Re: Discs Bounce Out of Goals
 

If you dump in the 5-point goal of a pyramid, there is a chance for them to cross the goal opening, but still touch your dumping mechanism.

Re: Discs Bounce Out of Goals
 

You're right. I was thinking only of the other goals. According to the game questions clarifications (#71), if the discs bounce out, they do not count.

Re: Discs Bounce Out of Goals
 

As in every year, the field IS the field. It is the same field for every team. I hate to see scored Frisbees bounce out, but it will probably happen to every team, unless someone has a shooter that floats the disks in to a soft landing.

I suspect that most teams have been designing for longer, faster, harder shots. Makes me think my original idea of a robot to scoop them up off the floor and dump them in the low goal might not have been such a bad idea after all!

Dr. Bob
Chairman's Award is not about building the robot. Every team builds a robot.

Re: Discs Bounce Out of Goals
 

Has FIRST published an official change to the chain structure of the goals? I don't remember seeing it in an update, but the week zero scrimmages clearly had the chain strands connected at the bottom.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWF3hHrAwxg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xN9IU...ature=youtu.be

Surprised no one has brought this up on CD to my knowledge. Am I just seeing things?

Seeing all of the unconnected strands in the reveal videos last night brought it to mind again.

Re: Discs Bounce Out of Goals
 

Balls bounced out of the goal in 2006.

The playing field characteristics were clearly documented.

I think teams could have reasonably predicted that having discs "stop" inside the goal would be a factor.

Jason

Re: Discs Bounce Out of Goals
 

Many teams, mine included, didn't include chains in our goals. We just had a hole.

Re: Discs Bounce Out of Goals
 

Seems like a great lesson on the importance of emulating the actual environment as closely as possible while testing.

Re: Discs Bounce Out of Goals
 

I don't see what you mean.
The chains appear to be swinging quite freely.

Re: Discs Bounce Out of Goals
 

Between 6 and 14 seconds on this video it sure seems like something is connecting the bottom edge of the chains to each other. They move together like a curtain. If they were not connected at the bottom I would expect the strands to fly in opposite directions from the initial point of contact with the disc. The bottom edge is free from the box, but has limited freedom from the neighboring strands.

At 1:31 I can see that the strands separate enough for a disc to pass bewteen them, but the bottom of the chains do not whip apart as they should if they were truly free from each other.

Of course if no one at the scrimmage can confirm this set-up it must be my own imagination run a muck.

Re: Discs Bounce Out of Goals
 

I do not know if they have made the change you are pointing out, but our FTA told us that they have made multiple revisions to the field. I know one of them is that some kind of angled bars are being placed at the top of the goals to keep discs from being shot out the back of the goal when they enter at a high angle of attack.

Re: Discs Bounce Out of Goals
 

The actual field drawings, referenced in recent update, actually show a cable connecting the chains across the bottoms.

Re: Discs Bounce Out of Goals
 

See the updatehere.


2-22-13 team update

Re: Discs Bounce Out of Goals
 

Part GE-13809 Cable Assembly was what I was looking for in the updated drawings. Thanks for helping me locate it. Completely overlooked that they had changed the drawing last night.