nikeairmancurry 03-02-2013 15:04

Re: What is YOUR autonomous strategy?
 
Wait....... Burn some rubber.... Make cool noises... Have lights flash.... End auton..

Justin m 03-02-2013 15:39

Re: What is YOUR autonomous strategy?
 
Turn 90 degrees to the left, shoot. ;)

Dragonking 03-02-2013 15:52

Re: What is YOUR autonomous strategy?
 
The only way to play defense during auton is to shoot down your opponent's shots with your own discs

Team3266Spencer 03-02-2013 16:13

Re: What is YOUR autonomous strategy?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragonking (Post 1227001)
The only way to play defense during auton is to shoot down your opponent's shots with your own discs

I think that would be pretty sweet lol. But anti-productive considering all your disk are on the other side of the field now.

sg999 03-02-2013 16:40

Re: What is YOUR autonomous strategy?
 
It seems like we'll be the only ones just dumping 2 or 3 frisbees directly into the low goal then. I'm curious what the median autonomous score is going to be for this year.

LaurenMary 03-02-2013 17:49

Re: What is YOUR autonomous strategy?
 
Our team's strategy is to shoot 3 discs at the top goal, using vision code to aim at the targets. We definitely want our robot to be positioned at the front of the period facing the targets.

nikeairmancurry 03-02-2013 17:52

Re: What is YOUR autonomous strategy?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragonking (Post 1227001)
The only way to play defense during auton is to shoot down your opponent's shots with your own discs

Didn't this happen last year in teleop?

Libby K 03-02-2013 18:07

Re: What is YOUR autonomous strategy?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jared341 (Post 1224449)
Our robot will use sensors to collect information about its environment, then discard that information and drive into a wall.

That's what you're striving for? 1923 usually does that with barely any effort! :D

Gregor 03-02-2013 18:21

Re: What is YOUR autonomous strategy?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Libby K (Post 1227043)
That's what you're striving for? 1923 usually does that with barely any effort! :D

As in life, there's a difference between doing something and doing something well. In this case, your wall driving is quite sub-par to 341. Sorry, the truth hurts.

kingbrandon14 03-02-2013 18:27

Re: What is YOUR autonomous strategy?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ToddF (Post 1224421)
Shoot three disks, drive forward to gather four more disks from the floor, shoot those disks. 42 points.

We are using the same strategy for autonomous. 42 points! We will start from the back of the pyramid, right in the middle

apalrd 03-02-2013 19:29

Re: What is YOUR autonomous strategy?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LaurenMary (Post 1227034)
Our team's strategy is to shoot 3 discs at the top goal, using vision code to aim at the targets. We definitely want our robot to be positioned at the front of the period facing the targets.

There are two potential issues with this:

-To start at the front of the pyramid, you can only start with 2 discs, not 3.
-If you never move from your starting location, why would you need vision? You know the initial starting conditions, so you know exactly how to move to shoot correctly.

bhumudar 03-02-2013 22:47

Re: What is YOUR autonomous strategy?
 
See, no one is looking at the big picture...

714 will make a routine with the capability to climb the pyramid and shoot from there, but instead we will climb the safety net on the sides of the field and shoot into our opponents goals!


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