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Hi,
I wanted to start this thread to have a place to post the Highest score you have seen.

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And here we go again...official matches haven't even started playing yet...

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So 0-0 then? In some contexts, that is equal to infinity... So who will beat that score?

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91 in practice at FLR if that counts!

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Practices matches don't count. Because a lot of teams give their drivers practice and one technique is for the human player to throw discs the entire match, which awards foul points to the other team, resulting in many scores well over 100.

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129 in match 9 at Palmetto. Didn't see most of the match but it looks like there were 26 points in fouls?

I expect to see some pretty high scoring matches during elims this weekend.

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176 in match 5 at BAE. Mostly in foul points.

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Does anyone know what those 106 penalty points were for?

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From what i saw, it was for hitting a robot in contact with the pyramid.(multiple times)

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146 in match 12 of BAE by 230, 610 and 1922. 126 disc points, 20 climb points and no foul points.

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610 is killing it at BAE.

Match 12 they put up 146 with 230 and 1922. No foul points and only 20 from climb. Insane tele-op scoring by 610.

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Just saw 146 at BAE. 126 in Disc Points. 610 was screaming back and forth laying down 4-disc volleys from the back of the pyramid. Gives me hope in our human loading only robot if we get the driving as quick and smooth as theirs.

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Has anyone seen a successful full court shooter in a qualification match?

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With the exception of the #11/#4451 alliance that put up over 100 points without the penalties, there's yet to be anything over 50 or so at Palmetto. Everyone better be looking out for the rookie team 4451.

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Just saw someone shooting full field at FLR. They were hitting maybe 1/5 3s. Lots too high or too low, and some of the ones that were on target bounced out anyways. It'll be interesting to see if other full courts have better luck.

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The official score went up as 161 pts :ahh:

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team 610 is scary. :eek:

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My thoughts when watching 610: If 610 is this good... how beastly will 1114/2056 be next week?

Historically speaking, 1114 and 2056 are both 60%-70% stronger than 610, using OPR as your yardstick.

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That was 3173 IgKnighters out of Rochester.

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Well, considering 610 can't hang for more than 10 points and doesn't have a ground pick-up (which limits their autonomous scoring), you have two areas for potential improvement from 1114/2056 right there. Just imagine if 610 was scoring 42 points in auton and hanging for 30 at the end...

:eek:

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I wont be surprised if 610 has a working 30pt climber week 4 in Waterloo. Remember, they've got a power takeoff they're not using right now.

EDIT: Also, 2056 at least has said on CD that they're not climbing. I'll believe it when I see it.

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From my analytics file, here are the best scores by how they scored it

Best Auton:
Rochester Q12 - 191 3838 145 auton for 48

Best Climb:
BAE Granite State Q18 - 175 213 1277 climb for 60

Best Teleop:
BAE Granite State Q12 - 230 610 1922 Teleop for 90

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They said that they were not "hanging" not that they weren't climbing.

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762 at flr at the end of autonomous at q27 by the blue alliance

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Yep, real time scoring needs a bit of work.

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Yep
(Final was 42 Blue, Red 32)

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Stop to think of it, I wonder if that 762 was a chain falling down onto the sensor?

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I'm pretty doubtful a chain weighs as much as ~254 frisbees..

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762 / 6 = ~127 frisbees (auto, remember). 180g * 127 = 22,860g, or nearly 23kg ~= 46.6lbs... yeah, you're right.

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More likely the bottom of the goal, i.e. the scale, got stuck somehow.

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Out of curiosity: What is the average score of the matches so far? How many points would you assume a team needs to get to move on to elims in an average regional?

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Average scores so far:

• BAE: 54
• FLR: 43
• Traverse: 38
• Kettering: 38
• Palmeto: 36
• Hub City: 32

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Does that include practice matches?

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Sounds like a strong autonomous (18pts) plus a 30 point summit sans dump would win you a majority of your matches. On a different note, a 7 disc autonomous would win you the match before you even touch the controls...

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But if those averages include practices they are not a true indicator of scores. I know we personally will not be scoring as much during practices as we will be taking it slower due to no practice for our drivers this year...and we also need to get our autonomous set up :ahh:

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Those are real honest to goodness matches.

Practice matches don't really have scores.
Refs practice giving red cards and fouls.
Refs aren't there to score climbs or assess real fouls.
Teams climb the wrong pyramid so they can see better how their mechanisms are working.
Most teams don't even show up to practice matches until the afternoon.

And most of all FIRST doesn't bother publishing practice match scores, only real scores.

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Given the data that Mark McLeod usually posts, I wouldn't have expected him to include practice matches. His data is always spot on accurate, and never includes "fluffy data."

I'm curious, Mark, do you know what the score is right now that would put a team into the 90th percentile? IE the minimum score per match that would almost guarantee you walk away undefeated?

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We had a few initial hiccups, but now we are up at about 60% a match with defense. You probably stopped watching but we had 57 disk points by ourselves in one match later that day.

