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mashygpig 17-02-2013 14:59

Re: Pre-Stop Build Scrimmages - What Have We Learned So Far?
 
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Originally Posted by PayneTrain (Post 1234930)
Which is weird, because in extremely advanced tests™ my teams did (throwing them at a wall), we found the discs would land upside down around 70% of the time. Maybe it's a human thing.

This brings up an interesting point, it makes sense for most to land upside down due to the frisbee's shape, but is this what everyone else is observing? Are most landing upside down? I haven't seen many matches so I'm just wondering.

Cory 17-02-2013 15:23

Re: Pre-Stop Build Scrimmages - What Have We Learned So Far?
 
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Originally Posted by PayneTrain (Post 1234930)
Which is weird, because in extremely advanced tests™ my teams did (throwing them at a wall), we found the discs would land upside down around 70% of the time. Maybe it's a human thing.

We had 3 or 4 mentors spend 30 minutes trying to make frisbees land upside down and only one frisbee did.

Koko Ed 17-02-2013 17:51

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Originally Posted by Ty Tremblay (Post 1234916)


What to you mean by bad matches?

There were some matches where there were more penalty points than scores by team skill and there were very low scoring matches where nothing much happened at all.

PayneTrain 17-02-2013 18:14

Re: Pre-Stop Build Scrimmages - What Have We Learned So Far?
 
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Originally Posted by Cory (Post 1235074)
We had 3 or 4 mentors spend 30 minutes trying to make frisbees land upside down and only one frisbee did.

Well... I don't even know what to believe in anymore :/

Mike Norton 17-02-2013 20:04

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Any team get the color ones on top for the 5 points?

nikeairmancurry 17-02-2013 20:24

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Originally Posted by Mike Norton (Post 1235238)
Any team get the color ones on top for the 5 points?

One team was able to a few times.. Although the team number escapes me..

JB 17-02-2013 20:28

Re: Pre-Stop Build Scrimmages - What Have We Learned So Far?
 
Did anyone see teams going for the floor Frisbee's during autonomous.

GBK 17-02-2013 20:32

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We saw a West Michigan team yesterday at the 2771 Code Red lab shooting into the goal at the top of the tower at will. They are also hitting the three point shot without any trouble as well. I will not spoil their reveal by providing their team number. We also saw a team making high percentage shots from the feeder station.

Bill_B 17-02-2013 20:50

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Originally Posted by nikeairmancurry (Post 1235247)
One team was able to a few times.. Although the team number escapes me..

558 had success with the pyramid goal. Their tall shooter would lob nearly vertically. When I saw it first shooting under the 2 and 3 goals, I wondered what they were trying. Strangely they only shot three at a time. Their first try I saw for the pyramid was three non-scoring white disks. It drew cheers from the crowd. Other tries with colored disks had varying success.

Kristian Calhoun 17-02-2013 20:57

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Originally Posted by jb1403 (Post 1235252)
Did anyone see teams going for the floor Frisbee's during autonomous.

Yes. ;)

Anupam Goli 17-02-2013 21:51

Re: Pre-Stop Build Scrimmages - What Have We Learned So Far?
 
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Originally Posted by jb1403 (Post 1235252)
Did anyone see teams going for the floor Frisbee's during autonomous.

At the Atlanta Scrimmage, it looked like 2415 was trying to set one up. Not sure if they succeeded or not.

Just some observations from my perspective:

1) cross court shooters are having trouble shooting accurately from far away. This was to be expected though.
2) Lots of teams are shooting their frisbees with an insane escape velocity, causing bounce back and inconsistency
3) The field really is open. Quick drivetrains are not being stopped

DELurker 17-02-2013 22:22

Re: Pre-Stop Build Scrimmages - What Have We Learned So Far?
 
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Originally Posted by Gregor (Post 1234666)
3 bolts per wheel on a dead axel setup isn't a good idea.

Can you give a little more detail on that? It sounds like a good learning moment ... and probably a really entertaining video or photo set...

FRC BOTMOM 17-02-2013 22:26

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Any teams that just went for the 30pt climb and were successfull?

MarcD79 17-02-2013 22:31

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Here are my observations from Suffield, though might not reflect the rest of the country.
1. Almost all Frisbees I saw were face up on the floor.
2. There were a few colored Frizbees being scored on the pyramids.
3. Only one robot was a floor retriever & only used it early, but I saw a huge opportunity for additional points to be made by scooping on the same side as they were shooting, possibly eliminating lost time going to their feeder stations.
4. I saw no bounce-outs at the Suffield. The flexibility of the lexan & the give of the chains eliminated that.
5. Due to the timing of last weeks major snow storm, we ended up with only 14 teams at Suffield. I know with that event, the robots that were there weren't anywhere near 100%. Also, there were so many teams that weren't there who have the potential to devastate their opponents.
6. The frenzy during the last 30 seconds was incredible during finals. With so many being tossed, it was hard to keep track of who was getting them in. I do know that the HP from 177 had a rocket arm and actually slammed the disks so hard into the player station that they almost deflected in half. He did make shots into the top goal. One thing for sure, anybody near the field will need to be paying attention at all times with powerhouses like that. Getting hit with one of those is going to be dangerous.
7. All in all I see the point scoring increasing rapidly as we go into week 1.

cmrnpizzo14 17-02-2013 22:40

Re: Pre-Stop Build Scrimmages - What Have We Learned So Far?
 
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Originally Posted by Justin Montois (Post 1234804)
Did anyone see any Issues with bounce out? (Discs bouncing out of the goals)

Today at the Rally I saw X-Cats (191) having a ton of trouble with disks hitting the chains and bouncing out.


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