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The way you guys do integration is exhibit A of modern technological advancement. I would love to be a part of that team and/or just watch it work. Your lead is my hero and I'm sure they can't wait to put one of these together each year. I've been under the assumption government systems would prohibit this kind of efficiency and effectiveness. But if this is NASA's team uninhibited I'm a big believer in you guys. Rock on, and go NASA peeps!
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Oh, also, I didn't notice if it picked up an upside down frisbee, and shot it upside down. Can it do that (or flip the frisbees it picks up) too?
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Awesome robot and an even better video. Thank you for continuing to inspire us all. |
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I had to watch the video again and I love the wheel on how you climb up.
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Epic Video. Perhaps the best all around robot I have ever seen in my years in FIRST. Funny I actually thought about using this song in our reveal video a few months ago.
That is so cool how the hopper moves up from the intake to the shooter as seen at 0:23 in the video. |
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Mind = Blown
Hopefully, we'll get the opportunity to see that fine machine close up at championships this year. If so, it will be an honor to go toe-to-toe with this unicorn...or, better yet, fight along side it. Now, that would truly be an honor. Best of luck, guys...although, it doesn't seem like you're gonna need it. ;) |
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THE ROBOT GODS HAVE SPOKEN AND DELIVERED US PERFECTION. (Side note: WE ARE NOT WORTHY, WE ARE NOT WORTHY! *insert bowing action and hero worship*)
But seriously, I am starting to regret not refereeing at Lone Star now. Great robot. :D |
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Please approve this video for mobile devices so I can see it from my phone. I won't be able to get to a computer for a while. I'm begging here
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Another great robot from 118. Curious why they didn't include actual evidence of a 30 pt climb. Do their outriggers actually allow enough upward penetration at the top to let them raise high enough to clear totally into the top zone? Scene at 2:05 + still shows a 20 pt climb.
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:ahh: Fantastic robot, as always.
I think I'll go do my taxes now. |
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The climbing mechanism on this robot is ingenious.
I cannot believe all of that actuation fits in that robot... |
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Honestly the best designed robot I've seen in FIRST. And the mechanism shown here https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...9bZ4fk#t=33 s
What is it..? |
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I'm pretty sure a 2:41 it's a 30 pt climb. You can see the robot bump out as the notched wheel clears the 2nd bar. I'm curious to know what the full climb time is. I'm not sure, but it looks like some refinement could make it go even faster!
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This matches 1717 2012 and 254 2011 for amazing awesomeness. How are you aiming? Computer vision? Preset positions? Something else?
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How did you get the addressable LED light strips running?
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This...
Im quitting FIRST now. This is awesome. 118, you are by far one of my favorite teams. There's only a few things I see it doesn't do, neither of which are very big: 1. Dump frisbees (Who cares though when you can probably get a easy shot into the pyramid, though you never showed this in the video) 2. Pick up and shoot upside down disks (Though I don't see this is going to happen much.) 3. Have a fan or other mechanism to block shots This looks like a bot that would be a dream to drive when it works, and a nightmare to compete against or try and repair. (Or wire) I would say good luck, but I don't think it would do you any help whatsoever. |
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The thing that impresses me most about 118's robots is how feature-dense they are. While we come up with ideas and look for a subset of them we are confident we can make work, it seems like they manage to pack in everything each year. I'd love to get a closer look at how a machine like this gets designed.
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And the winner of the 2013 FRC Nationals is....
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![]() Definitely one of the best reveal videos I've seen a long time. The aerial shots and bonus footage at the end (as always) were a treat. Another prime example of a highly competitive robot from 118. Can't wait to see it in person at Lonestar. |
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Definitely a robot that's capable of going. it's not going to be easy to beat them, but anything is possible if there's a field as deep as SVR. |
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Great looking robot. SVR should be fun.
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I guess I'd like to see a bill of materials. If you had to build this robot in the real world it would cost a lot more than $4K. IMHO it's about time FRC started leveling the playing field for teams that don't have a NASA facility to build the robot for them.
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Simply Beautiful.
So many features packed into such a small space, and amazing reveal footage. Great work! |
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Also why bring down a great robot if you are worse than it, I feel better if I am worse than a totally amazing robot; calling it anything less than that just simply brings you down and does not do anyone any good. its pointless and self-defeating to focus on how bad the great robots are when you would be better off focusing on what makes your robot good and and aspiring to become great. |
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FIRST encourages teams to partner with companies and individuals to spread FIRST and elevate the quality of robots and level of play. If you disagree with this, feel free to find one of the dozens of threads about "FRC team philosophy" and take your side... this thread isn't the right place. |
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$4000 now looks like a lot doesnt it? A great usage of KOP items imo.... I would like to add that 118s robot is probably cheaper than our bot and we had a build budget of only $2000 + KOP parts/electronics... |
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Even if we ignore man power and consider the machines used, I'd say that you'd still be hard pressed to find a machine that didn't have more than $4,000 in billable machine use/time. (Seems like even smaller/newer teams have a minimum of $2k-3k in tools) |
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Props to 118. I've followed their robots over the years, this is the most impressive one I've seen to date. However, I'm predicting there will be robots that can match it. I'll be watching the webcasts intently. |
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I don't care who built this robot, It's still amazing and should be an inspiration to us all.
