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GaryVoshol 26-02-2013 18:23

Re: Extending above 60"
 
"and/or" is logically meaningless. It is only put into documents by people who don't know "or" means one or the other or both. Or maybe they think their audience doesn't know.

Touching the pyramid or touching the carpet in your auto zone, you can extend to 84".

Jaxom 26-02-2013 18:44

Re: Extending above 60"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jimwick (Post 1240771)
our shot blocker is made of flexible fiberglass rod. it is pretty flimsy. it does not attempt to actually stop the shot, just deflect it enough so that it misses!

Excellent idea. Did you consider a couple of rods, so that your placement doesn't have to be exact, and doesn't have to keep moving as the shooter moves?

dchartley 26-02-2013 19:49

Re: Extending above 60"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GaryVoshol (Post 1240791)
"and/or" is logically meaningless. It is only put into documents by people who don't know "or" means one or the other or both. Or maybe they think their audience doesn't know.

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Which exactly why it needs to be clarified.

jspatz1 26-02-2013 20:21

Re: Extending above 60"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaxom (Post 1240806)
Excellent idea. Did you consider a couple of rods, so that your placement doesn't have to be exact, and doesn't have to keep moving as the shooter moves?

That's why a full court shot blocker is so easy, it does not need to be wide because the shooter CAN'T move. Once their aim is tweaked in, you need only deflect the shot slightly to shut it down.

Garrett.d.w 26-02-2013 21:17

Re: Extending above 60"
 
Our robot was going to be a dedicated climber/dumper, until the delay in shipping on our pistons cost us precious tweaking time. This resulted in our robot having a vertical side that is 54 inches off the ground and faced with hard nylon. Perfect built in blocker for playing D against the "average" cross field robot.

Maybe the setback earlier this season will help us more than it hurt :rolleyes:

Wayne TenBrink 27-02-2013 00:47

Re: Extending above 60"
 
We added an extendable finger (nicknamed "the bird) to our pickup arm at the last minute as an insurance policy. We don't want to spend a lot of time playing defense, but I would hate to sit by while a tall full court shooter (or a short one with a strategically placed partner) ate our lunch.

cdogcdl 02-03-2013 11:03

Re: Extending above 60"
 
Robots like this are out there somewhere, these teams that shoot full court may even pick them just so they dont have to play against them... Let's also remember that a blocking extension could be easily added to a second pick robot, so they may not even be widely used until later on in the season. Based on what I'm seeing here at Lubbock, nearly everyone is trying to shoot, but some are better than others and after week 1 many will convert to defense, which they are already starting to do here.

Wayne TenBrink 02-03-2013 23:39

Re: Extending above 60"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayne TenBrink (Post 1240968)
We added an extendable finger (nicknamed "the bird) to our pickup arm at the last minute as an insurance policy. We don't want to spend a lot of time playing defense, but I would hate to sit by while a tall full court shooter (or a short one with a strategically placed partner) ate our lunch.

At Traverse City, there were 3 full-court shooters - two "short" and one "tall" (as defined by whether or not they could effectively be blocked by a 60" robot). On Friday, they pretty much had there way and nobody seemed interested in blocking them. Today was a different story, and by eliminations there were makeshift extensions to 60" on several robots. A 60" bot can't block a tall bot unless they get right in their face, which is difficult when there is counterdefense and invites penalties. Its easy to attach a stick or two to a robot, but its harder to make something that raises the extra 24 inches after the start of the match (I'm sure somebody will find a good way).

We got to use "the bird" twice with some success. We only physically stopped a couple of discs, but both times the shooter abandoned the feeder zone.

Kevin Leonard 04-03-2013 21:21

Re: Extending above 60"
 
See I can't see anything in the rules or the Q&A that says you can't start a match at 84 as long as your robot can go down to 60 later. Am I missing something, or is my assumption correct?

Jaxom 04-03-2013 21:39

Re: Extending above 60"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Thunder910 (Post 1243701)
See I can't see anything in the rules or the Q&A that says you can't start a match at 84 as long as your robot can go down to 60 later. Am I missing something, or is my assumption correct?

There's nothing that says you have to go to 60" later as long as you stay in your auto zone or keep touching the pyramid. We added some height to 4102 in Hub City for our match against the only full-court shooter there (2468; nice folks; we hated to do it to them :D); see the pic attached to http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...8&postcount=61

Kevin Leonard 12-03-2013 21:25

Re: Extending above 60"
 
So does the bot HAVE to be able to go back down to 60", or can it stay that high as long as it stays in it's auto zone?
I feel like I read that the bots have to have the ability to go down to 60- at least for inspection.
It shouldn't matter for our bot, but that's something that might be useful for an alliance partner at CT or Champs.
Or maybe it will matter for us- you never know ;)
EDIT: Sorry Jaxom, I didn't read your reply carefully enough.

engunneer 12-03-2013 21:33

Re: Extending above 60"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Thunder910 (Post 1247346)
So does the bot HAVE to be able to go back down to 60", or can it stay that high as long as it stays in it's auto zone?
I feel like I read that the bots have to have the ability to go down to 60- at least for inspection.
It shouldn't matter for our bot, but that's something that might be useful for an alliance partner at CT or Champs.
Or maybe it will matter for us- you never know ;)

The previous reply answers your question exactly.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaxom (Post 1243710)
There's nothing that says you have to go to 60" later as long as you stay in your auto zone or keep touching the pyramid.


geomapguy 12-03-2013 21:42

Re: Extending above 60"
 
I think a good example of trying to block shots has to 3847 against 148 in the 2nd Finals Match at Lone Star. If only their battery would've stayed in on the 1st Match.

Iaquinto.Joe 12-03-2013 22:19

Re: Extending above 60"
 
At waterford our team added a shot blocker made out of a cardboard pizza box and scrap plastic before the quarter finals and it won us a match.

techvikesmom 12-03-2013 22:38

Re: Extending above 60"
 
2054 blocked 8 shots on a tall bot in the finals at Gull Lake District.
Their attachment helped their alliance win that match!!


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