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MooreteP 16-02-2013 12:19

First Autonomous Points and First Climb of the Season
 
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Here is a video of the first autonomous points of the season.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWF3hHrAwxg

And here is a video of the first climb of the season.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3ZP7t6bTCg

Both courtesy of team 181, Birds of Prey, Hartford Public High School.

This is, after all, a shakedown.

I am excited to see how this game develops over the next two months.

I will try to post more later.

PS Carnack was wrong.

MooreteP 16-02-2013 18:29

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Three 10 Point Climbers.

I think we will see a lot of these this year.

Kpchem 16-02-2013 18:54

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I'm curious, what was Car Nack wrong about?

Grim Tuesday 16-02-2013 19:09

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Originally Posted by MooreteP (Post 1234515)
Three 10 Point Climbers.

I think we will see a lot of these this year.

At a certain point they will just be done to cancel each other out. How mad would people be if the GDC made a 10 pt climb down to 5 or 0.

nikeairmancurry 16-02-2013 19:13

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Originally Posted by Grim Tuesday (Post 1234536)
At a certain point they will just be done to cancel each other out. How mad would people be if the GDC made a 10 pt climb down to 5 or 0.

I could see 5, but never 0.

Barry Bonzack 17-02-2013 02:27

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I would have to argue the "season" doesn't begin until the official Week 1 of regionals. That being said, great job, and best of luck this year!

lorem3k 17-02-2013 02:49

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Originally Posted by Kpchem (Post 1234531)
I'm curious, what was Car Nack wrong about?

Based on the fact that he attached the score shot, I'd guess it was about his prediction that the automatic scoring system would be inaccurate.

Anupam Goli 17-02-2013 03:00

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Originally Posted by lorem3k (Post 1234855)
Based on the fact that he attached the score shot, I'd guess it was about his prediction that the automatic scoring system would be inaccurate.

I'll only call Car Nack wrong if I see the scoring accurate enough for 67 and 469 on the same alliance.

MooreteP 17-02-2013 16:38

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Originally Posted by Kpchem (Post 1234531)
I'm curious, what was Car Nack wrong about?

See this http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=111676

I was referring to his prediction of the average score.

This is a screenshot of the score to show how many points were scored in an early match at the Suffield Shakedown to refute Car Nack's prediction.
While it isn't much higher than 13 - 3, I will now predict that the average match score will be a combined score of 30 in the first week, rising to 60 by the last week, and hitting over 100 for the Eliminations at the Championship Event.

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Originally Posted by lorem3k (Post 1234855)
Based on the fact that he attached the score shot, I'd guess it was about his prediction that the automatic scoring system would be inaccurate.

The automated real time scoring system appears to be working just fine so far.
They have a clever set up if you get a chance to see it up close.

The quality of the robots at this scrimmage was less than usual. There were many no-shows and only 13 teams in the finals.
The snow storm last week locked some teams out of their schools for four days including the second to last weekend.
This is a crucial weekend.
It is too bad that FIRST decided not to give a few days grace for some of these teams as they have in the past. Given that we now bag and tag, rather than ship and lade, this would be easy to have done.

PayneTrain 17-02-2013 17:29

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Originally Posted by MooreteP (Post 1235102)
See this http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=111676

...and hitting over 100 for the Eliminations at the Championship Event.

Maybe per-alliance.

CalTran 17-02-2013 17:34

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Originally Posted by MooreteP (Post 1235102)
See this http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=111676

I was referring to his prediction of the average score.

How does his prediction of there going to be a match where all three robots on an alliance will score 30 climbing points predict an average score?

Cory 17-02-2013 17:35

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Originally Posted by MooreteP (Post 1235102)
The snow storm last week locked some teams out of their schools for four days including the second to last weekend.
This is a crucial weekend.
It is too bad that FIRST decided not to give a few days grace for some of these teams as they have in the past. Given that we now bag and tag, rather than ship and lade, this would be easy to have done.

The only reason we have ever gotten more time is because FedEx could not physically get to all the teams in time due to weather. It had nothing to do with giving teams time to make up for snow days.

MooreteP 17-02-2013 18:00

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Originally Posted by PayneTrain (Post 1235139)
Maybe per-alliance.

100 points per alliance? Maybe.
A 30 point climber with four discs, a 20 point climber, fair shooter, and a 10 point climber, great shooter. 60 climb points plus 60 points in discs. You may be right.

I will venture that defensive strategies will start to take hold in the final weeks and during the Eliminations on each Championship field.
Impeding Feeder stations and starvation strategies will limit the totals for discs.
Giving the advantage to a 30 point climber that can score in the pyramid goal.

I may go to 150 total for a match on average, but not 200. Maybe on Einstein?


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