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Alpha Beta 25-02-2013 13:08

Re: Team Update 2-19 and FRC Blog - Week 0 Observations and Stop Build Day
 
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Originally Posted by JB987 (Post 1240098)
If there was a safe way for field personnel to introduce the disks during the last 30 seconds I would agree with you, Jared. I am willing to bet many teams opting for a quick ground pick up figured that they could get off two loads of disks and do a quick 10 pt hang in the final 30 seconds (with a field littered with human disks)...34 pts to help neutralize a climber. 8-10 disks flung on to the field might do the trick. Then again, week one may just reveal there is still an abundance of disks on the floor anyways and this adjustment would be a moot point, right? We are counting on your team to show the way...;)

I think there will be plenty of disks on the ground from missed shots. They will almost all be right-side up however. If humans could throw in the last 30 seconds the ground pick-up teams would encounter a lot more discs that are upside down. The rule change seems to have the biggest affect on those who invested resources into reorienting the disks, or especially those who specialized in the upside down disc. So, if you throw some in at the last minute (and I'd rather we didn't) then throwing them in upside down would make the most sense.

Gray Adams 25-02-2013 13:39

Re: Team Update 2-19 and FRC Blog - Week 0 Observations and Stop Build Day
 
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Originally Posted by CLandrum3081 (Post 1238174)
My $0.02:

I don't have time to read through all the comments. If I repeat what someone else has already said, my bad.

Several people have raised that the GDC should have seen this coming. I agree - partly for reasons already mentioned (30 seconds to throw discs and students actually throw them :rolleyes: and bad aim (let's be honest -many of us are athletes, but not as high of a proportion as on, say the ultimate Frisbee team)) - but partly for another reason.

3081 is a young team. However, even the rookies had some idea that the discs would be flying everywhere. This being my second year, I witnessed basketballs flying everywhere and hitting everything - thank heavens they were made of foam. One kid remarked shortly after the reveal, "This is sure going to make the endgame interesting if everyone's still throwing things and those things are much harder."

My point: We throw things. We throw things badly. If it hurts when these things hit us in gym class, we shouldn't have dozens of these things flying around in a very short frame of time.

Am I disappointed? Well, not really by the rule change, but in the GDC's failure to recognize this beforehand. I would have preferred some arbitrary last-minute bumper rule over this. Perhaps the GDC should make safety a priority BEFORE bag and tag day. ::ouch:: At least they did it before week 2, and at least they did it at some point. I would rather be angry about this rule change than angry about an injured teammate or volunteer.

That was longer than I expected. Sorry :o

If you were wrong though, as many, many game predictions made during kickoff are, there are no consequences and nobody makes a big fuss. Its easy to look back when your prediction is confirmed and say how clear it was right from the start that this was going to happen, but I'm very surprised at the number of people claiming they knew with absolute certainty how a big part of this game would play out.


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