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Wouldn't that just be 2 standard deviations above the mean, assuming a normal distribution of scores?

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2 Standard deviations would be ~98%, but assuming a FIRST game has normally distributed alliances is a dangerous game. :eek: (although this year is actually not bad!)

From the actual distribution:

1% 0
5% 3
10% 10
25% 21
50% 37
75% 59
90% 77
95% 88
99% 129

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True (68 95 99.7 rule wohoo AP Stat), but I get the sense the data is slightly, or more, right skewed, especially reviewing the data posted by TwentyFour.

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Yeah... I always remember 3 deviations is 99.7, because I keep looking it up when I run into 6 standard deviations worth of good or bad luck at the casino.

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177 at FLR, but with 103 foul points.

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11, 245, and 2187 put up 156 in their last semi finals match
Breakdown:
30 climb
0 foul
48 auton
78 tele-op

They put up a 166 with 20 in fouls in Finals 1
Breakdown:
30 climb
20 foul
36 auton
80 tele-op

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Why don't we all just wait until the end of an event to post the highest score from each event? This thread already has 40+ posts and week 1 events haven't even been finished. I usually stop reading these threads because they get to be really long and full of irrelevant information.

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New high score is from finals match 2 in Traverse City District. Set by 1918, 2474, and 4835. There were 94 match points, 10 points from hanging, and 80 foul points. Total of 184 points, and they won 184-90!

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This is the highest score I have seen without fouls. Have there been any higher?

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/img...0bdccac6_l.jpg

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177 at FLR, with 103 fouls. 5 technical fouls and 1 regular foul.

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I mean without fouls. What is the current high score, without fouls? Does anyone know?

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I don't think so. Without fouls is much harder to look up than total score, which is about all that would be available now.

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840 was a full court shooter at CVR. Their alliance won the finals. Once they got their shooter lined up, it was all over for the opposition. They could pump frisbees out as fast as the human player could load them. One time, the 3 point goal got so full that frisbees piled up to the top of the lip and at least one fell out because of that. It was a wonder to behold as one frisbee after another sailed into the 3 point goal. They had scores as high as 147 with over 100 of them frisbee scores.
It seems to me that full court shooters are vulnerable to a shot blocker. The other alliance slapped one on one of their robots, but couldn't use it very effectively.

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I remember a 150 vs. 120 match at Hatboro with Daisy's alliance beating MOE's.

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We were on the losing end of that 146 score at GSR! Even so our alliance got 123 points. 123 points and still lost!

I credit team 610 with a truly fine robot. It is going to influence our thinking for years to come! Good job guys. It was a pleasure.

Yes, our losing alliance did have a full court shooter that made shot after shot when it was properly tuned - team 1519. They accounted for lots of those 123 points.

Interestingly, the winning alliance at GSR did not have a 30 point hang.

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Unless they manage to shoot at a very steep angle, I feel that full court shooters will very frequently get blocked throughout the weeks to come. Our opposing alliance's (4135, to be specific) sign worked rather well unless we went over and pushed them away, so it kind of requires two robots to shoot full court, in a way. However, a full court shooter plus a defender can still be superior to two normal shooters, I think we clocked 840's shoot speed as about 100 points in 40 seconds, and two robots putting up 50 points each in the same time frame is no easy feat.

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Yeah, highest at HH was in Semifinals, Nemesis' alliance (2590, 341, 3123) vs. our alliance (365, 103, 2559), 150-120 with no fouls. They had 2 level 1 climbers, we had 1.

Interestingly the match still had a lot of defense (both 3123 and 2559 were playing full-on defensive) but there continued to be an incredible number of disks scored.

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The highest no foul score I can confirm is 158 points by the #1 seed at GSR Finals:

610, 230 and 1922 in Match 12 was tweeted at 146 points and then corrected to 161 points when it was posted to FIRST. The FMS tweet indicated no fouls, but there's no way to know if the adjustment to 161 points included fouls or not because the FIRST website does not keep a record...

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That match was simply fantastic to watch, and it is an encouraging indicator for what this game will look like as teams continue to work out their kinks and higher level strategies start to emerge. Had neither alliance played defense, we may have seen both alliances break 170.

Is this currently the highest combined match score? Highest without fouls?

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Highest combined I believe is BAE SF1-2 157-123, but it had 12 combined foul points, so it is not the highest sans fouls.

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Yes, we too (with you and 1519) were on that alliance, highest total score for the finals I believe, and we still lost! :o Great game though!

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New high score at San Diego! 2829 - 2627! (No, those are not team numbers) ;)

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140 in the finals at Palmetto

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189-2
https://www.dropbox.com/s/uroei59drh...gh%20score.png

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Simbotics, OP Robotics, and Inverse Paradox just posted a score of 191-20!

http://www.watchfirstnow.com/archive.php?id=61426117

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Matches like this scare me. Can you imagine having a third robot scoring like this on that alliance?

