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MrTechCenter 04-02-2013 00:17

Re: Predict the most violated rule of the year
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gregor (Post 1227157)
This logic makes sense.

Red robot hits blue while contacting red pyramid with the intent to escape, foul on blue.

Red robot hits blue robot while contacting red pyramid with the intent to draw a foul, foul on blue and red?
What happens when red robot is trying to draw a foul?

I think it would be more like:

Red robot hits Blue while Red is in contact with red pyramid, foul on Blue.

Red robot hits Blue while Red is in contact with red pyramid multiple times, technical foul on Red.

Gregor 04-02-2013 00:22

Re: Predict the most violated rule of the year
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MrTechCenter (Post 1227201)
I think it would be more like:

Red robot hits Blue while Red is in contact with red pyramid, foul on Blue.

Red robot hits Blue while Red is in contact with red pyramid multiple times, technical foul on Red.

In your second situation, blue should still get a foul for each time red touches them according to G30, even if Red gets a technical foul for violating G18-1.

I think it would make sense to add an exemption to G18-1 so that red doesn't get fouled in this situation. Blue robot should just back away, not red's fault they are there.

Koko Ed 04-02-2013 04:37

Re: Predict the most violated rule of the year
 
Didn't we already have a thread about this earlier in the season?
UPDATE: Found it!

Peter Matteson 04-02-2013 07:33

Re: Predict the most violated rule of the year
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NXTGeek (Post 1227123)
I seriously don't know how the refs are going to enforce the 54" cylinder rule...

Ditto.

THis was the most violated rule in 2008 and no one was called for it.
I see the same thing happening this year.

pandamonium 04-02-2013 09:39

Re: Predict the most violated rule of the year
 
The blocading rule will see some action. Pretty much makes 2 on 1 defense a penalty with all of the game obstacles this year.

Lil' Lavery 04-02-2013 10:56

Re: Predict the most violated rule of the year
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Grim Tuesday (Post 1227045)
Most years we see one rule that rookies and people who didn't read the manual carefully didn't notice -- for example the rolling over of balls in 2010 counted as them entering the frame and was illegal.

I don't think the big issue was that teams didn't know about that rule, so much as it was often a hard scenario to avoid. Especially for teams who didn't have much time to train their drivers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Matteson (Post 1227254)
Ditto.

THis was the most violated rule in 2008 and no one was called for it.
I see the same thing happening this year.

I recall one very very successful team that violated the rule each time they picked up a trackball.

Jon Stratis 04-02-2013 11:08

Re: Predict the most violated rule of the year
 
For robot rules, I'm betting on allowable motors - we'll probably see a bunch of FP motors (heck, we still see globe motors, and those haven't been legal for a long time!). The frame perimeter could give teams trouble as well.

For game rules... the most called one is going to be contact in the loading zone. The most violated one will likely be the 54" cylinder.

2348humanplayer 05-02-2013 15:28

Re: Predict the most violated rule of the year
 
If I had to guess, it'll be the </= 4 frisbee limit. I think teams will forego that to score more frisbees, especially the climbers.

dodar 05-02-2013 15:29

Re: Predict the most violated rule of the year
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2348humanplayer (Post 1228190)
If I had to guess, it'll be the </= 4 frisbee limit. I think teams will forego that to score more frisbees, especially the climbers.

Then there will be a lot of yellow and red cards this year.

JesseK 05-02-2013 15:41

Re: Predict the most violated rule of the year
 
It's hard to come up with a robot rule that is violated on the field. For robots to pass inspection, they're supposed to meet all of the robot rules by definition.

For games rules, it's a tough one compared to previous years.
[G01] (don't enter field when green LED's aren't on) will probably be violated a bit in Week 1.
[G24] B vs [G24] D is very subjective, though I don't think we'll see it too often.


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