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My cousin lives minutes from the Robonauts in Texas and I'm urging her to do whatever it takes to join this team in high school.
118 packs more inspiration into one video than practically anyone else. |
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wow!!!! you guys are going to be awesome!!!!
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We did our own WCD this year. Since we did it ourselves from stock components (except the gearboxes, wheels & sprockets) it costs less than the kit bot drive train. |
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All I can say is wow! We've learned to anticipate 118's reveals and it definitely did not disappoint once again. Seemingly effortless full-court shooting, shooting from anywhere on the field, climbing, floor pickup, picking up 2 side-by-side discs, it seems to do almost everything extremely well. WOW!
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I know getting my electrical/biometric/computer engineering degree is important and all, and so is employment, but can I apply for a "mentor" position where I really just watch you guys work and try to keep my brain in solid form? |
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118 does amazing reveal videos every year, it's clear they have a phenomenal media team. It would be really interesting if they did a full documentary style video of their build season. I suspect a lot of people (myself included) would love to watch a feature length documentary on the 118 build process.... Of course, maybe that would involve giving away too many trade secrets :rolleyes: |
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And of course they chose not to reveal it during premier night.
118 you have exceeded all expectations. |
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I'm curious, Justin, how many RC helicopters do you guys have to budget for this year? :rolleyes:
Still watched this all morning today between classes. 1) I can't get enough of the bot, 2) brilliantly produced video, 3) I really just wanted to hear Can't Hold Us all day haha. |
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One thing that makes FIRST powerful is how we, coming from a community team that works out of a garage with limited resources, have learned so much, have become so inspired, that we know that we can build a robot that can be as successful and excellent as any of the Robonauts' golden robots. Without teams like them, we wouldn't see the potential we have to be excellent! And after spending countless hours buildinng, designing, and outreaching with my teammates, I still wouldn't mind losing to a team like this at all: every endeavor we make benefits our skills, and whenever we become better we inspire others as well. Kudos, Robonauts!
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Robonauts are a national treasure. Apex is a work of art. It should be in a museum. Immediately.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhHONpmlxPc Your logic is like saying Michael Jordan was a great basketball player because of the shoes. He was the best before & after those shoes. Those students that you just discounted with your comment; they worked tirelessly & in seamless collaboration with mentors/sponsors/their community to push the envelope in exceeding the images of extravagant gameplay that FIRST hoped to cultivate within its students. They would probably still be doing this even with the simplest of equipment. I had the pleasure of attending a Week 0 event locally as a referee & as a member of GeorgiaFIRST. While walking around, I found a robot that looked simply amazing. 4 cylinder shooter, ridiculously exceptional drive train, and an ingenious corkscrew system to adjust their shooting & Frisbee loading. It was something to look at. Wish I had a picture to put here. When I asked about their materials to create these amazing things, you know what they told me majority of their materials came from? Their local junkyard. They have the drive, and they have the ingenuity to create something with the simplest of materials and absence of things my old team would consider to be a given right, and they created something I expect to see in the elimination rounds at Peachtree. The Robonauts are the best because they do the things that are hard, and they have reached and surpassed the point in their collective walk in where they are stepping outside their previous comfort zones, and endeavor to do greater things than others have ever thought or attempted to do. That's the secret to their robot; not the money or the access, but the individual heart and spirit in everyone that steps inside that workshop to go big, and become the best. To finish my annoyance with your statement, here's a quote from President Kennedy that a mentor from another team showed me when I was writing a speech for the Peachtree Regional (and it fits with this team): “We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard, because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one which we intend to win, and the others, too.” Again, great robot, great students and mentors; and overall, great team. Makes me proud to know one of the alumni from my alma mater assists as a mentor in this amazing collaborative. End of rant. |
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How are you guys able to alter the spin of the disc. In some shots, the disc veers hard left, while some veer hard right (and everywhere in between).
Now if I am not mistaken, it looks like the entire top half of the robot can slide up and down (0:49). Is there any particular reason for this? Beautiful robot! Good luck and we'll see you at competition. |
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At some points it looks like you guys pickup/hold/shoot more than 4 discs (0:18). Is this just because you can or was there a specific design choice to hold more than 4 discs?
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I bet if anyone took a look at the 118's Bill of Materials the only thing that would be on there is hard work and that's priceless.
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This robot is an amazing feat of engineering. The robots 118 builds are only the visual product of what must be an extraordinary program of learning and inspiration, for students and mentors. EVEN IF it was entirely developed by professional engineers, I would still be amazed. Creating such an intricate machine in six weeks is awesome.