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They'd probably run out of discs :)

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That would be a sight to see.

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172-46 at Waterford. Win for alliance #1 (1718/33/4779)

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In Semi 1-1 at GTR-E, 2056, 1114, and 1325 broke 200:

200-74

EDIT: Note this was with two technical fouls.

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Simbotics, OP Robotics, and Inverse Paradox once again broke the record with a score of 200-74. It would have been more, but Simbotics didn't hang because they were off center.

http://www.watchfirstnow.com/archive.php?id=61428426

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2056, 1114, and 1325 just scored 200 points in GTR East.

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They just posted 200-74 (with 40 points of fouls)

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Broke it again! 204-74!

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204.... No penalties
By the eh team.

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1114, 2056, and 1325 204 with no foul points!!!!!!

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Actually, 211 according to FIRST's site.

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1114 tweeted that it changed to 211.

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All I can say is amazing! Can't wait till Championships scores!

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If an alliance wins say the Hub city regional and are elligible for nationals, can they still compete in other regionals? Even though they are already eligible for nationals?

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*Championships. Sorta the wrong place to put this, but I'll answer. Team are allowed to compete at as many regionals as their budget and time may allow, regardless of eligibility to Championships.

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Yea. In fact, there have been quite a few teams in the past that have participated in 2 or more regional events and have won all of them. For example: 2056 every year they've existed.

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Thank you for replying

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204 put up by 987-254-1138

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Does anyone have a vid of 987s 204 pnt win ?

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There is an archive on Justin.tv

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That said, this year, if a team has already qualified, they will create a "wild card" spot that will go to the next team in line at the regional. For example if 1114 and 2056 win Waterloo, the alliance captain and first pick of the finalist alliance will qualify for Champs. Source.

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Waterford FIRST Robotics District Competition 2013
Semi-Finals 1-1
Highest score: 172

Red Alliance: 172
1718, 4779, 33

Blue Alliance: 46
548, 2612, 2960

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It's pretty interesting to note that, since 610, 781, 1114, 1241, 2056 and 2809 all qualify for champs, that there's a good chance that the wild card might just end up as an empty slot.

Now that I see all of these teams here, I realize that this wild card thing is going to be pretty interesting to watch, especially at GTR/W when more teams in Canada will get a shot at it.

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Well, 2 wildcard slots will be created (assuming 1114/2056 win as #1 alliance), and likely #2 alliances that would be favorites for Finalist might be like 610/1241 or 610/3683. The wildcard passes down to the Finalist 2nd pick if the Captain/1st pick are already qualified too, so its possible 1 of the wildcards would go unused (in the 610/1241 case) but unlikely that both would go unused.

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Do you have a link?

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Waterloo Q-28 Blue alliance (2056, 1114, 1846) Wins 277 to 81.

Auto = 48
Teleop = 90
Cimb = 50
Foul = 89

What is the high score without fouls?

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Far as I know, 211 by 1114/2056/1325 at GTREast.

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Waterloo Q41:

1241/1334/1114 wins over 1305/2702/1310
151-134
NO FOULS.

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The beauty about this match was that, although it would have been 188 (brrr) without the foul points, the fouls incurred would have also prevented 1114 from losing the time they needed to fill the gap to get 10 points in climbing and 20 points from their dump at the top of the pyramid.

So, really, it should have been 218 without fouls, still setting a new record. I guess the world will have to do with 277 for now

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Match 66 at TCNJ District Event with the highest score at the event of 168. Teams 2590, 103 and 1370. 138 disc points and 30 hanging points, no fouls.

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Waterloo: 243–50, no foul points (QF1-2: 1114, 2056 & 4069 vs. 3571, 4152 & 2200)

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Teams 2145, 573, and 33 in qualification match 7 at the Grand Blanc District:181

20 Climb Points
0 Foul Points
58 Autonomous Points
103 Tele-op Points

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Can anyone fill in/confirm (prior to Week 5 events)

Highest Auto Score: ?
Highest Teleop Score: ?
Highest (Alliance) Climb Score: ?
Highest Qual Score (w/out Fouls): 181?
Highest Score: 277

[I was trying to find where someone has posted a spreadsheet of all of the fms feed scores, but I couldn't dig it up quickly]

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I gave you the alliance CP.

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Prior to Week 5

Highest Auto Score: 84

• UTWV Q 73 (359, 3239, 1332)

Highest Teleop Score: 137

• ONWA E 5 (1114, 2056, 4069)

Highest Alliance Climb Score: 70 (not sure which/how many granted by fouls)

• NHMA Q 63 (1277, 885, 131)
• NCRE E 8 (3169, 3319, 2642)
• WIMI Q 55 (1259, 2481, 4131)

Highest Qual Score (w/out Fouls): 193

• ONWA Q 22 (3683, 1114, 772)

Highest Score: 277

• ONWA Q 28 (2056, 1114, 1846)

Disclaimer: This is based on the @frcfms twitter feed. The feed is not always right.