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ENeyman 26-02-2013 15:44

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Originally Posted by Akash Rastogi (Post 1240626)
Emmett, Taylor is correct here. While you don't have much space left on the front, it is easy to get double sided sheets printed. If you move pit scouting to the back of the sheet, you can allow more space for alliance partners/opponents for each match.

The reason to do this is to check quickly without the match schedule, which strong/weak teams the team being scouted played with/against. This allows you to figure out if results from a given match are due to strong defensive bots, floor loaders stealing discs, etc..

Good point, I totally missed that! Thanks Taylor! Akash, good point about moving pit scouting to the back. We might also move the field drawing to the back too, giving more space for notes. We can also use the extra space on the front to increase the sizes of some of the boxes, giving more space for tallies, as Mike suggested.

Bill_B 26-02-2013 16:14

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I'm sure sharing the source excel file will also be appreciated. My team will see your work so far. I hope it ignites their interest in scouting.

ENeyman 26-02-2013 16:22

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Originally Posted by Bill_B (Post 1240739)
I'm sure sharing the source excel file will also be appreciated. My team will see your work so far. I hope it ignites their interest in scouting.

After we update it with the previously mentioned corrections, I will upload the Excel file.

I'm really glad that this sheet was received so well by the community. As a second year team, scouting was not a priority last year, but we're hoping to make it better this year.

IKE 26-02-2013 17:58

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This was our 2012 sheet:
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2700

2011:
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2589

and 2010:
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2370

If you go through 2010 through 2012, you can see the evolution of what our scouts like.

I really like the way your sheet is organized. With the values for a given qualifier in a clumn, it should be easy to pick out increasing trends. I think it also looks a lot easier to compile at a glance than the sheets we have been using.

Our scouting sheets are primarily to support alliance selection and to correlate some calculated parameters we track. We have another scout doing "match scouting" which is where we specifically target partners and opponents and the behaviours they can offer.

Overall, I really like your sheet and will ahve my scouts check it out. I love the 1 sheet/team pencil paper method and have found it very effective. Beware in alliance selection that you don't accidentally loose a sheet. Make sure you have a couple of team lists to cross reference.

Jaxom 26-02-2013 18:42

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Originally Posted by ENeyman (Post 1240725)
Good point, I totally missed that! Thanks Taylor! Akash, good point about moving pit scouting to the back. We might also move the field drawing to the back too, giving more space for notes. We can also use the extra space on the front to increase the sizes of some of the boxes, giving more space for tallies, as Mike suggested.

If you expect to write on that field diagram during the match you'll probably be better off keeping it on the front. Back-n-forth page flipping will complicate your scouts' job.

ENeyman 26-02-2013 19:18

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Originally Posted by Jaxom (Post 1240804)
If you expect to write on that field diagram during the match you'll probably be better off keeping it on the front. Back-n-forth page flipping will complicate your scouts' job.

That's a good point. Our line of thought was that we would mark their general shooting position at the end of the match, not every shot they take. For instance, do they primarily shoot from behind the pyramid, under the pyramid, the feeder station, etc.?

omegasis25 27-02-2013 15:35

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Originally Posted by ENeyman (Post 1240742)
After we update it with the previously mentioned corrections, I will upload the Excel file.

I'm really glad that this sheet was received so well by the community. As a second year team, scouting was not a priority last year, but we're hoping to make it better this year.

Hello everyone, I'm the original creator of the sheet, here is an updated sheet, for excel, i have also included a PDF version for convenience.

Bill_B 16-03-2013 00:59

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Thanks for your source document. Naturally it has been hacked a bit. I had to do that for open office sanity. Font changes and some formatting streamlines made. Here's a page preview capture. Note the addition of space for the scouters' names. One sheet per team is the plan. I may make a workbook which has all of the CT regional teams in it. Fingers crossed that there will be enough interest among the team members to use this (or something) effectively.

IKE 16-03-2013 06:16

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The more I looked at it, the more I liked it. The kids and I used it as a template and modified it to our likings. Thanks for posting.

alex.lew 24-03-2013 16:19

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We've always used a paper system. This sheet was a great base (with some changes) for our scouts at bayou regional. It really shows a team's progress throughout the tournament. Thanks for posting the scout sheet!

Akash Rastogi 24-03-2013 18:28

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We were just discussing this today at Mt. Olive and Chris Pham and Emmett are very happy that these were well made and were used by some top teams. These two are slowly perfecting 3929's scouting system.

runneals 03-04-2013 21:10

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Here are our cards based off of yours :) Read more about how accurate they worked (SUPER accurate) for us down in KC!

MichaelBick 03-04-2013 21:28

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Team 1836 used your scouting sheet for the LA regional, and we liked it a lot. As we have never data scouted before, it was a very easy and problem free way to get started. Thank you so much for sharing these sheets with us.

arbym 03-04-2013 22:00

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Great Scouting sheet. We have incorporated many of your same attributes into a web-based tablet application. This gives our drive team real-time statistics for strategy planning. We are heading to St. Louis and our intent is to scout all 4 divisions. We would love to share our application with anyone that will help with a little manpower scouting.

Akash Rastogi 03-04-2013 22:07

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Cool to see how many teams used this. Great work Emmett and Chris! :)


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