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All I can say is that I'd love to attend The 118 School of Project Management and Design. And that I am inspired by their work. |
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Great machine, I hope to see it in person at some point this season. -Clinton- |
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Go back to Hogwarts. Haha best robot I've seen all year, by far! Can't wait to watch you compete... at EINSTEIN :cool:
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It's a shame you are not going to San Antonio this year :(
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Why aren't you guys coming to CT again?!?
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Here are some reactions from some of our team members this morning:
Oh my god! How did they keep this under 120 pounds? I like the lights! That robot is legit. We're done for. Why can't I be on 118? (and my personal favourite) That poor helicopter!!! Seriously. Legit. Robot. I am in love with it!!! Good luck to you guys this year! |
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You guys are truly an inspiration.
I'll make sure to drop by at SVR! |
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I do not know if someone has brought this up before, but I love the way that you have "passed the torch" from the past years robot to the current years in each of your last two robots unavailing videos.
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Alright. This is how I can sum up what I see.
Every team builds a robot. Most of them complete one or a number of the prescribed game challenges. Many of them are competitively successful to some degree. Few of them dominate the competition with nearly every potential ability. And only one always does what 118 always does. Congratulations Team 118 on finishing another build season, creating another phenomenal robot, and earning another impressed spectator. If we get back to IRI, I will probably be spending all my free time before quals start in your pit again. |
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Whoa. 6 weeks!!
I'm filled with emotion from watching the video! 99% inspired and awestricken, and maybe 1% depressed. There are certainly teams (118 clearly included) that are in a league of their own. The CAD, modeling and rapid prototyping to pull off a package like this is a testament to rock solid system engineering practices, planning and a ton of hard work. Yes teams get to compete side by side, regardless of their experience and resources (there's the inspiring and depressing :) ). Sometimes I feel like there should be levels for competing, or handicap scores, but that's not the real world [and a well traveled CD topic already...]. In the real world you have to compete regardless of the caliber of your competition or you won't even make it out the door. So congrats to 118 for blowing my mind, and all the teams out there for working hard and doing the best you can with what you have! |
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Awesome. An Inspiration to All Teams. Great Machine.
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My guess for sometime this season but likely during their very first regional: Their "auto goal" points from one match will be greater than the average regional total for the majority of FRC teams. From that video I see no reason why they couldn't score at least 60 "auto goal" points in a given match. :eek: |
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After six weeks of busting our butts to build the best machine we could, I remember what it would feel like to sit down and watch a 118 reveal video.
While I don't have the six weeks of butt-busting any more, these machines and the videos are no less awesome. It's teams like this that make FRC "the big league" of high school robotics. Well done 118... well done again! Jason |
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Is one of your wheels randomly not in contact with the ground at 0:37? It's on the back and the far side from the camera, i'm just curious as to why that would be. |
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This is a beautiful bot! Does she have a name?
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Why didn't I think of that?
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Hypothetically, if FIRST concocted some ridiculous rule to limit the capital resources of teams, 118 would STILL dominate because (obviously) they are willing to spend an enormous amount of time prototyping, designing, and building an incredible robot. I for one am completely content NOT spending that much time building a robot. If a group of people are crazy enough to dedicate this much time to an after-school project, then I say let 'em, and give them some awards too so they keep doing it! Besides, we're just as likely to play with them as against them in quals. This robot is an unbelievable triumph of creativity, engineering, and teamwork. 'nuf said |
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Rather than try to tear them down, why don't you talk to the team and see what YOU can do to try to bring yourselves up to their level?! Every time I hear 'FIRST should level the playing field', what people are usually saying is 'FIRST should bring the playing field down to me, so I don't have to work harder to achieve the level of success someone else has.' Pull yourselves up, don't tear others down. It's much better for everyone that way. What's truly sad is that people on your team who don't feel this way are probably going to get negative messages just for having the same number on their profile. Because that's the way the world works. General Disclaimer to CD: Your comments are going to reflect on other people, and that's unfair to your teammates. I hope the backlash from this makes people think about what they say & how it comes across. They say you should never go to bed angry... too bad I logged onto Chief when I did. I'm honestly pretty disappointed in this forum lately. There are gems, but then there are things like this. 118, you have a beautiful robot and I can't wait to see it in action. Don't let the haters drag you down. |
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I think you guys really missed the opportunity to steal lines from another great Macklemore track. A seriously beautiful machine, can't wait to watch it playing on the field.
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Oh, and that was a pretty cool robot too. |
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Other than the reveal video, are there specs you would care to release? (Things that you can't tell from the video or wouldn't be able to tell without seeing your robot in the pits or on a field).
Was there space for a shifting transmission, what are the reductions / top speeds? How fast can you climb the pyramid outside a controlled setting? And most importantly, have you tested to find the limit to your shooter's range? :D |
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